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http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/3138/c6sm.jpg well, that's from the hollywood blogspot, look's interesting, if there's any truth behind this rendering, that would be sweet, then again, could be just a photoshop, don't know. I hope that Styling elements from this beamer below would trickle down to the 2 and 4 series. http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6651/bm...econcept4df.jpg

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That has to be the sickest car I've see this year, I thought the Civic Si and the red Fusion from the SEMA show looked good..., well that sport tuned Audi SUV was pretty cool, but this thing is just crazy sick... except for the rim's, those are so ugly... Oh well.

ROFL!!!

... come on now... lol, leave the republicans and the democrats and Bush out of this... GM and Michael Moore friend's, GM and Michael Moore...

Don't know why... but the only phrase that come's to mind when I think about Michael Moore and from reading this is... "stupid, fat, hobbit... " -Gollum. He deserves a punch in the gut, not for his political stance, but for taking crack's at GM. Whine and complain, whine and complain. Like GM owes you something... Fat hobbit, faT fAT HObbit....., not making any sense because of his height, but I'll continue calling him that till the end of his days....

If the Pilot had a bigger brother, I think it would look a lot like this... but I saw the GMC Yukon on television on Autoweek and C/D television and it look's alot better then the pictures, pretty neat, so I think I'll save my full opinion until I see the Tahoe in person.

Alright folks... here it is... my ranking. Exterior: 1.) Escalade 2.) QX56 3.) Navigator (Tie) 3.) GX470 (Tie) Interior: 1.) Navigator 2.) Escalade 3.) Lexus GX (Tie for a long third...) 4.) QX56 (Tie for a long third...) (Sadly, both of which where introduced after the Navigator's redesign for 03) That's just look's folks, which is subjective, I can't wait to see the real thing in person, and I hope the autoshow will silance the critics. The powertrain is crazy, and I'm really happy to see all the options available on the Escalade. Should be a great year for Cadillac fan's.

First impression.... Interior : A Exterior : B + Overall : A -

I really liked the bar running through the light's theme... oh well. This new look doesn't look so bad either though. Some getting used to.

I actually like it. I used to be a critic of it's styling, but my neighbor has a black one, and wow... it's gorgeous when you see it in person. Just my take haha. And the interior isnt so bad either. I'd like to see a 2 door version.

although I was hoping for more sources, I really appreciate the insight and opinions, take care.

Well, it was in a domestic forum... there are other forums for people who like or want to talk about imports on there. It wasn't like I went in there not knowing that there wouldn't be some Import fan's or Domestic critics in there. I was just promoting Saturn's new image on a Domestic forum, and I stated already that the name was to draw attention on there. But, I don't know that much about Hybrids, or how they work. All I know from the BlueWaterNetwork website, GMinsidenews, Blueovalforums, Cheersandgears, TheCarConnection, and some other web sites regarding Toyota’s Hybrid campaign is that Toyota promoted an image that it did not live up to, with them lobbying for the California Emissions law to be lowered, I think, and for marketing figures that where overly inflated and not realistic for the daily commute, I mean, sure, it might get 60 mpg at peak performance if the conditions where right. That was what I was going on. I do not subscribe to C/D, nor do I read it unless I’m at WinCo or at the Airport, and I only find out about this kind of stuff by reading AutoDeadline, BlueovalForums, DodgeForums, TheCarConnection, Autoweek, DetNews, Media.Ford.Com, and Gminsidenews, but I usually skip Hybrid articles because they don’t come across as something interesting. Although I will be taking a different approach when I come across these sort of issues that are vital for today’s enthusiast, the “Must haves” for those who followup closely on car’s. 2 year’s running lol. And there's my rant for the day haha.

oh, and I'll keep my mouth shut the next time I come across an issue that I'm not totally informed on.

