Cubical-aka-Moltar

Fun with a broken Jeep seat

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Two weeks ago, I driving along in downtown Hell (Phoenix) on a pleasant, sunny 115 degree day when I hear a loud SNAP, and my seat lurches backward and to the right ('00 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 101k miles). Got home, studied the situation, realized the driver's seat track was sheared off right below the seat attachment point. All the power functions work fine.

Did some research, found it this is a common problem with WJs. Found several write ups about this on jeepforum.com and other forums. Started fiddling with it, managed to unbolt the 4 bolts that held the track. After leaning the seat back, I realized the seat frame (which the track bolts to) is also cracked. The most difficult thing so far has been getting the power connector disconnected from the power seat motor.

After unbolting

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This is the electrical connector that proved quite frustrating:

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Both shears are visible in this pic, to the right--crack in the silver seat frame and the black track below and to the left of it..(right above the red tag is the sheared black track piece)

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Seat out of the car

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Floor grubby...need to vacuum

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Considering I have nearly zero mechanical skill, this was quite the achievement for me... :)

Time to find a new seat and frame...found some on ebay...need to see if some yards in the PHX area have them...lots of passenger side ones to be found online, but few driver's side ones.

I also realized today is the 9yr anniversary of the day I bought it new.

To be continued...

Rob

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Isn't it fun and rewarding to do the work yourself? Be warned, it's infectious. :P :wink:

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Isn't it fun and rewarding to do the work yourself? Be warned, it's infectious. :P :wink:

It would be more fun with an air conditioned garage. In a carport in AZ in the summer, not. much. fun.

I want to replace the driver's inside door panel eventually also, since the vinyl arm rest is cracked.

Rob

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It would be more fun with a garage or at least a level driveway in my case, haha. But the Intrepid won't fit in the garage and my driveway is a hill...

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looks like quite a task... hope you find another seat.... in the meant time...lawnchair? :lol:

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looks like quite a task... hope you find another seat.... in the meant time...lawnchair? :lol:

Thought about that.... I've been driving the 500SEL the last 2 weeks. 4800lbs, V8, 12mpg, 180k miles, 50 miles a day commute...

Rob

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Hey get some picks of the whole Jeep when you're done with it!

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Isn't it fun and rewarding to do the work yourself? Be warned, it's infectious. :P :wink:

Once you start, you'll never go to a mechanic again.

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Hmm, I'd call this something of a safety defect. Have you checked for recalls on it?

NHTSA gets kinda nasty about stuff like this.

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Someone has a lot of French Fries under their seat ... Less fries and the seat might still be working ... :P

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I didn't realize 2 1/3 = "a lot" now.

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Someone has a lot of French Fries under their seat ... Less fries and the seat might still be working ... :P

Ha ha....haven't vacuumed in there in a while. I'm not that fat... 6'0", 230. I need to take off 30-40 lbs though.

I've read about people who's 110lb wife drove them every day for 6 years and the seat broke...I think it's a defect.

Rob

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Ha ha....haven't vacuumed in there in a while. I'm not that fat... 6'0", 230. I need to take off 30-40 lbs though.

I've read about people who's 110lb wife drove them every day for 6 years and the seat broke...I think it's a defect.

Rob

I'm just funnin ya. I'm a neat freak, I couldn't have that ... Germans like order ... :P

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Hmm, I'd call this something of a safety defect. Have you checked for recalls on it?

NHTSA gets kinda nasty about stuff like this.

+1, I wouldn't even want to be in a 15 mph crash with a seat like that. Have you checked the passenger seat, moltar?

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It would be more fun with an air conditioned garage. In a carport in AZ in the summer, not. much. fun.

I want to replace the driver's inside door panel eventually also, since the vinyl arm rest is cracked.

Rob

Yes, working on cars in the summer in AZ is definately not fun. I've had to do it a few times. Why does it seem like everything breaks in the middle of summer instead of the nice cool months?

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Yes, working on cars in the summer in AZ is definately not fun. I've had to do it a few times. Why does it seem like everything breaks in the middle of summer instead of the nice cool months?

The heat puts a strain on so many systems in a car---A/C, cooling, tires, batteries, etc. My inside rear view mirror even fell off last summer in the heat. Though I can't blame my seat on the heat.

