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    2015 Cadillac CTS Getting Price Cuts Up To $3,000


    • Cadillac Decides To Cut Prices on the CTS to Help Slumping Sales

    15 months ago, Cadillac announced that it would be raising the price of the new CTS. This move worried dealers as it would cause buyers to look away. It seems their fears were founded as sales of the CTS this past year dropped 3.8 percent when compared to last year. Cadillac is doing something about that.

    Automotive News got their hands on a memo issued to Cadillac dealers yesterday which announced that it would reduce sticker prices on most 2015 CTS models by $1,000 to $3,000. It also plans on increasing the amount of standard features in the CTS.

    "We're taking what we've seen are the more desirable optional features for customers and making them more readily available. Once a car has been on the market for a while, it's not unusual to look at the customer behavior and try to optimize for it," said Cadillac spokesman David Caldwell.

    An example of a price cut in action is the CTS Premium Collection equipped with the 3.6L V6. Originally costing $65,765, the model will now have a new price of $62,765.

    The price cuts are shift in strategy for Cadillac. Last September, Cadillac President Johan de Nysschen said that price cuts were off the table. de Nysschen believes the brand needs to charge more to be more in line with the German competitors, along with increasing resale values and improve the brand's image.

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    I think the price cuts are unnecessary.  A 3.8% drop in volume when prices increased about $10k and there is no coupe anymore which was 30% of sales of the old model..... that's a smashing success actually.

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    It should be noted that the base CTS 2.0T and VSport models will not be affected by the price cuts.

     

    ... so basically the V6... which is a bit of a tweener in terms of power.

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    It should be noted that the base CTS 2.0T and VSport models will not be affected by the price cuts.

     

    ... so basically the V6... which is a bit of a tweener in terms of power.

     

     

    and a number of 2.0T models above the base.

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    3.6 really needs to be getting a single turbo to give the perception and grunt of the German and English competitors who have some forced induction for their tweener motors. GM has soldiered the 3.6 for almost 8 years, albeit with updates.

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    3.6 really needs to be getting a single turbo to give the perception and grunt of the German and English competitors who have some forced induction for their tweener motors. GM has soldiered the 3.6 for almost 8 years, albeit with updates.

     

    weeeelll... the LFX has only been around since 2012. It is so different from the prior LLT that it is basically all new. It just shares a displacement.

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    Is the current 3.6 part of GM's new ecoboost engine line or a carry over? I will admit that I find it very hard to tell the new engineered engines from the old due to them having the same displacement size.

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    Is the current 3.6 part of GM's new ecoboost engine line or a carry over? I will admit that I find it very hard to tell the new engineered engines from the old due to them having the same displacement size.

     

    Ecotec?  No, it isn't part of that.

     

    It's best if you think in engine codes

    LY7 = original 3.6 

    LLT = original 3.6 + direct injection

    LFX = Mostly new 3.6 with direct injection

    LF3 = LFX plus turbo-charging and other enhancements

    LF4 = LF3 plus more boost and other enhancements

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    3.6 really needs to be getting a single turbo to give the perception and grunt of the German and English competitors who have some forced induction for their tweener motors. GM has soldiered the 3.6 for almost 8 years, albeit with updates.

     

    weeeelll... the LFX has only been around since 2012. It is so different from the prior LLT that it is basically all new. It just shares a displacement.

     

     

    That is why I said with updates. The original 3.6DI (LLT) was introduced in 2007 and with redesigned cylinder head and integrated exhaust manifold, and composite intake manifold and other components updated became a LFX.

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    3.6 really needs to be getting a single turbo to give the perception and grunt of the German and English competitors who have some forced induction for their tweener motors. GM has soldiered the 3.6 for almost 8 years, albeit with updates.

     

    weeeelll... the LFX has only been around since 2012. It is so different from the prior LLT that it is basically all new. It just shares a displacement.

     

    The Mercedes 3.5 liter V6 with direct injection came out in 2012, and they are phasing it out now for the 3.0 bi-turbo V6, which itself will be replaced in 2017 by the new inline engines.  So things can change fast.  The market has moved to boosted sixes, Cadillac needs a 350 hp/torque V6 with an 8 speed.

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    3.6 really needs to be getting a single turbo to give the perception and grunt of the German and English competitors who have some forced induction for their tweener motors. GM has soldiered the 3.6 for almost 8 years, albeit with updates.

     

    weeeelll... the LFX has only been around since 2012. It is so different from the prior LLT that it is basically all new. It just shares a displacement.

