Sixty8panther

Right, same as I wouldn't want a Miata suspension on a 929 Sedan and vice versa.

WTF would you be embarassed to say your first car was a Fiero? That's about as cool as a middle class teenager's first car gets! I mean a POS car I'd be embarassed would be a '74 Honda CVCC or a '82 Dodge Aries... why the hell is a Poor Man's M.E. Ferrari an embarasement? Shows how effectively the media has brainwashed the public so that anything American is now un-hip. <_<

14. What makes for a cooler family car for seven... a 1959 Plymouth Suburban Sport Wagon or a 1959 Buick LeSabre Estate Wagon? 15. If I won $200,000,000 in the Lottery and bought a used Bugati Veyron, painted it flat black, had a pinstripe artist do it up old school rat rod style and got a "CRAPBOX" vanity plate would I stil be a yuppie?

Well, we can see the rims.... and a hint of character line. Not much else though. I wish Chrysler made the 4dr 300 ragtop they showed off last year.

Look people you want to go for Toyota's throat with Chevrolet? Here's how... enough product to cover EVERYONE. Keep the FWD Impala and Malibu for the FWD pansies that feel like RWD is scary or somehow impractical. Then make two different sizes of affordable RWD chassis, here's the breakdown I'd do: Mid size RWD: Camaro for Chevy (also GTO for Pontiac an Invicta for Buick) Full size RWD: Big sedan called Caprice Classic and a large personal luxury coupe called Monte Carlo. This also means a bitchin' Electra 225 for Buick, full size Bonneville for Pontiac and top top it all off dress it up and give it some rea luxury indise and out for a Fleetwood Borugham that can coexist with the smaller FWD Deville (DTS) No more lost sales to Ford (Crown Victoria & Mustang) but you're also still satisfying the FWD grocery getter market and thus taking sales away from Toyota & Honda. It's a WIN/WIN scenario people, if you're developing a whole new floorplan might as well use it!

I call the big one "Bitey" (one of Matt Groening's personal favorite Simpsons lines ever BTW)

Yup... way too many ambiguous rules...

Good point Balthazar. There's plenty of big BOF barges that have been made to handle well anough to be raced aaroud the twisties... umm like that Fleetwood Brougham coupe with a 500 cadddy motor. Also apples to apples.... a 1969 compact car did not handle like a 2005 Cobalt SS either. Those too need improvement if you're going to want to corner like a POrsche 911. But what many people fial to realise is that the cushy ride of a 1969 Impala or a 1996 C.C. is a positive trait for many buyers. My self included. I've driven all kinds of cars and owned cars with relatively tight suspensions but I'll take a big BOF car for a daily driver over anything else, and this seems to be perplexing to many on this forum. Nuff said.

Gross. Makes a Scion look upscale. :huh:

Finally a worhty succesor to the great Mopar Black & Blues... http://www.bluesmobile.net/images/Dodge%20Police.jpg God, Mopars from the 60s are sooo weird. Every time I see one it still make me scratch my head. Some are really cool (1959) :wub: but others are just bizzare. and WTF is going on here? Are they breaking up an Orgy? This car sure as hell did not deserve to wear a lightbar. But then again the Lumina did not either.

WTF voted anything other than "NO"? :blink:

Time will tell I guess. If however you're right and GM is pulling our leg about the Camaro three wil be some really nasty backlash from all this B.S. reporting by the media of a 5th gen. Camaro concept. Time will tell.

WTF??? The photos appeared in AutoWeek like 8 days ago. Feb. cover? OF WHAT?

I expect a settlement check from DCX for all the trauma taht caused to my eyes and brain. It will take months of therapy to erase that hideous image from my brain. :puke:

Looking at 1st pic.: I LOVE Rally Racing. It's so cool to see a bunch of guys flip a car rightside so that it can continue the race. But then every so often someone gets hurt like this. Ouch is right! :blink:

Lyle Lanley: Well, sir, there's nothing on earth Like a genuine, Bona fide, Electrified, Six-car Monorail! What'd I say? Ned Flanders: Monorail! Lyle Lanley: What's it called? Patty+Selma: Monorail! Lyle Lanley: That's right! Monorail! [crowd chants `Monorail' softly and rhythmically] Miss Hoover: I hear those things are awfully loud... Lyle Lanley: It glides as softly as a cloud. Apu: Is there a chance the track could bend? Lyle Lanley: Not on your life, my Hindu friend. Barney: What about us brain-dead slobs? Lyle Lanley: You'll be given cushy jobs. Abe: Were you sent here by the devil? Lyle Lanley: No, good sir, I'm on the level. Wiggum: The ring came off my pudding can. Lyle Lanley: Take my pen knife, my good man. I swear it's Springfield's only choice... Throw up your hands and raise your voice! All: Monorail! Lyle Lanley: What's it called? All: Monorail! Lyle Lanley: Once again... All: Monorail! Marge: But Main Street's still all cracked and broken... Bart: Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken! All: Monorail! Monorail! Monorail! [big finish] Monorail! Homer: Mono... D'oh!

