Drew Dowdell

What do you have against diesel style low end torque?

No, the 2.5 is not the mild hybrid version. It's the basic 2.5 from the Acadia. I like that RS and Premier get the advanced AWD with Twin Clutch. That means they could, should they want to, build a TrailBlazer (Think Colorado TrailBoss) version credibly. After sleeping on it. I do think I really like it.

All of the GMs and the RAM could move production to the US. The cheap ones will probably just get cancelled. The ct6 plug in could be built here, they just sell most of them in China.

Well there you go @regfootball , the sporty GM crossover you were asking for. Me? I kinda like it, and I’m just glad there is the 3.6 liter instead of the 2.0T from the Traverse. Good tie in to Camaro too, I wonder if there is actually any parts sharing there or just in appearance.

We don't pay tariffs to other countries for items exported from the US. The customers in those countries pay the tariff. We pay very few tariffs in this country and the ones we do pay are quite low unless you're trying to buy a truck from Germany...

The C70 had a diesel in EU. But yes, I'm sure somewhere in history there was a Volvo without a diesel engine. Perhaps its the first Volvo without a diesel since Chinese ownership? Something I've had to learn at work recently. Don't assume malicious intent.

Pricey

Updated.... but again, the off-road options on the Overland are optional Top-O-The-Line is the Summit that has all of everything and can top out at $63k with a diesel. The Trackhawks and SRTs are above that, but they're not really offroaders like the Trailhawk, Summit, and Overland are.

The 2.7T with electrification would be more than enough to move an Escalade around. A 3.0TT in an escalade would be too much in a country where gas is already over $4 a gallon. I got 27mpg out of it in a CT6, but an Escalade couldn't count on that.

LOL you're nutz! I don't think there is anything a Trailhawk can do that an appropriately equipped Overland cannot.

Back away from the politics.

This looks fantastic! Just visually, I would probably pick this over any of the competition.

Overland package is more $$$. That's the reason I started looking at this. I get the off-road suspension and 4x4, plus the tow package, plus heated and cooled seats (albert's request), for less money than the same config in an overland.

The Renegade Trailhawk is actually surprisingly capable. I think the issue people have with the JGC Trailhawk is that it is no more capable than an Overland with the active suspension and the upper level 4x4 system (which both come standard on Trailhawk) This one I have pictured is $32k and 17k miles for a '17

What do y'all think of the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk? Cool ride or posermobile?

You keep moving those goalposts, that's what you're good at. Two posts ago I suggested they use the new 2.7 liter, so it would be below the 3.0 gas tax level. Your suggestion was that they use the 2.0T. I'm sure your very next complaint was that a Chinese Escalade only had a 2.0T while the GLS has a 2.998 liter.

Not that far. Late Jan 2018 is when Trump announced the opening salvos in the trade war.... that is, actually announcing tariffs. I know because I watched the stock market drop.

I like the E-Class, but the CT6 is way more handsome of a vehicle. When you see those lightsaber fangs coming at you, it really grabs your attention. It's an Escalade. Luxury comes at a price.

This was decided back in April

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I've had it done. nothing to be afraid of. you're knocked out the whole time. It is largely due to the American diet. They don't follow this recommendation in countries that have better balanced diets.

And China just lowered the tariff to import cars into the country too...

They already have Nautilus.

They have the new 2.7T

Yes, the 2.0 is gone, but that won't effect sales since no one was buying it or even stocking it. Don't expect a price drop for the 3.6 except that there will be a RWD 3.6 available, so an option delete credit there. I'm wondering if the 2.0t will continue in China though.