     

    The Mercedes 3.5 liter V6 with direct injection came out in 2012, and they are phasing it out now for the 3.0 bi-turbo V6, which itself will be replaced in 2017 by the new inline engines.  So things can change fast.  The market has moved to boosted sixes, Cadillac needs a 350 hp/torque V6 with an 8 speed.

     

     

    Cadillac has two boosted 6es..

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    I think the price cuts are unnecessary.  A 3.8% drop in volume when prices increased about $10k and there is no coupe anymore which was 30% of sales of the old model..... that's a smashing success actually.

     

    I would just like to point out that the CTS coupe was, in fact, sold for the 2014 model year. I'm sure it was a negligible percent of the pie, but still... 

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    I think the price cuts are unnecessary.  A 3.8% drop in volume when prices increased about $10k and there is no coupe anymore which was 30% of sales of the old model..... that's a smashing success actually.

     

    I would just like to point out that the CTS coupe was, in fact, sold for the 2014 model year. I'm sure it was a negligible percent of the pie, but still... 

     

    Limited production year and mostly special edition V-series. 

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    I think they should have added more content rather than cut prices.  And simplify the option packages, there are so many levels of standard, luxury, performance and premium, plus individual options on top of that.   Maybe they should just dump the standard car, and start with luxury, then they wouldn't have to drop the price.

     

    Although the price drop is somewhat irrelevant, dealers are probably discounting anyway, and if you go on Cadillac's website it says you can get $6,000 off a 2014 CTS, they don't list a 2015 yet.

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    Johan changed his mind awfully fast too, what happened to German level pricing?  A C-class is $40k now, the E-class is $52k.  I will list a complaint on Mercedes pricing though, the E400 is $62,350 (granted the premium and sport packages are included) but the E550 used to be about that price and you got Airmatic, now the E550 is gone.

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    I think the price cuts are unnecessary.  A 3.8% drop in volume when prices increased about $10k and there is no coupe anymore which was 30% of sales of the old model..... that's a smashing success actually.

     

    I would just like to point out that the CTS coupe was, in fact, sold for the 2014 model year. I'm sure it was a negligible percent of the pie, but still... 

     

    Limited production year and mostly special edition V-series. 

     

     

    No doubt it was probably limited, though, I would like to see the official production numbers. I see far more regular coupes than V's listed online.

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    I think the price cuts are unnecessary.  A 3.8% drop in volume when prices increased about $10k and there is no coupe anymore which was 30% of sales of the old model..... that's a smashing success actually.

     

    I would just like to point out that the CTS coupe was, in fact, sold for the 2014 model year. I'm sure it was a negligible percent of the pie, but still... 

     

    Limited production year and mostly special edition V-series. 

     

     

    No doubt it was probably limited, though, I would like to see the official production numbers. I see far more regular coupes than V's listed online.

     

     

    From what I gather, they did a short run of 2015s and that was it. Production wrapped up in the summer. 

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    The coupes were limited period as there were not all that many made V or otherwise compared to the sedan.

     

    Coupes are a hard sell and add to it the fact the model is being discontinued that even more slows sales. Who wants an old new car?

     

    I loved the coupes but they really were a small slice of the pie as stated.

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    I'm sure a new CTS coupe would again garner around a 30% portion of total production; the same basic shell with the new front clip would be fantastic.
    That car is a modern design milestone in a lot of people's book.

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    The company is making a good choice in reducing the cost as, putting a high price on the car will make customers look away and the cars may not sell and would sit there and dealers would have to sell at lower price than they got and not profit as much. The cars would have to have real good features like maybe dvd player in there, using your thumb to open car or start it would be real good and maybe let the car do the driving when you are tired from a hard days work. I think the lower cost is a good way, to start off the year and may get some good sales and more customers wuld come and purchase the cars if discounts given.

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    I think the price cuts are unnecessary.  A 3.8% drop in volume when prices increased about $10k and there is no coupe anymore which was 30% of sales of the old model..... that's a smashing success actually.

     

     

    The CTS is selling at almost 95% of its cheaper GEN2 self, while having only 33.3% of its former Gen2 variants.

    I'd say dropping the price on a car by $3,000 after raising the price $10,000 isn't exactly a real retreat. It also now will alleviate the additional discounting that Cadillac was doing to compete with that of the E-Class and 5Series. The average incentive on the CTS last year was $9,000, but this does include incentives from trying to move Gen2 models. The 5-series average incentive was $7000; the E class was $7,000.

    Quick points of FACT, which most will ignore despite it being the meat and potatoes of the announcement:

    The car's base price of $46,340 WON'T change. 

    The price of the VSport remains $71,880.

