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    Honda Ponders Whether It Should Do A Odyssey Hybrid

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      Chrysler may not be the only player with a hybrid minivan

    There could be some competition for the Chrysler Pacifica Plug-In Hybrid. Speaking with Wards Auto, Honda's lead r&d engineer Tom Sladek hinted that Odyssey minivan could be getting a hybrid powertrain.

    “The electrification initiative is definitely coming, but on which products and which timing is not 100% clear yet,” said Sladek.

    “We just released the hybrid (Acura) MDX so that powertrain could be considered in the future, although we can’t comment on particular plans.”

    That line gives us some idea that Honda is looking at possibly using this powertrain in other vehicles. Why the Odyssey? The main reason is that both vehicles utilize the same platform - known as 2SL according to Wards.

    The MDX Sport Hybrid uses a 3.0L V6 and three electric motors (one in the transmission and two for the rear wheels) to produce a combined output of 321 horsepower. While the MDX emphasizes performance with its hybrid powertrain, the Odyssey will likely focus more on fuel economy. 

    Honda has set a goal of having two-thirds of its global sales to be electrified by 2030.

    Source: Wards Auto

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    Drove the Pacifica Hybrid, it is astonishingly fast for a minivan... or a hybrid.... or a minivan hybrid. 

    Drove the MDX hybrid the same day.  While it was good, it didn't leave me with the wow factor that the Pacifica did mostly due to price. 

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    impressed that you found an actual pacifica hybrid.  they have been sparse hitting the lots.  Its entered my mind as a next vehicle but I think i might lament the loss of sto n go.

    so it drove well?

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    1 hour ago, regfootball said:

    impressed that you found an actual pacifica hybrid.  they have been sparse hitting the lots.  Its entered my mind as a next vehicle but I think i might lament the loss of sto n go.

    so it drove well?

    Being media has its perks... sometimes the manufacturers bring the cars to you.  Yes, it was pretty impressive, but the sticker was rather eye popping too.  I will say that it was probably one of the few minivans I could see driving as a daily without being embarrassed about driving a minivan. 

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    Interesting, I just hope they do not go so crazy on fuel mileage that they make it a total snooze.

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    1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Being media has its perks... sometimes the manufacturers bring the cars to you.  Yes, it was pretty impressive, but the sticker was rather eye popping too.  I will say that it was probably one of the few minivans I could see driving as a daily without being embarrassed about driving a minivan. 

    Yes I've heard the MSRP on them is silly big.

    Since I've gotten used to having a van, i really appreciate the space, and others i know who have gotten vans end up becoming repeat van owners.  They get used to the room and space.  I have gotten accustomed to the honesty of a minivan.  Big box on wheels.  The large SUV's when i drive them all seem so contrived, think Lambda, they really are close to a van but do everything they can to not be a van.

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    They should have a hybrid Odyssey, Pilot, CR-V, MDX, RDX, etc.  Eventually it is all going to go that way and a 4 cylinder with an electric motor can move an Odyssey, especially a turbo 4 hydrid.  None of these car makers are hitting 54.5 mpg with a 3.5 liter V6 as their volume engine.

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    Since the CRV hybrid was already recently announced in China, with the same motor as the Accord, it shouldn't be too long before it arrives here.

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    11 hours ago, regfootball said:

    Yes I've heard the MSRP on them is silly big.

    Since I've gotten used to having a van, i really appreciate the space, and others i know who have gotten vans end up becoming repeat van owners.  They get used to the room and space.  I have gotten accustomed to the honesty of a minivan.  Big box on wheels.  The large SUV's when i drive them all seem so contrived, think Lambda, they really are close to a van but do everything they can to not be a van.

    Big difference between a minivan and full size SUV is the comfort. Say what you will but no MiniVan has been able to match the comfort of my Escalade or room especially around the feet and pedals. This is true for me even in the latest MiniVans. They have a long way to go to have truly road trip worth seats and room for the driver. 

    Yes they do excel at having cargo room.

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    4 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Big difference between a minivan and full size SUV is the comfort. Say what you will but no MiniVan has been able to match the comfort of my Escalade or room especially around the feet and pedals. This is true for me even in the latest MiniVans. They have a long way to go to have truly road trip worth seats and room for the driver. 

    Yes they do excel at having cargo room.

    That and towing ability...a fullsize SUV will tow anything reasonable you throw at it...