Rob

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Isn't it fun and rewarding to do the work yourself? Be warned, it's infectious. :P :wink:

+1

Chris

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Hey get some picks of the whole Jeep when you're done with it!

Please....

Saw a Liberty Blue Jeep like yours (Moltars) on a local cash for clunker line. Tried to find out what salvage yard was buying the cars, all I got is "we are crushing them all whole."

Still looking for a seat and track in my salvage yard travells...

Chris

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Please....

Saw a Liberty Blue Jeep like yours (Moltars) on a local cash for clunker line. Tried to find out what salvage yard was buying the cars, all I got is "we are crushing them all whole."

Still looking for a seat and track in my salvage yard travells...

Chris

So far, I haven't found anything around here...called a few places, they have passenger seats, but not driver's side. Interestingly, the two most promising leads so far I have are on ebay in salvage yards in Ohio. Suppose I can buy one there and have it shipped.

I saw one on ebay that had the front and rear seats in good condition in tan leather...wonder how that would look---dark blue outside, and dark gray and tan inside.

Rob

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So far, I haven't found anything around here...called a few places, they have passenger seats, but not driver's side. Interestingly, the two most promising leads so far I have are on ebay in salvage yards in Ohio. Suppose I can buy one there and have it shipped.

I saw one on ebay that had the front and rear seats in good condition in tan leather...wonder how that would look---dark blue outside, and dark gray and tan inside.

Rob

You could buy a ratty seat and have it covered. I've had seats covered for cars I've restored and if yhou find the right person they can do good work at a reasonable price. I'd hook you up with some people but they are in Ohio.

Chris

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You could buy a ratty seat and have it covered. I've had seats covered for cars I've restored and if yhou find the right person they can do good work at a reasonable price. I'd hook you up with some people but they are in Ohio.

Chris

I have sheepskin seat covers, so the condition of the leather isn't as important right now to me than an unbroken, unbent frame and working power motor.

Rob

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...and actually...being serious...why don't you just plan on keeping this thing "forever" and getting a stockpile of parts.

With this whole CFC thing, you could look for an advert on craiglist or wherever that went something like this.

"Jeep Grand Cherokee 2000 model year. Ran fine until motor locked up. Will not sell whole. Parts available cheap, call with your neds."

You might be able to get almost a whole "noteher" vehicle and store it in the barn in Ohio. As nice as your Mustang is, and as nice as the Jeep looks from what I can see, the Jeep might become almost immortal.

Besides, you'll need something for the snow when you come to your senses and move back to the midwest.

Chris

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The heat puts a strain on so many systems in a car---A/C, cooling, tires, batteries, etc. My inside rear view mirror even fell off last summer in the heat. Though I can't blame my seat on the heat.

Rob

I did have a battery die in my GTO in the middle of August 2 years ago. I tried jumping it but it wouldn't even hold enough charge to get started. But thankfully it is a manual so we were able to push start it so I could get to Autozone to buy a new battery. I decided I don't like being stranded in 115 degree heat so I spent $200 to get an optima battery.

Everything else I've had to fix wasn't heat related though, like a cracked piston in my Grand Prix, and having the EGR passages get plugged up in my Mazda 626.

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Called around to several local salvage yards on Mon-Tues...they either had passenger side seats only, drivers side cloth ones, or the wrong color or trim level. Maybe I should have called car dealers, there have to be plenty of WJs in the CFC rows.

Ended up buying one advertised as in good condition, working, complete w/ track and motors etc on ebay from a salvage yard in Columbus, Ohio. Right color and trim. Fed Ex ground shipping, supposed to arrive here on the 11th. I keep driving around in the 500SEL until then. 'Cooler' weather forecast (under 110), so hopefully by middle of next week I'll have a working driver's seat installed and be back on the road.

Rob

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Took today off and waited at home for Fed Ex. The package came, the seat is in the good condition, most importantly, the track and frame have no cracks, bends, etc. It shipped with the track separate from the seat, that's the first challenge. 4 nuts fasten the track bolts to the seat frame...all hidden, have to reach inside the bottom of the seat with a wrench and blindly tighten them...got started...waiting until evening when the temps drop. Humid and 100 now. May have to wait for the weekend when I have a smaller hand available.

Rob

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