    The $3,000 comes off of top level trims of the CTS range. For example, a Premium Collection 3.6L is now $62,765, down from $65,767. A Performance Collection goes down $3,000, to $58,365.   

     

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    I am offering logical reason why sales could be down a massive 3.8% (sarcasm) after raising the price more than 30%. If raising the price by 30% only yielded a blow back of 3.8% I am not seeing a real issue per se. 

    I will also reiterate in saying that the sales could be down simply because of the FACT that they are only selling 1/3 of the variations of the Gen2.

     

    Again if I, a lover of the CTS, wanted a coupe mid-size luxo car.. no dice.. need to go buy an M6, or EClass coupe.

     

    If I wanted a Super-Hi-Po, no dice.. I'd have to go get an M5 or E63AMG.. maybe even a XF-SuperC.

     

    If I wanted a wagon.. no dice..
     

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    I am offering logical reason why sales could be down a massive 3.8% (sarcasm) after raising the price more than 30%. If raising the price by 30% only yielded a blow back of 3.8% I am not seeing a real issue per se.

     

    There is prolly, somewhere, a 'price adjusted' metric that would show sales are UP xx%.

     

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    People need to get it thru their heads that this is not GM of 1979 and Cadillac is not looking to build 300,000+ units/year anymore.

    In the old days, that was the driving factor with all the factories and dealers GM had, and the uncompetitive product the Germans were fielding. 

    This is a different era with different goals.

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      Golf SportWagen
                  2,174
                      628
      246.2%
                12,227
                13,112
      -6.7%
      Total Golf Family
                  6,484
                      4,110
      57.8%
                52,719
                59,593
      -11.5%
      Jetta Sedan
                10,212
                 11,021
      -7.3%
              108,023
              114,365
      -5.5%
      Jetta SportWagen       
      (now Golf SportWagen)
                        -  
                          1
      n/a
                         5
                  2,671
      -99.8%
      Total Jetta
                   10,212
      11,022
      -7.3%
      108,028
                117,036
      -7.7%
      Beetle Coupe
                     915
                      571
      60.2%
                  8,738
                12,067
      -27.6%
      Beetle Convertible
                     488
                      440
      10.9%
                  5,333
                  9,289
      -42.6%
      Total Beetle
                     1,403
                      1,011
      38.8%
      14,071
                  21,356
      -34.1%
      Eos*
                        -  
                      201
      n/a
                     387
                  2,751
      -85.9%
      Passat
                  6,441
                   2,759
      133.5%
                65,761
                74,611
      -11.9%
      CC
                     268
                      475
      -43.6%
                  2,863
                  5,643
      -49.3%
      Tiguan
                  4,516
                   3,907
      15.6%
                38,063
                30,943
      23.0%
      Touareg
                     348
                      397
      -12.3%
                  3,827
                  6,551
      -41.6%
      TOTAL
                     29,672
                      23,882
      24.24%
                  285,719
                  318,484
      -10.29%
      *Eos production ended in July 2015
    • By William Maley
      Car Sales Quicken and Trucks Continue Momentum as American Honda Sets New Sales Records in November
      Dec 1, 2016 - TORRANCE, Calif.
      Powered by both cars and trucks, American Honda and the Honda Division set new November sales records American Honda and Honda Division trucks also set new November sales marks Compacts lead, with Fit gaining 43 percent and HR-V soaring 132 percent above year ago levels MDX sets November pace for Acura while RDX gets new November record Acura NSX reaches another milestone American Honda Motor Co., Inc. today reported total November sales of 122,924 Honda and Acura vehicles, an increase of 6.5 percent versus November of last year to set a new November record. American Honda trucks gained 9.9 percent for a new November record on sales of 62,737 units. Honda Division overall vehicle sales also set a new November mark of 111,308 units, rising 7.9 percent. Acura Division sales held fairly steady in November, totaling 11,616 units for a decrease of 5.1 percent.
      Honda
      Continuing to buck the industry trend, Honda car sales helped push the brand to a new November record. Fit and Accord led the way for Honda cars, with strong support from Civic.  Honda truck sales maintained strong momentum with a new November record as HR-V jumped in triple digits and both CR-V and the new Ridgeline had strong sales performances.
      Honda Division sales rose 7.9 percent on sales of 111,308 for a new November record. Honda cars gained 5.6 percent on sales of 56,943 units, while trucks increased 10.3 percent on sales of 54,365 units for a new November record. Accord, recently named one of Car & Driver magazine's 10 Best cars for a record 31st time, enjoyed a robust gain of 6.3 percent on sales of 27,182 units. HR-V sales totaled 8,141 in November, a remarkable 132 percent increase. Civic sales topped 25,000 for the month, gaining 1 percent and keeping Civic on track to set an all-time annual sales mark in December. "Considering the continued consumer appetite for trucks and SUVs, we're excited to see Honda cars resonate so well with our customers," said Jeff Conrad, senior vice president and general manager of the Honda Division. "This is especially gratifying considering the strength of our light truck lineup, as we continue to hit on all cylinders with individual retail buyers."
      Acura
      Acura light trucks continued to show sales muscle, with MDX leading the month of November for the brand and RDX recording best-ever November sales. On the car side, RLX showed an uptick while NSX reached a new milestone.
      Acura trucks continued on pace to top 2015, gaining 7.6 percent with sales of 8,372 units in November. Sales of the redesigned MDX rose 13 percent on sales of 4,622 for the month. RDX had its best November sales to date, rising 1.6 percent on sales of 3,750 vehicles. RLX sales moved up slightly in November, gaining 16.7 percent on sales of 140 units. Reaching another milestone, the custom-crafted NSX supercar has topped 200 customer deliveries since sales commenced in May. "Strong sales of the new Acura MDX demonstrate that our design direction and focus on performance is the right path for the Acura brand," said Jon Ikeda, vice president and general manager of the Acura division. "With the NSX and the MDX leading the way, we will take our entire lineup toward Acura's Precision Crafted Performance DNA."

