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    Under Consideration: Full-Size SUV for Ram


    • Ram Looks At A Full-Size SUV To Take On GM and Ford

    Ram is putting serious thought into building a full-size SUV to take on the likes the Chevrolet Suburban, Ford Expedition, and GMC Yukon XL.

     

    Fiat Chrysler Automobiles CEO Sergio Marchionne expressed his interest during a call announcing the third-quarter financial results.

     

    The large SUV segment is “the near-exclusive use of some others. We have a reasonable chance of getting at least part of that market,” said Marchionne.

     

    Marchionne explained that Ram begins to redesign its pickup lineup and add production, space for such a vehicle begins to open up.

     

    “I think we have a unique opportunity with renewal of the pickup line, with the powertrains we selected, to significantly increase output. We will also be exploring, as a result of that investment, some other segments.”

     

    Now there is a slight issue to this vehicle for Ram. Jeep is currently working on three-row SUV named the Grand Wagoneer that has been pushed back till 2019. Marchionne says the possible Ram SUV will not compete with the Grand Wagoneer as the latter model will take on the likes of the Range Rover.

     

    “I don’t think anybody who buys a large SUV is confusing it with a Range Rover,” said Marchionne.

     

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)

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    Well, it is not cheap by any means either. You still need an all new frame and suspension, and mostly new body.  Some shared components, but you still have to develop and tool it.

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    Well, it is not cheap by any means either. You still need an all new frame and suspension, and mostly new body.  Some shared components, but you still have to develop and tool it.

     

    That depends. Any reason it couldn't ride on the same frame as a crew cab pickup? might need stiffer springs but nothing drastic in the suspension.  Front clip, doors, dash, seats, ... everything forward of the backside of the second row could all carry over. 

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    Well, it is not cheap by any means either. You still need an all new frame and suspension, and mostly new body.  Some shared components, but you still have to develop and tool it.

     

    That depends. Any reason it couldn't ride on the same frame as a crew cab pickup? might need stiffer springs but nothing drastic in the suspension.  Front clip, doors, dash, seats, ... everything forward of the backside of the second row could all carry over. 

     

    Full Size SUV that would have a Diesel, something us GM fans have wanted like FOREVER!

     

    They could get my business if they did it right with a Diesel. That would truly take business from GM and Ford.

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    I'm more interested in where Sergio is planning to get the production capacity. Right now they're desperate for it, never mind a few years down the road.

    And yes, I could definitely see the appeal of a turbodiesel large SUV. Figure even 2-300 pounds of weight savings off my current truck for a Tahoe-sized jobbie, and keep the air suspension.

    Hmmmm.

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    I'm more interested in where Sergio is planning to get the production capacity. Right now they're desperate for it, never mind a few years down the road.

    And yes, I could definitely see the appeal of a turbodiesel large SUV. Figure even 2-300 pounds of weight savings off my current truck for a Tahoe-sized jobbie, and keep the air suspension.

    Hmmmm.

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    I don't know what the cost would have been to certify it for sale in Canada or the US. You'd probably have to do crash regs and whatnot. I'm not sure what the rules are like in Mexico. I do know that they have had a bunch of stuff that is not available elsewhere. But these days I dunno.

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    I don't know what the cost would have been to certify it for sale in Canada or the US. You'd probably have to do crash regs and whatnot. I'm not sure what the rules are like in Mexico. I do know that they have had a bunch of stuff that is not available elsewhere. But these days I dunno.

    There was a 2dr Ramcharger exclusive to Mexico in the late 90s, but nothing since then.  Those more recent 4dr ones above are aftermarket conversions or Photoshop fun...

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    I'll have to disagree with you on that one, although it might take time. After all, Ram was in pretty dire straits with pickup sales figures not so long ago. If they base it off their next truck and that truck is similarly innovative, capable, and good-looking then it will work. Actually, they may already have a ready-made customer base of current Ram truck owners. I could see them carving out a reasonable chunk of the marketplace (15-20%) with Gen 1.

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    I'll have to disagree with you on that one, although it might take time. After all, Ram was in pretty dire straits with pickup sales figures not so long ago. If they base it off their next truck and that truck is similarly innovative, capable, and good-looking then it will work. Actually, they may already have a ready-made customer base of current Ram truck owners. I could see them carving out a reasonable chunk of the marketplace (15-20%) with Gen 1.

     

    I think they'd immediately jump to 3rd place knocking the Titan Armada and Sequoia down. 

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    I'll have to disagree with you on that one, although it might take time. After all, Ram was in pretty dire straits with pickup sales figures not so long ago. If they base it off their next truck and that truck is similarly innovative, capable, and good-looking then it will work. Actually, they may already have a ready-made customer base of current Ram truck owners. I could see them carving out a reasonable chunk of the marketplace (15-20%) with Gen 1.

    I'll have to disagree with you on that one, although it might take time. After all, Ram was in pretty dire straits with pickup sales figures not so long ago. If they base it off their next truck and that truck is similarly innovative, capable, and good-looking then it will work. Actually, they may already have a ready-made customer base of current Ram truck owners. I could see them carving out a reasonable chunk of the marketplace (15-20%) with Gen 1.

    Next truck isn't due for years. Word is 2021.

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    If that's true then perhaps they should just take the plunge and do it ASAP. After all, it's not like the segment doesn't have its fair share of fossilized platforms. Really low-hanging fruit for conquest sales, right?

