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    Ford CEO Reveals F-150 Hybrid Is Coming In 2020

      There is a F-150 Hybrid Coming..

    A hybrid full-size pickup is on the horizon and will be wearing a blue oval badge.

     

    In an interview with NPR's All Things Considered, Ford CEO Mark Fields confirmed that a hybrid F-150 is coming.

     

    "Well, we do have plans to have a rear-wheel drive hybrid truck but the end of the decade. So yes, we're working on electrified F-series, and it's really around a conventional hybrid," said Fields.

     

    This follows comments made by Ford's development chief, Raj Nair last year when he said a rear-drive hybrid truck would come out in 2020. Nair also mentioned that hybrid SUVs are also on the way.

     

    Before you think this is the result of Ford and Toyota's partnership to do hybrid pickups in 2010, it isn't. In 2013, the two automakers dissolved their partnership and went their separate ways.

     

    Source: NPR

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    So Hopefully GM will use a beefed up VOLT system and do this to their Pickups. Both full size and mid size.

     

    Mid Size should already be in the works as this is a no brainer. City living folks would love a mid size pickup to us for their Home Depot runs. Mostly would be always pure electric.

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    if GM could "2mode" their 8speeds.. that'd be a no-brainer, then just have to decide if it's a v6 or v8 and where would the bater pack go.

     

    but to ford... did they help in any transmission electrification? would they just use a fusion hybrid setup? and i'm not really familiar with how the fusion's works.

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    I wish Chevy made a hybrid Colorado when I ordered mine so I could make a big stink about not choosing one.  ;)

     

    But then you would not be making a stink you would be bragging about the 40 miles petro free commute. :P;)

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    if GM could "2mode" their 8speeds.. that'd be a no-brainer, then just have to decide if it's a v6 or v8 and where would the bater pack go.

     

    but to ford... did they help in any transmission electrification? would they just use a fusion hybrid setup? and i'm not really familiar with how the fusion's works.

     

    ..... GM already has a 4-mode hybrid coming in the CT6. It's not being called a 4-mode, but that's essentially what it is.   And calling it a "6-speed" or "8-Speed" would be a misnomer since it is really a series of CVTs.  Cadillac is referring to it as an eCVT.

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    ^ Hopefully their eCVT is better than my current experience with CVTs which I say pass on. Give me a traditional 9 speed tranny any day.

     

    I was wrong, they are calling it an EVT (Electronic Variable Transmission).   You can read more in the article that I posted back during the LA Auto Show - Cadillac CT6 Hybrid

     

    But the basic gist is this - It is three CVTs with electric motors built in combined with 5 clutches that blend power from the electric motor and gas engine.  I wouldn't expect it to feel like a traditional CVT at all, yet it won't have shift points. 

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    ^ Hopefully their eCVT is better than my current experience with CVTs which I say pass on. Give me a traditional 9 speed tranny any day.

     

    I was wrong, they are calling it an EVT (Electronic Variable Transmission).   You can read more in the article that I posted back during the LA Auto Show - Cadillac CT6 Hybrid

     

    But the basic gist is this - It is three CVTs with electric motors built in combined with 5 clutches that blend power from the electric motor and gas engine.  I wouldn't expect it to feel like a traditional CVT at all, yet it won't have shift points. 

     

     

    Very cool, will read your posting again, some how I missed this info on it. Thanks Drew.

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    2020 model year isn't that far off. We're already into 2016's and it's very common to see next model year's vehicle in the previous year. It's basically 2016 already and they tend to put things out early so 2019. Three years isn't "a long way off" if you ask me. Much closer than any other truck at the moment so it's still a good thing to hear. 

     

    I think it is safe to say they are finishing up the 10spd first then the hybrid system to work with that, just my assumption. 

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    Hybrid pick up is a very smart move. 2020 seems like a long time though. And you have to offer 4 wheel drive. Put a pair of 50 hp electric motor on the front wheels at least.

     

    Any new model due to be released in 2020 is probably 1/3rd of the way through the development phase at this point.