    Friend wants me to go look at a very clean 2004 Suburban that is supposedly in really great shape with low miles for four grand. Methinks I would rather have a pick up truck...but I have always liked the suburban.

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    7 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    That and towing ability...a fullsize SUV will tow anything reasonable you throw at it...

    Friend wants me to go look at a very clean 2004 Suburban that is supposedly in really great shape with low miles for four grand. Methinks I would rather have a pick up truck...but I have always liked the suburban.

    I still own my 1994 suburban, awesome and have no plans to ever get rid of it.

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    1 hour ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    ...nor should there be!

    Right! Talk about cheap to insure and of course no auto payments. Crazy to always have an auto payment, but my brother in law only does 2yr leases. He sees nothing wrong with life long auto payments. <_<

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    26 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Right! Talk about cheap to insure and of course no auto payments. Crazy to always have an auto payment, but my brother in law only does 2yr leases. He sees nothing wrong with life long auto payments. <_<

    I hate car payments with a passion-most of my adult life I had company vehicles of one sort or another, and I usually bought inexpensive used cars and drove them until they dropped.

    Ironically, the most expensive car I ever bought was the Jetta TDI....and I got everything I paid for it back from VW after 56,000 plus miles....so it worked out really well.

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    Just saw the test mule......don't see these vans all cut up like this.........

    No phone on me either......poop.....

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    9 hours ago, daves87rs said:

    Just saw the test mule......don't see these vans all cut up like this.........

    No phone on me either......poop.....

    Interesting...

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    4 hours ago, daves87rs said:

    Yeah, part camo, different colors.....

    Hell, camouflage and multiple color body panels is half the vehicles in rural Ohio. Did it have a gun rack, a dead deer or chewing tobacco streaming down the drivers door?

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    On 6/7/2017 at 8:16 AM, dfelt said:

    Big difference between a minivan and full size SUV is the comfort. Say what you will but no MiniVan has been able to match the comfort of my Escalade or room especially around the feet and pedals. This is true for me even in the latest MiniVans. They have a long way to go to have truly road trip worth seats and room for the driver. 

    Yes they do excel at having cargo room.

    I was sort of thinking compared more to the Highlanders of the world.  There is no match for the Escalades and Yukons of the world.  that is true.

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    20 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Hell, camouflage and multiple color body panels is half the vehicles in rural Ohio. Did it have a gun rack, a dead deer or chewing tobacco streaming down the drivers door?

    Now that would have been cool...

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    11 hours ago, regfootball said:

    I was sort of thinking compared more to the Highlanders of the world.  There is no match for the Escalades and Yukons of the world.  that is true.

    Agree!

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      GM is not denying any of the information in the tweets from Trump. 
      Update: General Motors has confirmed that talks are ongoing.

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    • By Drew Dowdell
      In a series of tweets today, Trump announced that General Motors will be selling their Lordstown plant to electric truck maker Workhorse.  Lordstown was shut down in March of this year and formerly built the Chevrolet Cruze.  The details of the plant sale have not yet been announced.
      Workhorse is a Cincinnati based company who builds EV pickups with a built in range extender, similar in concept to the Chevrolet Volt.  Workhorse's sole model is the W-15, capable of driving up to 80 miles on a charge before a gasoline powered range extender kicks in. It uses two motors to provide all-wheel drive. The only configuration available is an extended cab with 6.5 foot bed. They can tow up to 5,000 lbs and have a payload of 2,200 lbs.  Pricing starts at $54,500 before tax credits. 
      Workhorse intends to start production for the retail market sometime in 2019.  Fleet orders have already started. 
      GM is not denying any of the information in the tweets from Trump. 
      Update: General Motors has confirmed that talks are ongoing.
    • By Drew Dowdell
      American Honda Announces April Sales Results
       
      May 1, 2019 Civic continues to lead U.S. passenger car sales, driven by strong retail performance Honda truck sales rise 2.7% in April as Passport adds strength and CR-V and Pilot maintain momentum Acura trucks also gain, with RDX surging 17.3% on the way to an overall increase of 6.2% for the month  American Honda Total
      125,775
      +0.1%
      Cars
      57,452
      -3.4%
      Trucks
      68,323
      +3.1%
      Total
      114,088
      +0.2%
      Cars
      54,030
      -2.4%
      Trucks
      60.058
      +2.7%
      Total
      11,687
      -1.7%
      Cars
      3,433
      -16.6%
      Trucks
      8,265
      +6.2%
       

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