Is there anything wrong with this guy’s statements? It's this guy I'm talking to. I'm not asking you all to resolve this arguement, but rather, to asist me to the right sources that I may better counter in my defense for GM. Started off talking about Saturn's... lol. Anyways... Here was what I said in a Response to someone who asked how Toyota's hybrid campaign have lied: dubbing the Highlander a Hybrid because it get's one more mpg over the regular Highlander and then using the name hybrid to market itself as a Green Friendly brand... as well as using false epa rating's to market it's Prius really add's up... (I may have been wrong with the whole Highlander thing.) Here was what he said: Just a big bowl of Wrong there. Straight off of Toyota's website. Highlander V6 2wd - 19/25 Highlander hybrid V6 2wd - 33/28 Highlander V6 4wd - 18/24 Highlander hybrid V6 4wd 31/27 13-14 more mpg in the city and 3 more mpg on the highway (so perhaps a combined city/hwy 8mpg improvement, maybe even an 8.3mpg improvement...), anyone who knows anything about "full hybrids" will know why theres a big gain in city milage and a little gain in highway milage (or the article below will help explain part of it to you). December's Car & Driver issue has a good editorial on hybrids by Patrick Bedard, heres the link... http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?se...rticle_id=10260 The other knock on hybrids is that they don't get the fuel economy promised by the EPA numbers. Oh, yes, they do, if you drive them as the government drives them on the standard test. Of course, I drove my own routes at my own speeds during my week in a hybrid Lexus RX400h. About half was on freeways, sometimes at speeds above 80; at least 75 miles were in rain. I measured 25.3 mpg over 468 miles. Maybe that doesn't sound miraculous, but when we tested a conventional RX330 (C/D, July 2003), the C/D-observed fuel economy was 17 mpg. In fact, neither Lexus matched its EPA rating in our hands. But the hybrid outperformed the conventional version by 8 mpg. RX330 4wd is rated at 18/24 and delivered 17mpg in their test, the RX400h is rated at 31/27 and delivered 25.3mpg in their test. The hybrid delivered 8.3mpg more than the non-hybrid version of the same vehical. 8.3 is 48.8% of 17, the hybrid improved the mpg by 48.8%. I don't care who you are, that's a significant improvement....far from "one more mpg over the non-hybrid." As for false EPA ratings, nope...try again. They're the same EPA ratings that every other car uses. As mentioned in the above C&D article...if you don't get the EPA mpg figures in a hybrid vehicle then you're not going to get the EPA mpg figures in a non-hybrid vehicle either. As in, if you drive a Prius at 75mph on the highway you won't see 52mpg, and if you drive a Suburban on the highway at 75mph you won't see 19mpg like the EPA says either. Why? Because the EPA doesn't "drive" 75mph during their highway milage testing, the fastest they go is 60mph. If you want to throw a pissy fit over the EPA mpg figures, direct it at the EPA, not at manufacturers of hybrids. Moving up/redefining....yeah they move their products upscale, they don't just keep the same product and "redefine" it by marking up the price and telling people it's not a higher priced car. eh, just some sources on Hybrid tech, the cost of maintaining one, whether it's worth the investment, and Toyota's Hybrid's and their relation to all of the above lol. Oh, and an opinion if you must/want, for or against his arguement. Thanks and take care.

I have a feeling that the Navigator will be knocked out of the competition by this, I mean after seeing the new Expedition Interior, and seeing the Navigator exterior, it's a yawn. The Escalade look's great from the rear view... as if the Infiniti QX56 and the Range Rover had a kid... lol. Just my take.

Well the interior certainly look's refreshing...

The Jeep and the Chrysler look great!

I wonder what the ranking's will be 5 year's from now? 1.) Toyota? 2.) GM? 3.) Nissan? 4.) DCX? 5.) Honda? 6.) Ford? 7.) VW? Don't know, but each one of those companies listed have the possibilty of moving up 2 or down 2 on that list, just my take. I think GM could benefit from this. It's quite interesting how they silently say: "GM need's Toyota's Help." I mean 80% of this article isn't even talking about the meeting itself... oh well, I'm done ranting.

Interior: B+ Exterior: C It's okay.

look's okay. Nothing exciting.

whoop's, lol, that's the Envoy. My bad.

look's pretty on to me. I don't like the sketch, but I think it'll look alot better in person when it come's out.

I dont it. I think it might be the color, or the body kit... or maybe it's both... anywho, I have convinced my dad to get this car, and he's gonna get it, but he want's to paint it that copper orange color that the 350Z come's in... so I'm looking at this car... and I'm gonna do everything in my power to make sure he doesn't.

Well Saddam's name sells.