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    They're so late to the party.  Everyone has already jumped on... and OFF this bandwagon.  Because it didn't work and no one wanted it.

     

    Silverado Hybrid

    Tahoe Hybrid

    Yukon Hybrid

    Escalade Hybrid

    Aspen Hybrid

    Durango Hybrid

     

    All relegated to the dustbin, where they belong.

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    They're so late to the party.  Everyone has already jumped on... and OFF this bandwagon.  Because it didn't work and no one wanted it.

     

    Silverado Hybrid

    Tahoe Hybrid

    Yukon Hybrid

    Escalade Hybrid

    Aspen Hybrid

    Durango Hybrid

     

    All relegated to the dustbin, where they belong.

     

    Ocnblu you know that they all ended up in the dustbin due to ignorance and lack of marketing by the companies. You design, build and bring out a 2 mode Hybrid that gets a constant 22 mpg and then do not bother to market and let the world know of it so of course it is going to die. 

     

    If you talk to people who own them, they are going to drive these auto's till the wheels fall off and parts are no longer available. They are well built and do what they were designed to do, increased MPG in a full size SUV.

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    Smallblock can achieve 22 MPG by itself without the crappy add-ons.

     

    Yes so take the current small block and add the hybrid components and get even higher MPG. Really you need to accept change, otherwise you are going to have a hard time with the future my friend.

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    Smallblock can achieve 22 MPG by itself without the crappy add-ons.

     

    So why not aim for better in the city and a little better on the highway?.... plus have outlets to run powertools (that's my main reason for interest in one)  The outlets in most cars don't have the amperage to run a power saw. 

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    Smallblock can achieve 22 MPG by itself without the crappy add-ons.

    Not around town it can't. That's the largest benefit from a hybrid. The initial getting the vehicle moving wastes a ton of fuel. 

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    A 22 mpg hybrid sucks though. That is why the 2-modes failed. If this F150 gets 30 mpg city, and the small block Silverado is getting 16, Chevy better be worried. And 30 mpg is a realistic target I think. They took a Fusion from 24 to 48 mpg a 200% increase, 30 mpg on an F150 should be easy.

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    A 22 mpg hybrid sucks though. That is why the 2-modes failed. If this F150 gets 30 mpg city, and the small block Silverado is getting 16, Chevy better be worried. And 30 mpg is a realistic target I think. They took a Fusion from 24 to 48 mpg a 200% increase, 30 mpg on an F150 should be easy.

     

    How much can someone get wrong in a single post?

     

    The Silverado Hybrid came out in 2008 and exactly ZERO V8 trucks at that time got 22mpg highway.  Not Ford, not Ram, not Nissan, not Toyota. In fact, the Silverado's city mpg beats the highway mpg of all of those I mentioned.   So, back then, it was a very large increase in fuel economy. The Silverado Hybrid was paired to the 6.0 liter V8 with 335 hp.   But you're comparing 8 year old technology to modern standards.  So let's put on our imagineering caps and think about this for a second.  The new 5.3 can already equal the old Silverado hybrid on highway MPG, it also has more horsepower than the old 6.0 liter.  Pairing the new 4-mode system to the 5.3 liter would do even better.  That's point one that you get wrong.

     

    Point two - The Fusion hybrid system will NOT be the same system used in the F-150... it would be absolutely DAFT to think that would be the case.  People complained about only a 6,100 lb tow rating in the Silverado hybrid, so how low do you think the tow rating in a Ford F-150 with a CVT would be?!  the F-150 hybrid system would have to be completely different from the Fusion and not use a CVT.... so you CANNOT extrapolate anything from the Fusion. 

     

    Point three - The two modes didn't sell because they were too expensive at the time, but the technology has been updated and lives on today, so it didn't "fail".  The system can be anything from a basic hybrid setup to a full plug-in system like the Volt.  The only determining factor is number of batteries you can pack into the vehicle. 

     

    Point four - The technology at GM is ready today, they just need to install it in their trucks.... it won't take till 2020 to do that.

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    They're so late to the party.  Everyone has already jumped on... and OFF this bandwagon.  Because it didn't work and no one wanted it.

