Satty

What is Pontiac's potential? Their dealer network is smaller than Chevy, so the brand is not going to pass the Big Dog in sales. In a world with stop lights every quarter mile and poorly maintained highways, people will put comfort over performance. With gas prices fluctuating and the dollar losing value, people will take efficiency into account when car shopping. The market isn't there for the Pontiac that people on C&G think we should have. And I haven't even mentioned insurance rates. Performance cars aren't going to sell the way they did back in the day, you're never going to see a million Mustangs sold in 18 months again. You're probably going to see a million Camrys or Malibus sold in that time frame someday. Pontiac's best chance to survive is to just be a hanger-oner. If Buick and GMC are strong, Pontiac can hang around and take up a corner of the showroom with models like the Solstice (very limited market) and G8 (limited importation capacity) that can fill the "excitement" niche.

I'm sure high school girls will drive a Buick Somerset if their parents cant buy them a G6. A lot of them drove Aleros until Olds went under.

If GM decides to discontinue Pontiac as a brand name, I'll be unaffected. Just like when Sony discontinued the Aiwa, I can get the same damned thing under a different name.

Saturn and Pontiac have to be viewed as separate entities. They're different cases because of the dealer networks. Shutting Saturn down would cost GM billions and put anyone who works at a stand-alone Saturn dealership out of work. My local dealer is owned by a group that also owns the Acura dealership with which the Saturn dealer shares a lot. If Saturn were closed down, the more competent employees in the Saturn bulding could go over to the Acura building with little problem, but there would still be job losses. Pontic is just one head of a three-headed beast, and I'm sure the people who run B-P-G dealerships wouldn't mind if one brand was gone, it would free up floor space in the showroom and make less product for their salespeople and service staff to study.

I saw an Edsel today! I thought I was hallucinating at first, seeing a vagina coming towards me, but as it got closer, I realized what it was.

Why did they even bother holding on to that 19.9%? Thats like asking your doctor to only remove 20% of a brain tumor.

Its not 2000 anymore, nobody buys McCain as a maverick in 2008. Its like Toyota's quality reputation. They were rock solid in the 90's, but have tailed off a bit. People still think of them as unbreakable, yet they've proven lately to be breakable.

My congressman is a douchebag, its too bad he's a shoo-in for re-election.

Barack Obama defeated Godzilla.

Even conservatives are starting to think Palin sucks.

I wasn't even aware points were awarded during a presidential debate. How can anyone claim to "win" a debate where the judges dont get to judge until November 4th?

Micky keeps looking less and less presidential. Picking a VP, then not letting her talk to the press, then not preparing her so when she does give interviews she looks like an idiot and now his whole In-n-Out-n-In debate thing. I know it sounds bad, but I think I'd rather have 4 more years of Bush than 4 of the Mickster, at least with Bush you know you're getting childish incompetence, with McCain you're getting unpredictable, scatterbrained, almost flaky incompetence.

Obama is also not on the committee that is going to write the bill, he went to the White House after being asked by Bush to attend. And has anyone noticed that since McCain rode in on his white horse, the bill has gone from "sure thing" to "clusterf@#k"? Republicans are arguing with Republicans over the bill. In what way was McCain being the "bigger man?" He decides two days before the debate that he wants to cut out and work on this bill (which is going to start in a committee that he isn't on, and whose leading Republican member doesn't seem too interested in the bill) then the morning of the debate decides he wants back in because most Americans think he was a dumbass for getting out in the first place. Obama, on the other hand, continued with his campaign, and debate prep, and came to the White House meeting when asked. No knee-jerk reaction to a crisis that anyone paying attention (at least anyone who doesn't own 8 homes) could be seen happening months ago. Obama, by the way, introduced 5 bills that went to the Banking Committee, McCain has introduced none.

Someone drank the last of the orange Kool-Aid. There is none anywhere in the house. Once I get over the withdrawals, someone is going to pay. :angry2:

So "real leadership" is suspending your campaign to go to Washington to attempt influencing a bill that you have no real business getting involved in, then when the people writing the bill make it obvious you're not welcome, re-starting your campaing and running down to Oxford to take place in the debate that you said you wouldn't take part in unless the bailout was passed? Thats not leadership, thats Alzheimer's.

Atheism is th belief that there is no god. Agnosticism is the acknowledgment that there may or may not be a supreme being of one form or another.

McCain isn't on the committee that will write the bill, so his going to Washington is pure political gamesmanship. If the bill came out of committee with language he didn't like, then he could go to D.C. and debate the hell out of it. He doesn't need to be in Washington to tell the people writing the bill what he thinks of the language of it.

So what we need is a good agnostic president.

Ohio did (probably) have quite a bit of voter fraud. Their machines were problematic and the (Republican) S.O.S. wouldn't do anything. The new (Democratic) S.O.S. is allowing early mail voting with no excuse needed.

And in "I cant decide if this is racist or not" news, there used to be a baseball team called the Atlanta Crackers and a Negro League team called the Black Crackers.

I've never understood the Kool-Aid drinking Kool-Aid. That would be like me drinking human blood.

So this is even funnier because its more true? Thats an excerpt from her interview with Katie Couric.

I admit it, I have a Kool-Aid addiction. Not just any Kool-Aid, Orange Kool-Aid. I've gone through 6 quarts in the last 18 hours. Is that bad?

Yep, he was born in South Africa.

I see one of those Grand Wagoneers around town. There is a GC TSi in the parking lot at work. The special edition GC that I'd love to have is the Orvis Edition, the interior was pretty cool.