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    I'll have to disagree with you on that one, although it might take time. After all, Ram was in pretty dire straits with pickup sales figures not so long ago. If they base it off their next truck and that truck is similarly innovative, capable, and good-looking then it will work. Actually, they may already have a ready-made customer base of current Ram truck owners. I could see them carving out a reasonable chunk of the marketplace (15-20%) with Gen 1.

     

    I think they'd immediately jump to 3rd place knocking the Titan Armada and Sequoia down.

    Definitely those. I could see them putting a scare in Ford as well.

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    If that's true then perhaps they should just take the plunge and do it ASAP. After all, it's not like the segment doesn't have its fair share of fossilized platforms. Really low-hanging fruit for conquest sales, right?

    It's well know that fossilized platform, which beat a brand new offering ( see C&D comparo ) is being replaced soon - before this might be Ram SUV would make its debut. And an like its Yukon/Suburban competition, that fossilized SUV is not on a Least Reliable List either.

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    Uh... did you ever think I, like Drew, was referring to the Nissan?

    LOL@troll dragging brand of choice into argument

    Then why speak plural ( fossilized platforms ) if talking about Nissan?

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    Uh... did you ever think I, like Drew, was referring to the Nissan?

    LOL@troll dragging brand of choice into argument

    Then why speak plural ( fossilized platforms ) if talking about Nissan?
    Why you save quote, man? All you're doing is saving proof that you were putting words into my mouth. That's trolling, no ifs, ands, or buts.

    Also, Toyota platform? Kinda ancient too, wot?

    Yeesh

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    Uh... did you ever think I, like Drew, was referring to the Nissan?

    LOL@troll dragging brand of choice into argument

    Then why speak plural ( fossilized platforms ) if talking about Nissan?
    Why you save quote, man? All you're doing is saving proof that you were putting words into my mouth. That's trolling, no ifs, ands, or buts.

    Also, Toyota platform? Kinda ancient too, wot?

    Yeesh

    Save quote because it's proof of what was said and cannot be edited to show words were not put in your mouth.

    Do like how your story changes now to now include Toyota.

    Yeesh

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      9%
        Caravan
      10,770
      10,955
      -2%
      10,770
      10,955
      -2%
        Durango
      4,707
      6,001
      -22%
      4,707
      6,001
      -22%
        DODGE  BRAND
      40,109
      48,302
      -17%
      40,109
      48,302
      -17%
        Ram P/U
      33,769
      32,564
      4%
      33,769
      32,564
      4%
        Cargo Van
      0
      2
      -100%
      0
      2
      -100%
        ProMaster Van
      3,351
      2,342
      43%
      3,351
      2,342
      43%
        ProMaster City
      925
      1,156
      -20%
      925
      1,156
      -20%
        RAM BRAND
      38,045
      36,064
      5%
      38,045
      36,064
      5%
        Giulia
      70
      0
      New
      70
      0
      New
        Alfa 4C 
      38
      68
      -44%
      38
      68
      -44%
        ALFA BRAND
      108
      68
      59%
      108
      68
      59%
        500
      1,218
      981
      24%
      1,218
      981
      24%
        500L
      106
      357
      -70%
      106
      357
      -70%
        500X
      600
      1,041
      -42%
      600
      1,041
      -42%
        Spider
      240
      0
      New
      240
      0
      New
        FIAT BRAND
      2,164
      2,379
      -9%
      2,164
      2,379
      -9%
        TOTAL FCA US LLC
      152,218
      171,352
      -11%
      152,218
      171,352
      -11%
            Total Car & MPV
      37,815
      53,893
      -30%
      37,815
      53,893
      -30%
            Total UV's
      76,358
      81,395
      -6%
      76,358
      81,395
      -6%
            Total Truck & LCV
      38,045
      36,064
      5%
      38,045
      36,064
      5%
                        MASERATI BRAND
      889
      525
      69%
      889
      525
      69%
                      [1] The Maserati Brand is distributed in the United States by Maserati North America, Inc., an indirect wholly owned subsidiary of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles N.V. All other brands listed in this release are distributed by FCA US LLC.
    • By William Maley
      As the Ford Falcon and current Holden Commodore head off into the sunset, Australian police departments are wondering what should replace them. V6 models were used for patrol duty, while V8 models would be used for pursuits. One possibility is the Chrysler 300.
      “With the going away of Australian manufacturing, from potential fleet customers we’ve had a lot of enquires for the 300,” said Steve Zanlunghi, head of FCA Australia to Car Advice.
      “Specifically we’ve had the police come to us, asking for a bid, if it would make sense.”
      Zanlinghi didn't mention whether the police were interested in the V6 or the 300 SRT with a 6.4L V8. Our possible guess is that the police are interested in both.
      The Chrysler 300 isn't the only vehicle under consideration by Australia's police forces. The Ford Mustang is a possible contender for replacing the V8 Commodore and Falcon. Both Kia and Holden have been in talks about having the Sorento and next Commodore be used for police duty. Meanwhile, the Queensland Police have opted for the Hyundai Sonata to take the place of their current six-cylinder fleet. The turbo version is under consideration for possible pursuit duty.
      Source: CarAdvice
      Pic Credit: William Maley for Cheers & Gears

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