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Speaking of VW, I wonder how the Arteon pricing will compare when it arrives Stateside

 

 

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6 minutes ago, frogger said:

Speaking of VW, I wonder how the Arteon pricing will compare when it arrives Stateside

 

 

 

Good question.

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6 minutes ago, frogger said:

Speaking of VW, I wonder how the Arteon pricing will compare when it arrives Stateside

 

Higher than CC was I assume.  It is a beautiful car in person.  I saw a couple in the wild when I was in France over the summer. 

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1 minute ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Higher than CC was I assume.  It is a beautiful car in person.  I saw a couple in the wild when I was in France over the summer. 

It and the Stinger seem utterly Lustworthy...that and the CT6....

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Looking forward to seeing the Arteon in person...has some neat details, I like how the headlight trim sweeps into the grille...

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28 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Stinger, K900, G70, G80, G90

So 5..  Other than the number is there more to sway my dislike of the brands? I can put any of them up against one of the GM RWDs and still come out feeling like life is grand

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In Canada they are only offering Arteon at loaded (Execline) with AWD included...$48 grand, a few grand cheaper than the Stinger GT2 limited, Regal GS loaded, or Audi A5 Sportback Prestige.

 

 

 

 

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Speaking of Kia and Genesis, these are strange times when you realize the Korean brands have the same number of RWD sedans on sale now in the US that the Detroit 3 have combined.....

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Back to the GS, one thing where I was really disappointed in was the interior.  There is nothing bad about it... it's just ..... dull.

1 minute ago, Robert Hall said:

Speaking of Kia and Genesis, these are strange times when you realize the Korean brands have the same number of RWD sedans on sale now in the US that the Detroit 3 have put together.....

300, Charger, ATS, CTS, CT6.... yep

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10 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Back to the GS, one thing where I was really disappointed in was the interior.  There is nothing bad about it... it's just ..... dull.

300, Charger, ATS, CTS, CT6.... yep

I still like the 300 and Charger as well though.

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7 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

Last I checked Kia/Hyundai/Genesis had a total of four RWD vehicles.. GM has almost as many under Cadillac. Do I think Chevy should get a AlphaL or Omega sedan? Hell yes, but I'm still not buying it.. My next is the CT6-V. 

Hyundai still makes $h!ty cars..  and just because they went out and headhunted the designer fromVW/ Audi doesn't make them any better. U can dress up a pig... Yada Yada..  also what world do we live in where simply having a rear wheel drive vehicle automatically makes U legit? I mean U are a known Ford fan.. I don't know how u sleep through the night knowing they only have one rear wheel drive car in their entire lineup

“U are a known Ford fan”

 

Yeah, I’m not touching that other than to say that you are clearly not familiar with my work. Two Ford fans have been banned or walked away from here (and MT) at least partially because of my many criticisms of Ford. Not a bragging thing btw but just illustrating the pure absurd ness of even insinuating that I am a Ford fan much less a “known Ford fan”. LMAO if you seriously even think that. 

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2 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Two Ford fans have been banned or walked away from here (and MT)

Hey...give me some of that credit too. 

Ive had run ins with them too.

But, the other guy that got banned, Casa had probably more heated run ins than you and I together with him.

But yeah...not a Ford guy you are. Not a fanboi of any brand Id say. 

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3 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Hey...give me some of that credit too. 

Ive had run ins with them too.

But, the other guy that got banned, Casa had probably more heated run ins than you and I together with him.

But yeah...not a Ford guy you are. Not a fanboi of any brand Id say. 

You are correct. I’ve never had a brand allegiance but I had been really liking Cadillac until lately.

 

That little exchange is a great a example of why I took a little break from the forums. I just can’t take certain things that seriously anymore. 

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But...I think this dissing of the Buick Regal (GS or not) is taken too far.

No...it aint a KIA Stinger as in its not a RWD vehicle. 

Yes, it could have used the XTS' twin turbo V6 and a tweaking of that torque vectoring AWD system with a more aggressive transmission tune along with a more sporty suspension set-up.  

2 things wrong with that approach...for Buick. 

1. Buick has never been a sport sedan brand. It had...2 muscle cars in its history. Just 2.  The A-Body from the early1960s was luke warm at best.  In 1970 though, it became something worth talking about. Then the muscle cars from Buick ceased to exist. Until the Grand National arrived in the 1980s.  That muscle car lasted even shorter of a time than the original GS of the 1st generation A Body to the 2nd generation. 

The rest of the hot Buicks were indeed, luxury touring cars. Personal luxury luxo-barge coupes. 

2. The XTS TTV6 probably does sell well, but the other RWD V Series sport sedan Cadillacs dont. Even if Buick offered a more sport sedan Regal GS...few takers would be the result. Guaranteed.  

We shouldnt be that harsh on the Regal. We should just look at the positives of what it is rather than look at the negatives of what it is not and what it could be. 

It could have been a very capable vehicle that could have done battle with Audi's offerings, even if the interior falls short. But it aint an Audi competitor. Not it terms of price point. Not in terms of niche. Not in terms of image. Not in terms of anything.  

Buick just needs to be Buick. Nothing more. What is that? Well, I think the Regal GS is in the perfect direction it needs to be. Buick should "GS" their CUVs (with better interiors) JUST like the Regal is and all will be well for Buick. 

The 2018 Buick Regal GS is probably the best all around sporty and luxury Buick since the 1980s...

Remember, the Grand National and the GNX were not that luxurious...nor did they handle all that good They were not bad handlers as far as GM cars of that era went, but pitiful really as compared to...lets say...BMW of that same era...and you dont know how much I hated saying that just now...I gotta wash my mouth off with soap...

But yet, we wanna give it flack for whatever reason...

