Nissan Plans The Expansion Of The Nismo Lineup

Eh, as with all things, it depends. If you live in an apartment and you're goal is simply the lowest cost per mile, buy a Pruis and we'll see you again in 250k miles. But comparing the most popular EV sedans today to a Pruis isn't really a fair comparison. The EVs have more features, tech, and performance. A Model-3 or Ioniq 6 will vastly out perform a Pruis, and the Ioniq 6, especially after the update, has a nicer interior and more compliant ride. Both of those EVs are more comparable in performance to something like an Acura TLX 3.0 Turbo or BMW M340i, both of which prefer premium. Now, if you're in an area with few chargers, then you'll need to do research.  In my area, there are lots of chargers and they all have different rates, often at different times of the day.  One advantage that charger operators have is that they can vary their rates based on time of day.  So if everything in my life were the same except I was living in an apartment instead of a house, I would look at which chargers had the lowest rates.  The slow-ish 6KW chargers across from the office I'm in today are 11/c/kWh right now.  That's cheaper than I can get at home.  A lot of the mid-speed chargers around me are 25/c/kWh, still quite reasonable and would make a Model-3 about the same cost per mile as a Pruis. The other thing to consider is vehicle size.  Because of the non-liner way we calculate fuel economy in this country, bigger gas vehicles do worse than their numbers seem. A Tesla Model-3 will cost between 8c and 13c per mile to fuel at normal Supercharger rates. Fuel Cost $3.50   MPG Cost Per Mile Cost per 100 miles 15 $0.23 $23.33 20 $0.18 $17.50 25 $0.14 $14.00 30 $0.12 $11.67 35 $0.10 $10.00 40 $0.09 $8.75 45 $0.08 $7.78 You can see why I picked the Pruis as the comparison model. At 45 mpg, it's the only vehicle that comes close to the cost per mile of a Tesla at cheap supercharging. Now, comparing your Navigator to David's EV9, the savings start to stack up. The EV9 does 99 MPGe City and 88 MPGe highway, burning on average 46kw per 100 miles. Even at 60c/kw charging which is the most expensive I can find in my area, David is looking at $24.60 to go 100 miles, basically the same you and I would pay to fill our trucks.  But David can almost certainly find cheaper charging than that. If he charged at the building across from where I am today for 11c/kw, he'd pay $4.51.  At a more common 25c/kW, he'd pay $10.25. If he charges at the 25c place and commutes 300 miles a week, he's looking at $30.75 a week. You in your Navigator and me in my Avalanche aren't getting anywhere for $30.75 a week.    

So one, cannot download the Movie, so cannot see how many gallons or anything, I am glad you can fuel so fast. My reality is that it takes much longer to fuel my ESV than most people and it is amusing how everyone assumes everyone drives autos with their tiny tanks and fuels all the same speed and rate. End result, even for me, gas station days are coming to an end. I fuel the ESV every 4 to 5 weeks now, charge at home and even on road trips in the EV, I am able to find a fast charger near where I am stopping to eat or visit and have not had any waste of time at a gas station. Drew pretty much hits all the points well about this.

Have to laugh at this, in Texas. Seems to be pretty standard there for people driving up and attempting to go over a K rail. LOL

It's pointless to own an EV if you're paying public charging prices. There's no fuel savings and it still costs a fair amount more to purchase.   Of course! I'm all for EVs in the right situation and, to me, the only right situation is having a home charger. I would never consider an EV if I couldn't charge at home. Public rates are far too high.  I'm not trying to make some anti-EV post. This was more about David's absurd exaggeration of how long it takes to put gasoline in a vehicle. 

To me, the fill-up time argument is becoming rather pointless.  We are rapidly approaching the time where you're going to be able to charge while you're out and about doing other things, so even if you live in an apartment, you can charge in your daily routine. The major grocery stores in my area are getting charging stations. Walmart is putting in charging stations everywhere. The office complex where one of my clients is has two separate charging stations, 14 plugs total. There's a charging station at the YMCA I go to. There's two, a small one and a big Tesla one at the IKEA. Costco is rolling them out.  One of our gas chains, Sheetz, is partnered with Tesla and their larger locations have them.  I know that I can from my house in Pittsburgh to my relative's house in Manassas Virginia 200 miles away with several chargers on route. I'm probably going to be converting my dryer outlet to the correct plug here soon so I can get test vehicles from the manufacturers, so I'll just charge at home. Is that the case everywhere? Of course not. It will be the case in the areas of higher population though. Can you put gas in faster? Sure. Will it matter? Only once in a while on road trips if you're trying to Cannonball Run it.  Most of the time you'll plug in at home and go inside and sleep/eat/watch tv. If you live in an apartment, you'll fill up while you're getting groceries or at work or out with friend in the hip part of town.  I can be inside, have my hot pocket microwaved, and on my couch in a lot less time than 6 minutes and 31 seconds.