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Nailed the stance!

That's because you're a fanboy and not objectively looking at the two companies' competitive offerings. Also, nothing Cadillac makes competes with Toyota-branded vehicles.

^^^ Hold on tight to your dream. Electric Light Orchestra In 1968. It was a dream. in 2021...its reality.

Yeah...finally that American-Canadian border is open! Yeah...there was a time, just a couple of months ago actually, that Quebec was divided into regions and one person couldn't cross into a different region... Especially if one came from a red zone. Montreal was a red zone when he got his Vette in May.

@oldshurst442 Hilarious story. Cruising around the Laurentians in the most recent of Corvettes without any of the brittle Thelma and Louise bull5h!+. Wow. I guess he got it prior to the opening of the borders. The Canadian border opened to (some of) us on August 9 but the converse is not true for the U.S. And he couldn't go to Quebec City - in the same province - to pick up his Corvette? I like how you describe the craftsmanship. Sounds nice. I think a silver one with the red interior goes to the top of the heap for me in Corvette land. So, how does the new Corvette drive and ride after being behind the wheel of one? I only began to like the full-size Cadillac once they got rectangular lamps up front and became more slab sided. They kept the stateliness but also picked up some "less is more" in the process.

^ That ‘64 above is stately, not garish. - - - - - An actual 4-dr coupe :

I was on a playdate today. With an employee's father who had a convertible C6 Corvette. I had thought that it was a Z06 badge on the side of it a while back when I posted seeing, but in fact it was a Z51 badge. Well, he sold it privately and got himself a.....C8 Corvette. 2021. He had to jump through hoops to get it. None in Quebec were available. All sold out. He gad to fetch it in Saint John's Newfoundland. But couldnt because of Covid restrictions. He had it shipped by ship...to Quebec City to another Chevy dealer But couldnt fetch it there either. Covid restrictions. So had it transported by truck to another dealer. Had to pay extra monies to have it shipped to these dealers. But all in all, the transaction price was NOT higher than MSRP. However, it wasnt the trim level he wanted. His is a 1LT base Stingray. He wanted another Z51, but beggars cant be choosers with a hot and rare commodity that is a C8 Corvette in Quebec and in Canada generally. White with a red interior. Red seats. Red stitching. BEAUTIFUL. But there is no wing. The mags are plain. The only option I think are red brake calipers that have the Corvette name on them. Basic but beautiful. So...I spent the entire day with him and his Corvette. Two middle aged men having the time of their lives. Bonding of our love affair of cars. Talking about Corvettes, but other muscle machines as well. We spent it in the Laurentians. He let me drive it. I fed him steak and beer and chicken wings. You know...manly food. Ahem.... It turned out to be a Thelma and Louise kinda day. (without the sexual abuse, killings, runnin' from the cops and ultimately jumping off a canyon...)

Yeah, neither is SMK!

"Um, not a fan boy, ..."

I don't know if this should be in the joke thread, sort of like "Where does an elephant sit?" "Anywhere it wants." Q: Why did the alligator cross the road in West Mifflin (Pittsburgh), PA? A: Because it can. Gator on the Loose Spotted Crossing Suburban Road in Pennsylvania (msn.com) Take note of how LOW the fine is for violators who keep animals they shouldn't be keeping. It would be difficult to relate to people who have a thing for dangerous animals or reptiles as pets. I'm sure police artists can do a great job of sketching up some stereotypical offending owners.

I would take the Cadillac in the background over anything Toyota has especially right now.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure if there is a GM vehicle that I would take over the comparable Toyota other than the Silverado and Tahoe(if the Sequoia is that large to compare).

Mediocrity.

Don't discount what relentlessly pushing for massive volume results in.

Very, very true….

Who is best in class in every segment they compete in right now? I mean, shouldn't one examine the leader in order to 'reach higher'?

Real effort on GM's part need to be in every market segment GM competes in. Ideally, GM would be the market leader in every segment it competes in. Basically, vehicles such as the Equinox and the Terrain and the Envision should be best in class. Trucks aside, CUVs are the biggest sellers and GM need to be best in class.

Another UGLY reason to AVOID Tesla! Clearly Musk and the Management team has no Honor as they delay to next quarter and for some into next year that placed their orders early, paid their deposit and just cause now the Tesla S starts $10K higher, they are shipping to the newer reservation holders who are willing to pay the $10K more over early reservation holders who are not having to pay it. Tesla apologizes for new Model S delays, but some worrying things are going on - Electrek

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I saw yesterday, in pretty decent condition, a late '80s early '90s Chrysler New Yorker. The pop-up lights looked like they werent working and they were in the 'up' position. It was white, no visible rust. Nothing exciting about it other than seeing a relic of the past. I hadnt seen one since before the '90s decade was up.

24' dubs on a work vehicle. seems inefficient and hardly prudent for contributing to reduced carbon footprint.