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7 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

“U are a known Ford fan”

 

Yeah, I’m not touching that other than to say that you are clearly not familiar with my work. Two Ford fans have been banned or walked away from here (and MT) at least partially because of my many criticisms of Ford. Not a bragging thing btw but just illustrating the pure absurd ness of even insinuating that I am a Ford fan much less a “known Ford fan”. LMAO if you seriously even think that. 

Then maybe I'm wrong.. I'm confusing U with someone else.. Who are U?🤔  Actually.. Doesn't matter to me in the end.. U know that. Cause U know me. pfft😂 Sorry I don't put much thought into posting these days.. but today I'll put a little thought into it.. 

GM, Ford, Chry.. all have a much more storied past, with two still remaining steadfast in RWD motivated vehicles...  way more than Hyundai. Personally I like the diversification of GM's portfolio of vehicles. My only complaint about the company as a whole stems from their heavy reliance on the 3.6L in so many vehicles that would benefit from existing twin turbo engines they already have tried and true. The Regal, Malibu, Impala, XT5, and XT6 included. Going back to the secondary subject, the Stinger, the Regal being the first, I am not attracted to the vehicle.. or anything from the Hyundai camp. Simple as that. The Regal is a more attractive vehicle for various reasons, and if I desired a mid-sized RWD vehicle I'd shop at neither. How is that hard to comprehend considering I have one of the epitomes of RWD mid-sizer sedans in my garage? Is there an issue because I won't downgrade.. or go balls to the wall in support of GM bringing a RWD sedan to the market for "every man?"

My resume of RWD is solid.. past and present. I drive RWD almost daily in the winter with the Yukon. I drive RWD every weekend with the Z06. I drive RWD on every date nite with the CTS-V.. I drive RWD to every cruise with the 66 Impala SS. To some.. I might just have a RWD fetish.. I'm a RWD junkie.. I go cuckoo for RWD. My next car? RWD based AWD CT6V most likely. After that.. RWD based AWD Escalade most likely. Am I supposed to get upset that GM has also decided to appease the market whims of its primary customers in the CUV game.. women.. with FWD based vehicles that have one of the most advanced AWD systems on planet Earth? Nope. That goes for every one of the C1XXs.. the E2XXs. I mean... U are complaining about the fact that outta 16 actual cars GM sells here in the U.S. only 5 are RWD.. but give no evidence or credibility that more RWD available would make the the vehicles more desirable. In fact.. WHAT DO U DRIVE? I know for fact that the Chevy SS was available from the end of 2013 to the end of 2017.. Did U buy? Well why not? I mean the car is still basically brand new. I'm sure U could find a nice one still available GM Certified with under 10K on the odo. How about a Pontiac G8? a used one has to be going for under $10K by now?. U better be driving RWD. Otherwise , or by just looking at the market.. one might see that RWD doesn't sell in huge quantities outside of niche and luxury. GM has niche and luxury RWD based cars. I'm looking at the Stinger's numbers for '18.. it sold 16,806 vehicles. Genesis sold 9200 vehicles for all of 2018.. 3 vehicles included in that summary. 

This is to anyone...

Back to FWD vs RWD in C/SUVS. The XT5 sold more than the X5. More than the GLE. The Lexus RX sold more than any of them. The MDX.. right up there. Of course only at Cadillac does having FWD CUVs damage the brand. BULLS#!+!!! Tell me why?  Personally I'm of the mindset of as long as these CUVs fund me keeping the CTxs and Escalades in the line-up then I'm good. As long as Blazers, Equinoxs, and Traverses keep me getting Camaros, Vettes, and Tahoes.. GREAT Hell the only reason why FCA keeps the Charger, 300, and Chally going is because of net profit due to the fact that the platform is literally 1000 years old. I applaud their duping some into believing that the "Corolla Philosophy, but adding in a big engine and going fast in a straight line" is the American way.

OH.. and just to piss someone out there who refuses to embrace change and moving into that change.. I hope EVs take over the entire automotive landscape by 2022😎

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2 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

So much to say yet still missed the point made but whatever. Just the same old, same old from feverant fans who make assumptions about folks who dare to criticize their favorite brand and then sidestep their errors completely to go off on yet another tangent. Whatever floats your boat.

 

Regarding the Regal, give me an AWD Tour X with a mythical 3.6L Turbo, and I’d be a happy man although I’d be happier had GM not killed off the CTS wagon. I will always be a little sour about that one.

Agree on the CTS wagon, for sure.

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12 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

There is still room for a naturally aspirated 3.6... maybe not as a GS, but still. 

Nissan has had the same NA V6 for like forever in the Maxima....seems to work for them. Of course, being mated to a CVT...

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4 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Nissan has had the same NA V6 for like forever in the Maxima....seems to work for them. Of course, being mated to a CVT...

As does Toyota, and Ford, and Chrysler.  They're all good engines. 

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Just now, Drew Dowdell said:

As does Toyota, and Ford, and Chrysler.  They're all good engines. 

My thought was GM needs to keep a V6 option around for mid sized cars.

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1 minute ago, Drew Dowdell said:

As does Toyota, and Ford, and Chrysler.  They're all good engines. 

I can't get the Fusion Sport out of my head though....white one lives on campus here in Columbus....I feel unnatural good vibes every time I walk past it.

Just now, ccap41 said:

Ford has all but completely phased out their n/a V6 because n/a V6's blow. 

Depends on the NA V6. Lots of guys I worked with in the trades had fantastic luck with V6 Rangers that ran for decade or better.

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1 minute ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I can't get the Fusion Sport out of my head though....white one lives on campus here in Columbus....I feel unnatural good vibes every time I walk past it.

They are one hell of a good used value. 21-23k. 

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