Sorry dude, even the '69 Impala which is not a stelar example of 60s styling is still superior to 95% of new cars today. To each his own.

Don't forget "Morons"... I'm quoting Carpetbagger here. :AH-HA_wink:

The AWD vans from GM are so much superior to any of their would be competition that it's like they have their very own niche and nothign else even compares. The Econoline makes the Crown Victoria look like a fresh and cutig edge vehicle by comparison. Take a look at an Econoline on a lift, more 1966 than 2006.

I do an awful lot of thinkin' about cars throughout the course of my day.... I'm always boring Marcia with my "if I ever have the money..." and "wouldn't it be cool if..." type comments about cars. Anyway I just think there are many important questions out there that I need to answer during the course of my life. Here's a short list off the top of my head, thirteen to be exact since it's a lucky number. You are about to enter the empty space known only as: "Sixty8Panther's Brain" 1. How much money will it take to realize my dream of having a 30s Hot Rod powered by a radial aircraft engine? 2. Which is cooler, a 1960 Cadillac Landau Hearse (by Eureka) or a 1967 Cadillac Hearse (by Miller Meteor)? 3. Would it be worth the money and effort to make a 2005 VW Beetle rear engined & RWD using a Bug w/ a bad motor & a totaled Boxter w/ a good engine & trans? 4. If I win the Lottery should I make a "Pegasus II" by stuffing a SD455 motor into a old beatup Ferrari 308 as an homage to William Mitchell? 5. How soon will I fulfill my next personal goal of buying a 1959 Buick? 5. Will it be a Flattop, 2dr bubbletop or 4dr bubbletop? 6. Once I sell my Camaro to buy a '59 Buick what will I eventually drop my 350 crate motor into? 7. How long would a stock IRS & rear end last in a 1984 Datsun if it was powered by a 377hp Chevy 350? 8. What would be more of a sleeper, a 2006 Impala converted to RWD and powered by a LS2 mounted lenghtwise or a LS7 Powered 1961 Impala wagon? 9. How much wood would a Wood Chuck chuck if he had a 4-speed 572 powered Wood Chucker? 10. Could I ever afford to pay an engineer & a machine shop enough money to make a 1000 cubich inch V16 using two Cadillac 500s with a joined crank? 11. If I did have a custom built Cadillac block 1000 cubich inch V16 would it be a waste to throw it in the back of a 1961 Cadillac pro street Combination Hearse w/ the formal window curtains and quad Coffin shapped Air cleaners? 12. Has anyone done a Hydrogen powered 1969 Camaro and if not will I be the first? 13. How come only one 1959 Buick Flxible Professional car is known to have survived even thought they made 49 Hearse/Combo/Ambulances that year? <_< Hope this helps to understand my brain patterns and lack of sanity in my posts.

GM: back page <_< Toyota: front page

yup.... sleep is tought when you make a sweet automotive purchese like that. I did not get muhc sleep the night I got my Camaro or even the night I got my Cougar XR7, the first car I bought and registereed myself as well as my first RWD/V8 car. If I was getting a Solstice tomorrow I'd be hard pressed to stop shaking from excitement, never mind sleeping. :)

He-he!

CaddyRex: Cool.... nice looking GP you got there. Quite a bit nicer than any Stratus, esp. a 4-banger. Decka: *sigh* I hear you buddy... stupidity & Anti-Patriotism seem to both be dominant genes.

Well, I've read in some book of mine, I own it and wil have to go searching for it, that Leland (no Y :P ) worked for Colt Firearms because he wanted to make a positive contribution towards the cause of the Norht but could not fight since he was a Quaker and therefore Pacifist. So the civil war & his Quaker beliefs directly lead him down the road to work for Colt Firearms... there he learned the ememse practicality and future promisse of mass production and parts interchangability. The rest is history. :) http://home.iag.net/~middlebr/dewar.html