Sixty8panther

Your'e right. Stupid people are better off in FWD cars... then when they understeer into a guardrail a RWD Wrecker towes them away & they convince themselves how AWD or 4x4 would have helped them stop better and they MUST buy a vehicle with this feature as they need to get around in the winter. Meantine I drive through sevearl inches of snow with RWD cars like '84 Datuns, '83 Firebirds, '86/'87 Fleetwood Broughams, '87 Cougars etc...

Did McDdonalds INVENT and patent the Burger? That's a pretty silly question then no?

There's more examples of that... Evo8 for instance... I forget if it's all the models or just the MR that have the 3 diffs. Whatever this is another silly advantage where they split hairs... the differance can MAYBE be noticable to Mario Andareti at Laguna Seca.

Croc: I wish you would take a vacation. Please!? Maybe a few of us here can chip in and get you some gas money for your Mercedes and you can take off for a while.

Another over glorified new technology. Flat screens take up a shitload less room and probably cost less even in the Plasma variety. To me a moving billboard is useless... not something to get all excited about . I've already have to put up wiht WAY too much advertising... more is just that much MORE annoying. I was referring and should have clarified that in the consumer market this thing is DOE... circular room? Please, what the heck are the advantages? It's bulky and azwkward wiht the convex image curving away fomr the viewer. Will this be etched on the bottom of the screen? "Caution: Objects may be more distorted than they appear"

There are dozens of vehicles offered by several divisions of GM right now... like all else in life this can not be a simple YES or NO answer... the answer its obviously somewhere in between. I would have worded the question what percentage of vehicles are competetive? 10, 20, 30, - all the way to a 100 Anyway here's some great products from GM that are very much competetive: Corvette (obviously) Hummer H2 Colorado CTS-V STS-V Escalade/EXT and all of it's cousins (GMC & Chevy) Silverado & Sierra Cobalt Solstice GTO Express Van SRX And when the Camaro finally shows up it will kick some ass for sure! Outside of the USA Opel/Vauxhall and Holden hold their own 80% of the time. SAABs are nice but WAY overpriced. Subaru saddly is no longer a part of the GM empire. :(

Hey BV: -2003 Honda Sportrax 300EX; red, runs perfectly, in good-excellent condition, needs new tires; $2800 Can I take a test drive at night wiht no headlights? :)

Before I even noticed you post Z28 I was goignt ot say "Look it's a Honda Catera" :P I first noticed this a few years ago.

It was cool while it lasted.

LOL @ Nos. Reminds me of a funny retard moment wiht the same kid and the same car.... Mike put a Cherry Bomb exhaust on that Citation that summer and the weekend after we went cruising at Hampton Beach. We ended up next to a late 80s Ferrari Testarossa (red of course) and the driver was a jacked Mofo who looked like he could crush a oil barrrel with his pinkey. He was wearing no shirt and was oiled up.... :rolleyes: Anyway Mike revs up the POS 2.8 liter in the Citation and the guy just looks over with disgust. A few minutes later the light turns green and the Testarossa takes off like a freeking bullet. Only thing remaining is a puff of blue smoke that oozes out of the rear "grille", you know the horizontal slots. The thign was Mike just sat there at the light laughing and holding up traffic. What a tool. Actually both of them acted like dorks in that scenario. Few minutes later we caught up to the Blonde Tan-in-a-can Ah-nold impersonator when he got stuck behind a Winebago at the next red light. :P

Wait I know this one! Aztek, AZ-tek... AZTEK. Um... What is REO? What is Stanley Steamer? What is Crosley? What is LaSalle? What is Oakland? Seriously, am I getting any warmer?

Isn't that what they're going to call the 2nd gen. Aztek? :P

What part of this quote do you deny? :huh:

Balthazar: Well then I've been callign the C-pillar a B-pillar on Hardtop 4drs for the past few years. :P Are you kiddig me? He had a misconstrued signature making fun of my signature and yet not only did he not understand the concept of a Hardtop he had no idea that a Four Door Hardtop (pillarless) even existed. But yet if he had even bothered to take a look at my signature (look below) then he'd have seen the complete lack of a B-pillar on the (4dr) 1969 Sedan DeVille. If you're going to attack someones personal opinion unprovoked then at least TRY to understand WTF you're talking about. <_< BTW Croc: Yes, there's some weird lighting or reflection there but it is NOT a "B" pillar. There was NO SUCH thing as a Cadillac Sedan in 1961. Not a 2dr, not a 4dr, NO sedans. I repeat not one 1961 Cadillac has a fixed B-pillar. Chrome trim attached to the window that rolls down completely with the glass. Maybe next time you go to a carshow you can appreciate the awsome uniqueness of a 1950s or 1960s Hardtop.

I'm a fan of Nissan but all I see in this thing is Lotus Esprit Althogut the first and only other time I saw it a few years ago I thought it looked good for something from the mid 1980s, a lot better than the MR2 of those years, but the Fiero still looked better.

I have this sick and twisted fantasy of having a beater 1961 Cadillac and driving it around on Halloween night, but here's where it gets interesting: Oaky bear with me here... I'd spear a Jack-o-Lantern onto each rear fin and let the tail light act as the candle. How nucking futs would THAT be?!?!

Sorry to be a wet blanket but I'm not a bigg fan of 1963 & 1964 Cadillacs. To be blunt they cut their fins down to the point of it being like a castration. Like a canry with it's wings clipped. :( I would have either done somthing different wiht the fins but kept them big OR I would have pulled a Mopar and just eliminated them altogeather.

wow... weird and cool but mostly useless.

Here's anohter one of these gorgeous Vista Roof 1961 Cadillacs. Notice all windows rolled down and NO B-pillar!

well wouldn't that make the rear pillar a B-pillar? Can a four window Hardtop have a C-pillar? I always thought a hardtop's B pillar IS where the saedan's C-pillar is located. I'm honsetly asking? Is it proper terminology to refer to a Vista Roof as having an A and C pillar but no B? This means my Camaro also has A and C pillars but the B is considered non-existant, right?

Oh well... one less Camry-Solara on the road and one more in a lake with a trunk full of concrete and decomposing body. :ph34r: I mean... uh, yeah where is Satty I miss him. :rolleyes:

This is a very subtle styling cue that harkens back to the Coachbuilt 1930s luxury behemoths.

Two mistakes made with this car: 1. A sedan equivalent should have been made wiht unique Rocket-style vertical tail lights. 2. Never should have been dropped.

I don't like the RS front ends all that much. They look busy and kind of awkward. Semi-gloss black is the way they were meant to look.