     

    Silverado Hybrid

    Tahoe Hybrid

    Yukon Hybrid

    Escalade Hybrid

    Aspen Hybrid

    Durango Hybrid

     

    All relegated to the dustbin, where they belong.

     

    Agreed. The market for hybrid trucks just isn't there. I'll be shocked if the Ford hybrid makes any waves. Diesel is the way to go, and I believe there's a rumor Ford is working on that, too.

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    Ford hybrids up to now have been proven farces when it comes to ACTUALLY ACHIEVING the lofty numbers promised by the manufacturer.  They are silly wastes of time and they need to fall by the wayside like any other failed idea.

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    Ford hybrids up to now have been proven farces when it comes to ACTUALLY ACHIEVING the lofty numbers promised by the manufacturer.  They are silly wastes of time and they need to fall by the wayside like any other failed idea.

     

    The Fusion Hybrid is rated at 42 MPG combined... and it seems to get... 42mpg combined

    The Ford CMax Hybrid is rated at 40 MPG combined.... and it seems to get a bit over 40 mpg combined

     

    soo.... 

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    Are those links?  Are these written before or after the public shaming Ford was handed over their hybrid mileage debacle?  Should I go to them and find out?

     

    Haha... looks like the Fusion average is based on a SEVEN VEHICLE sample... and the C-Max sample is... did I read that right?  TWO VEHICLES?

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      Horsepower @ RPM: 150 @ 6,000 (gas); 51 @ 1,800 - 2,300 (electric motor); 192 (total output)
      Torque @ RPM: 139 @ 5,000 (gas); 151 @ 0 - 1,800 (electric motor)
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 45/51/47
      Curb Weight: 3,530 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Asan, South Korea
      Base Price: $35,300
      As Tested Price: $36,430 (Includes $975.00 Destination Charge)
      Options: 
      Carpeted Floor Mats - $135.00
    • By William Maley
      Despite being one of the best sellers in the luxury crossover class, the Lexus RX lacked something many competitors offered; a third-row option. Lexus rectified this a couple of years ago by stretching the RX's body and adding a third-row to create the RX L. I spent some time in the RX 350L Luxury back in the fall to find out if Lexus has another winner or if this a half-baked attempt.
      You can tell the difference between the standard RX to the longer L by looking for a floating roofline treatment. This is due to Lexus blacking part of the c-pillar to help disguise the added bulk. It doesn't fully work as looks somewhat half-baked. At least Lexus was more successful upfront where non F-Sport models get a new mesh insert to replace the horizontal slats, along with a revised bumper. When equipped with the Luxury Package, the RX is a plush and pleasant place to spend time. The leather upholstery feels nice to the touch and the use of contrasting colors (cream and brown in my tester) help make it feel special. Lexus has finally added a touchscreen for the RX's infotainment and it makes a huge difference. Gone are the litany of issues I have noted in previous models such as, Being precise with your finger movements when selecting an item Becoming very distracting to use when on the move Not the most intuitive controller Now using Lexus Enform or Apple CarPlay/Android Auto is not an exercise in frustration, but one of ease. My only complaint is that I wished Lexus moved the screen slightly more forwards. It is quite a reach to use the touchscreen. Those sitting in the second row will not have much to complain about as head and legroom are plentiful for most passengers. The same cannot be said for the third-row. Getting back here is difficult as there is not enough a gap when the second-row seat is moved forward. Once back here, space is non-existent with your head touching the headliner and legroom from nothing to something bearable depending on where the second-row is set. The one upside to the longer RX is cargo space. With the third-row seat folded, you get about seven extra cubic feet of space compared to standard RX. Power comes from a 3.5L V6 used in several Lexus and Toyota vehicles.  For the RX 350L, it produces 290 horsepower and 267 pound-feet of torque. My tester came with all-wheel drive, but front-wheel drive is standard. Performance is adequate as you'll be able to keep up with traffic or make a pass with no issue. Those wanting a bit more performance should look at something like the upcoming Acura MDX or Volvo XC90. Comfort is still a key hallmark to the RX. Bumps and potholes become mere ripples when driven over. There is also a noticeable lack of road and wind coming inside. The RX 350L feels like a stop-gap solution until Lexus finishes up their upcoming three-row crossover due out within the next couple of years. The third-row isn't all useful for carrying passengers and is best to fold down to expand cargo space. If you need a third-row, there are much better options such as the Volvo XC90. But if you really want an RX, stick with the standard two-row version and pocket the cash you saved for something nice. Disclaimer: Lexus Provided the RX 350L, Insurance, and One Tank of Gas
      Year: 2020
      Make: Lexus
      Model: RX
      Trim: 350L Luxury
      Engine: 3.5L DOHC 24-valve with VVT-iW V6
      Driveline: Eight-Speed Automatic, All-Wheel Drive
      Horsepower @ RPM: 290 @ 6,300
      Torque @ RPM: 263 @ 4,700
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 18/25/21
      Curb Weight: 4,597 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Miyawaka, Fukuoka, Japan
      Base Price: $54,700
      As Tested Price: $63,540 (Includes $1,025.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      12.3" Navigation System/Mark Levinson 15-Speaker Premium Audio System - $3,365.00
      Blind Spot Monitor with Intuitive Parking Assist, Panoramic View Monitor, and Rear Cross Traffic Alert Braking - $1,865.00
      Running Boards - $640.00
      Color Head-Up Display - $600.00
      Second-Row Captain's Chairs - $405.00
      All-Weather Floor Liners with Cargo Mat - $330.00
      Cold Weather Package - $315.00
      Mudguards - $155.00
      Door Edge Guards - $140.00

