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Do you mean independent like they are doing with SAAB (minus the 10s of billions of dollars)?

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So will these be there because there are no production debuts from GM at Chicago, or are they just an added curiosity/attraction on GM display?

Personally, I'd like GM to be in that market as I'd like GM to be a true full line OEM competing with the World's best. Can GM do it? Not while it has a rope around its neck, struggling to make it through to the next quarter...

But with which focus and which business model? Selling a 5-Series sized car at a discount relative to the 5-Series and calling it a 3-Series competitor like the 1st CTS? That will do wonders with US value-oriented shoppers, but it will never fly in Europe...

I was looking for a definition of 'yummy', I think I found it The others are hilarious!

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To put things quite bluntly, over here virtually no one gives a rat's ass about Cadillac. The reason is that since the early 1970's Cadillac has, for the most part, been more of "The Standard Of Nothing". I think GM will never have a credible premium/luxury brand that aims to compete with the BMW/Mercedes/Audi trio. The cash crunch is forcing them to abandon that plan. Maybe Cadillac can aspire to be the American equivalent of Jaguar: good cars, hopefully sold at high profit margins, but very small volume when compared to the German trio.

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GM will have to retain other badges, perhaps only as badge names. Holden makes sense in Australia if you weigh the cost of introducing a new brand there. Buick makes sense in NA for the same reasons. Opel would remain almost exclusively European. Cadillac is the big '?' because very few take it seriously outside of NA.........

We rule, foodwise :AH-HA_wink: Actually it does and that's the reason many have defended pairing those two at the retail level. In Europe SAAB sells more and Cadillac can be the niche premium player, In NA the situation reverses and it's SAAB that is the tiny player.

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We're just better Serious answer: in the US small = cheap. That could start changing now, because most people can now afford the gas but not the gas guzzelrs.

Well, I do work in finance. That makes me a bean counter, I guess... LOL, I'm actually unsure if you were just joking or if SAAB is indeed being charged a disproportionate share of costs... so... back at you!

New C5 looks really good and so does this concept.

Good! Thing is that if you give Saab proper funding and, most importantly, independece from GM's strategy "gurus", it might acttually have a future. I'd crap my pants if Saab could become profitable with GM soleley as an equity/technology partner... Saab folks both in NA and in Europe have said that Saab has been profitable (i.e., at least reaching breakeven) just before this global financial crisist mess... I, for one, would LOVE to study how GM puts together its Transfer Pricing system, just to see if Saab isn't being charged with costs it shouldn't be charged with in the first place....

Hyundai managed to make a better G6 coupe than Pontiac.

Someone at the mine has a C6... that thin is the ugliest $h! I've ever seen in my life!

Midget Or 'Vertically Challenged' in today's politically correct speak.

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Pillarless post MCE Camaro FTW!

My only complaint re the Delta is that the interior is too close to the Bravo, both in design and apparent quality. Otherwise, I love it! The Delta is longer : 4.5m long wher the Bravo is 4.3m or 4.4m long (don't remember exact figures). I think the Delta is based on the extended length platform that will underpin the Bravo station wagon.