Drew Dowdell

shame they couldn't do this in 2009.

I'm betting the gearing of the 8-speed has more to do with it than anything. I didn't side step your question. I'm not sure what kind of fuel economy you're expecting a 3800lb car with 430 ft-lb of torque to get.... I'm betting the gearing of the 8-speed has more to do with it than anything. I didn't side step your question. I'm not sure what kind of fuel economy you're expecting a 3800lb car with 430 ft-lb of torque to get.... I expect it to be notably better than a Zeta Camaro. It will have noticeably better power delivery due to having lots of torque at lower rpm and more torque available while providing slightly better fuel economy. More power + lower RPM + slightly better fuel economy + beating the Germans on power and mpg = a big advancement. It's a 3.6 liter that is putting out more twist than a 6.2 liter and getting better fuel economy to boot.

I'm betting the gearing of the 8-speed has more to do with it than anything. I didn't side step your question. I'm not sure what kind of fuel economy you're expecting a 3800lb car with 430 ft-lb of torque to get....

It's a Cadillac. I expect them to beat the power output of BMW and Audi while also providing better fuel economy numbers than BMW/Audi/MB. If these announced numbers hold up, then they've done that. I don't think a 5.3 V8 would have been able to out power the crew from Deutschland and then the meme of "Cadillac's V8 can't even out power the V6 turbos from the Germans" would have popped up. Cadillac did what it needed to do. If Cadillac wants an Eco model... then they should do a diesel.... which they should do even if they DONT want an Eco model. Edit: This is GM's most power dense engine to date according to the press release. I don't see this engine lagging behind V8s or turbo-4s at all.... yet at the same time we also know that it can probably be dialed up higher for those who want even more performance. The 2.0 Ecotech was capable of 150 hp/liter with a GM chip... even approaching that would put the 3.6 over 540hp... which is CTS-V territory.

Same point as before (the flat TQ curve). It's an issue of balance, and the scale is too far tipped toward performance IMO. That's true, of course. If a bit beside the point I'm making here. The point you are making has no point. The only point is how this engine competes w/ equivalent engines from the market competitors. That's simply absurd. Wait... too much performance?

We don't know the power from the 5.3 liter V8 yet, but the 6.2 going into the Stingray is rated for 450 lb-ft torque at peak. That means this 3.6TT is within spitting distance of the Stingray's peak number. That also means that the 5.3's peak torque is unlikely to exceed the "90% of" number that the 3.6TT is providing.

The advantage is this: At least 387 ft-lb on tap between 2500rpm - 5500rpm. A n/a 5.3 V8 would not provide that.

Mmmm this in the XTS? I can't wait to get my hands on that one

They make those already, I'm sure of it

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It is just a concept

Well no... the Olds 307 lasted into the early 90s. Then Northstar was a Cadillac engine for 95% of its life and is still though of in that manner. The 90's LT-1 was thought of as a Chevy/Corvette engine (and still is if you look at ebay ads for Roadmasters or Fleetwoods).

As you say.. it doesn't matter which engine goes in it, it won't sell to those people anyway.... so let Cadillac rule the day with the LT-1 V8.

So a V6 Lexus will end up with 10 - 12 injectors?! How very Benz like of them.

Ocn posted a nice video of the Cascada in operation. http://www.cheersandgears.com/topic/81300-convertible-verano/

It's almost like we thought of this already during Buick Week.

I think the 8-speed is much closer than previously thought.

It hurt them when people won't own one of the high end models outside of warranty and when they know the service department people by name. My grandmother had 3 Buick Park Aves in a row that pushed well over 100k miles each, then she went to a 7-series which was lemoned out to be replaced with another 7-series which was nearly as troublesome but not eligible for lemon law. Once that lease was up, she ended up back in a Lacrosse. They have the perception market cornered for people who care about the badge on the trunk.

Spotted a Honda Element with a sticker on the back that said "You just got passed by a toaster!"

That's what's Up!

I like it... but then I already really like the Evoque.

Absolutely.... though I'm not sure their current 2.0 liter is up to the task.

far more attractive than the Hyundai counterparts.

When one of our readers picks up a new vehicle, I sometimes put it out on the other parts of the interwebs like on twitter and the C&G facebook page. I did that for the Regal GS too.

How many of those sold at or above $100k?