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    • By William Maley
      Despite being one of the best sellers in the luxury crossover class, the Lexus RX lacked something many competitors offered; a third-row option. Lexus rectified this a couple of years ago by stretching the RX's body and adding a third-row to create the RX L. I spent some time in the RX 350L Luxury back in the fall to find out if Lexus has another winner or if this a half-baked attempt.
      You can tell the difference between the standard RX to the longer L by looking for a floating roofline treatment. This is due to Lexus blacking part of the c-pillar to help disguise the added bulk. It doesn't fully work as looks somewhat half-baked. At least Lexus was more successful upfront where non F-Sport models get a new mesh insert to replace the horizontal slats, along with a revised bumper. When equipped with the Luxury Package, the RX is a plush and pleasant place to spend time. The leather upholstery feels nice to the touch and the use of contrasting colors (cream and brown in my tester) help make it feel special. Lexus has finally added a touchscreen for the RX's infotainment and it makes a huge difference. Gone are the litany of issues I have noted in previous models such as, Being precise with your finger movements when selecting an item Becoming very distracting to use when on the move Not the most intuitive controller Now using Lexus Enform or Apple CarPlay/Android Auto is not an exercise in frustration, but one of ease. My only complaint is that I wished Lexus moved the screen slightly more forwards. It is quite a reach to use the touchscreen. Those sitting in the second row will not have much to complain about as head and legroom are plentiful for most passengers. The same cannot be said for the third-row. Getting back here is difficult as there is not enough a gap when the second-row seat is moved forward. Once back here, space is non-existent with your head touching the headliner and legroom from nothing to something bearable depending on where the second-row is set. The one upside to the longer RX is cargo space. With the third-row seat folded, you get about seven extra cubic feet of space compared to standard RX. Power comes from a 3.5L V6 used in several Lexus and Toyota vehicles.  For the RX 350L, it produces 290 horsepower and 267 pound-feet of torque. My tester came with all-wheel drive, but front-wheel drive is standard. Performance is adequate as you'll be able to keep up with traffic or make a pass with no issue. Those wanting a bit more performance should look at something like the upcoming Acura MDX or Volvo XC90. Comfort is still a key hallmark to the RX. Bumps and potholes become mere ripples when driven over. There is also a noticeable lack of road and wind coming inside. The RX 350L feels like a stop-gap solution until Lexus finishes up their upcoming three-row crossover due out within the next couple of years. The third-row isn't all useful for carrying passengers and is best to fold down to expand cargo space. If you need a third-row, there are much better options such as the Volvo XC90. But if you really want an RX, stick with the standard two-row version and pocket the cash you saved for something nice. Disclaimer: Lexus Provided the RX 350L, Insurance, and One Tank of Gas
      Year: 2020
      Make: Lexus
      Model: RX
      Trim: 350L Luxury
      Engine: 3.5L DOHC 24-valve with VVT-iW V6
      Driveline: Eight-Speed Automatic, All-Wheel Drive
      Horsepower @ RPM: 290 @ 6,300
      Torque @ RPM: 263 @ 4,700
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 18/25/21
      Curb Weight: 4,597 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Miyawaka, Fukuoka, Japan
      Base Price: $54,700
