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^ Well if GM pulled out of Canada I for one WOULD NOT buy a GM ever again, considering the amount of grants the Federal government has given GM in the past to keep their plants competitive. If its "Adios" from GM then its "F*!k off" from me.

They do have a system that works well that way, Autotrac 4wd which is class exclusive. I have that on my 4x4 now and works great in "Auto". Lock it into 4x4 and you hop/jump with heavy steering in tight turns. I am not saying that this is the problem but it may be an issue with people not knowing how the product works. The differential in trucks and many truck based suvs are quite archaic because they send the same torque to the front wheels as they do to the rear.

Nope, -43C may sound like a lie but it is very true. I work 400KM North of Edmonton in the oil sands. Here is a blip from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_McMurray "Temperatures average -19°C in winter with the lowest recorded -50.6°C, (-58°F).[7] In July temperatures average 17°C, with the highest recorded being 37°C in August.[7] Its annual precipitation amounts to 455.5 millimetres (17.9 in) and falls mainly in the summer months, its snowfall is 155.8 centimetres (61.3 in)[7] and appears within a range of 5 to 7 months.?

Guys, come on!! Your cars all had better start at ~0F, The Ford Escape that I use for work started at -43C, (-45.4F), not plugged in!

It's just difficult to steer, not impossible. I am not sure If they are talking about 4x4 / AWD vehicles when they are engaged in 4x4. They do not steer nicely while parking, but that is the same with every auto manufacturer.

Its like a game of "Where's Waldo"

It is way behind the Malibu and the refreshed Fusion makes it look bad as well. Has toyota given up? Since the 1997-2001 version it has been all downhill for the camry (in design).

Well, I would love to see the 300 and the chrysler van in the GM stable.

^ It is interesting to see how diverse the community is on here.

Outch... you need a sugar daddy..

It says the complete opposite: "In the full-size space, GM is king with a 41.8 percent market share. Ford trails GM with a 32.3 percent slice of the pie, while Dodge commands just half that figure with 15.3 percent of the market. Toyota holds a distant 8.5 percent share of the full-size market."

The student debt load that most people in our generation has to carry is insane. We have to make good money in order to stay afloat.

How about Buick forgets the tagline and just build a great line of cars. People will create their own tagline for the make.

^ Nice pics, I love winter!!

Yeah, Try this one, I did a search and found it: http://jalopnik.com/5120037/2010-buick-lac...ing-at-old-navy

^ Well, if it all falls through, we will be cemented in a long hard recession/depression. Bennett buggy's anybody?

Most likely that it is frost as a result of light drizzle. It looks amazing though, great pictures!

^ At first the schnoz looked odd, but it has grown on me. An AWD model would do fine when my lease is up on my truck.

^ Don't count on it... I have a feeling GM will be there. They will just roll the cars in on the carpet and that will be the show.

^Rick had better fly coach if he doesn't drive.

There is going to be a news conference at 2:30 regarding the auto makers bailout.

I would buy a volt regardless, it is a cool car. My boyfriend could commute to work without ever having to buy gas!

^ wow, the ugly stick that touched the MKZ slammed right into the 3.

^ That may not even cover the lawyer's fees!

Forecast rattles auto industry GREG KEENANAUTO INDUSTRY REPORTER , From Tuesday's Globe and Mail http://ctv2.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/st...BN/ctv-business A collapse to a 25-year low in U.S. auto sales next year could imperil not just the Detroit Three but also scores of suppliers and thousands of dealers. The forecast of sales plunging to 11.7 million vehicles next year comes from beleaguered General Motors Corp., but it illustrates the dangers for all Detroit auto makers and every other entity in the industry. The GM forecast would represent the lowest level of sales since the industry was climbing out of the recession of the early 1980s. “That will have a catastrophic effect on the industry,” said Bill Pochiluk, president of auto consulting firm Automotive Compass LLC. The sales figure of 11.7 million translates into vehicle production of about 10.7 million units, Mr. Pochiluk said, and could doom some auto parts makers. Michael Robinet, vice-president of forecast services for consulting firm CSM Worldwide Inc., is slightly less pessimistic than General Motors, calling for U.S. sales of 12.7 million vehicles and production of about 11.5 million cars and trucks. “It presents the most challenging environment they've seen probably since the [second World] War,” Mr. Robinet said. Indeed, GM said yesterday that it would lay off 1,900 more workers at North American parts plants, following production cuts and layoffs of 3,600 people announced Friday. In conference calls and reports yesterday, Wall Street analysts dissected the impact of a potential bankruptcy of GM, which said on Friday that even before the dismal forecast for 2009 comes to pass, it may run out of cash to operate its business. Rod Lache, auto analyst for Deutsche Bank AG, wrote that the value of GM's shares has reached zero, sending the company's stock plunging on the New York Stock Exchange to a level not hit since the 1940s. “At this point, without external government intervention, GM may no longer be able to fund its U.S. operations beyond December,” Mr. Lache wrote. He also pointed out that the plunge in U.S. sales to a forecast 12 million next year from a peak of 17.4 million in 2000 will create a disaster for the entire industry. The U.S. government may need to provide GM with $10-billion (U.S.) to keep it afloat next year and in 2010, he said, or as much as $25-billion to finance its cash burn and a restructuring. Such a restructuring would strip it down to the Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac brands, eliminate another 19,000 unionized employees through the shutdown of five assembly plants, buy out a few thousand dealers and defer money owed to the United Auto Workers in 2010 as part of the union's takeover of GM's health care plan. But the $25-billion figure for GM alone matches the amount the Detroit Three as a group have asked Washington to provide to help them survive the credit crunch and the collapse in the market. The best solution for GM is probably a bankruptcy backstopped by the U.S. government providing debtor-in-possession financing that permits a company to keep operating while it's in bankruptcy protection, John Murphy, auto analyst for Merrill Lynch, told investors during a conference call yesterday. “We do believe it would be best if natural evolution were allowed to run its course,” Mr. Murphy said and the Detroit Three were allowed to scale back, possibly becoming the Detroit Two. He noted that the 1980 bailout of Chrysler Corp. by the U.S. and Canadian governments meant that excess assembly capacity in North America was kept in place and “zombie-like” auto makers continued operating for another 25 years. The most likely outcome of the crisis for Chrysler, he said, is that it will be broken up.