    • By William Maley
      Audi of America sets November sales record on SUV and A4 demand
      December 01, 2016 | HERNDON, Virginia
      Demand for Q7 SUV more than doubled; Q3 rose 45 percent A4 sedan increased 30 percent for the month Record sales streak continues for 71st consecutive month Audi of America reported a November sales increase of 2.5 percent to 17,118 vehicles, as the Q7, Q3 and A4 continued to lead the volume gains.
      It was Audi of America’s best November and its 71st straight month of record sales. The previous November record was set last year with 16,700 deliveries. Year-to-date sales have risen 2.9 percent to 187,018 vehicles despite a tightening premium market.
      November results were bolstered by demand for SUV models. Total SUV sales for the brand increased 22 percent over last November and 17 percent year-to-date. The Q5 was the volume leader with 4,187 vehicles sold. Sales of the Q3 rose 45 percent over last year to 1,613 vehicles. Q7 sales more than doubled with a 104 percent increase from last November to 2,605 vehicles.
      Demand for the A4 sedan remained robust with sales of 3,143 vehicles, a 30 percent increase for the month and a 19 percent increase year-to-date, notwithstanding a stagnant sedan market in the U.S.
      The A3 Sportback e-tron had its best sales month ever with 394 deliveries in November and 3,691 vehicles sold year-to-date.
      “On the heels of a successful November, we are on pace to achieve our seventh consecutive record sales year,” said Mark Del Rosso, chief operating officer, Audi of America. “We are confident that our momentum will continue in 2017, which promises to be one of the biggest launch years in Audi of America history.”
      AUDI US SNAPSHOT
      --MTD--
      --YTD--
      Model Line
      Nov '16 Actual
      Nov '15 Actual
      Yr/Yr % change
      Nov '16 YTD  Actual
      Nov '15 YTD Actual
      Yr/Yr % change
      A3
      2,063
      3,028
      -31.9%
      28,634
      32,732
      -12.5%
      A4
      3,143
      2,418
      30.0%
      30,678
      25,841
      18.7%
      A5
      482
      1,277
      -62.3%
      7,763
      11,934
      -35.0%
      A6
      1,532
      1,582
      -3.2%
      16,670
      20,394
      -18.3%
      A7
      576
      636
      -9.4%
      5,747
      6,880
      -16.5%
      A8
      343
      364
      -5.8%
      3,648
      4,566
      -20.1%
      allroad
      271
      301
      -10.0%
      1,989
      2,564
      -22.4%
      Q5
      4,187
      4,520
      -7.4%
      43,154
      45,949
      -6.1%
      Q7
      2,605
      1,279
      103.7%
      27,288
      17,806
      53.3%
      Q3
      1,613
      1,109
      45.4%
      18,001
      11,728
      53.5%
      R8
      63
      10
      530.0%
      654
      480
      36.3%
      TT
      240
      176
      36.4%
      2,792
      929
      200.5%
      Total Audi Sales
      17,118
      16,700
      2.5%
      187,018
      181,803
      2.9%
      Total CPO Sales
      3,705
      3,494
      6.0%
      41,923
      44,322
      -5.4%
       
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