      As Tested Price: $63,540 (Includes $1,025.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      12.3" Navigation System/Mark Levinson 15-Speaker Premium Audio System - $3,365.00
      Blind Spot Monitor with Intuitive Parking Assist, Panoramic View Monitor, and Rear Cross Traffic Alert Braking - $1,865.00
      Running Boards - $640.00
      Color Head-Up Display - $600.00
      Second-Row Captain's Chairs - $405.00
      All-Weather Floor Liners with Cargo Mat - $330.00
      Cold Weather Package - $315.00
      Mudguards - $155.00
      Door Edge Guards - $140.00
    • By David
      Since Ford Motor Company reported a complete Q4 / 2020 fiscal year report with a loss of $2.8 Billion but a doubling of R&D on EVs to $22 Billion from $11 Billion and a $7 Billion for EV Autonomous driving, the auto reporters are asking this very question: Is this a Shot across gm's bow or is it targeted more broadly across the whole industry as everyone wants to take sales away or greatly slow down Tesla.
      Tesla's valuation appears to be based on investors putting money with new technology seems to be driving changes of the future. 
      gm has now committed to moving into the technology camp with a solid date of when new ICE auto's will no longer be produced as the whole portfolio will change over to EV's. Ford also is now committing to this same strategy. This now makes one wonder about the rest of the auto industry.
      Stellantis CEO did an interview with Forbes that has put cold water on Peugeot coming to the US in the near term future as he wants to invest in the existing US name brands and grow their 12.7% market share. He also said that Stellantis has the manufacturing power and EV technology, but getting it into the hands of everyone is the concern at reasonable prices. Stellantis CEO says this is in the hands of the various global governments as he wants cleaner air and believes diesel the dirtiest of fuels will die off before regular petrol and where dictated by governments such as China and Europe will see a faster change over than other countries. Yet with the change in administration in the US, he says this could move the Stellantis brands to move into the full EV camp at a future date.
      Then we have small countries that have decided to make a major change in moving the country into EVs way sooner than other places and killing ICE sales like Thailand. This will allow local Thai startups to compete for the first time with international companies that also do not have anything in the market yet. 
      With a large range of battery plants coming online over the next 18 months, the move to EVs could happen at a pace that took decades for ICE in the early 1900's.
      So this brings this back to the original question, Is Fords Doubling commitment to EV's and moving ICE into the last generation like GM a shot across GM's bow or a shot at the whole industry to say, look at us, we are moving into a Technology driven auto company and our stock should be much higher like Tesla's.
      Currently gm is valued at just under $80 Billion, Ford is valued at $40 Billion, Tesla is valued at $807 Billion, Toyota is valued at $155.5 Billion, Stellantis is valued at $50.5 Billion, Daimler is valued at $71 Billion, BMW valued at $46 and VW is valued at $90.7 Billion and while there are plenty of other auto companies, one has to wonder what Ford is focused on with the drastic change and speeding up of moving to EVs as a complete global portfolio.
      Sound off and discuss how, what, where and when you think this will have it's big affect.
      Charged EVs | Is Ford’s increase in EV investment a shot across GM’s bow? - Charged EVs
      Stellantis CEO Reveals Peugeot U.S. Fate, Job Security, EV Conflict (forbes.com)
      Future Toyotas, Stellantis, batteries and EVs - the week | Automotive Industry Comment | just-auto (just-auto.com)
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