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So the Silverado EV shares no parts with the gas Silverado and has a mid-gate, but they're insisting on calling it the Silverado. The depths of the stupidity at GM never cease to amaze me. It actually has fewer shared parts than the Avalanche/Silverado did back in 2013. But, it's got SuperCruise on the RST and and more tow rating than I need.... and I even love the color. Whatever, I'll buy NOS Avalanche badges and rebadge it myself.

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Here's the CT9 full EV interior preview,

The LED screen is not curved...

The Hummer? Yes. The Lyriq? No. The Lyriq starts at $60K and is a Caddy so that price is actually pretty damn good, if you ask me. The $100K GMC, though, clearly is.

finally.... some bench seats for making out

oh how an older Fleetwood would be a nice vintage ride. Did all the Fleetwoods have vinyl tops? https://www.orlandoclassiccars.net/vehicles/709/1993-cadillac-fleetwood-brougham ^^^^ they should have rebadged it, CT9 lol

And a place in line in the meantime. I don’t expect to take delivery for at least 24 months, probably even longer. I’m a patient man. I waited how long to buy the Avalanche I have now?

GM CEO and Keynote presenter Mary Barra outlined the wave of change that is coming as society moves towards mass adoption of electric vehicles and how GM has transitioned from a basic automaker to a platform innovator, providing key Electric technology across a wide platform of uses more than just automobiles. Per GMs global chief marketing officer, Deborah Wahl, and I quote: “Technology driven by purpose will change the world,” “GM is redefining how people and goods are moved. Our commitment to a vision of a world with zero crashes, zero emissions and zero congestion has positioned us to lead. As we implement our growth strategy, we have an opportunity and, frankly, an obligation to create a better future for generations to come. That’s the Ultium Effect.” One can check out GMs Exhibit Zero here: Countdown Until GM Exhibit Zero: A Virtual Experience Marry discussed how the "Ultium Effect" has allowed GM to take from idea to production in what has been considered some of the fastest changes in the auto industry. This Ultium Effect underpins the GMC Hummer EV Truck and Brightdrop EV600 both in delivery to customers now as production ramps up. This Ultium platform will also underpin the soon to be released Cadillac LYRIQ, Chevrolet Silverado and Equinox EVs. Mary also shared the Conceptual Future of Cadillac that covers from the Innerspace, a two-passenger autonomous auto, to their Social Space a take on autonomous luxury van and the Personal Space, a single passenger hover craft that gets you above the ground congestion. Full inside and outside images can be viewed here for all of the Cadillac Concept Portfolio: Cadillac Pressroom - United States - Photos Cadillac-Introduces-InnerSpace-Autonomous-Concept.mp4 Yet while the Keynote touched on many things from SuperCruise to GMs global plans for auto's around the world was a focus on Chevrolet BEV portfolio for everyone. By 2025 the estimate is to have the following: Silverado EV Equinox EV Blazer EV These are in addition to the Bolt EV and EUV The Silverado EV is a reimagined full-size pickup developed on the Ultium Platform in a First edition launch version RST featuring the following: 400-mile range battery pack 350kW fast charging standard 664 hp / 780 lb-ft of torque for the RST model with a 0 to 60 of 4.5 seconds 10,000 pounds maximum trailering, 1,300 lbs of payload with Tow/Haul mode with integrated trailering brake control and hitch guidance 10.2 kW of offboard power Four-wheel steering Fixed glass roof Multi-Flex Midgate Load floor of up to 10ft 10 inches when combined using the Multi-Flex Midgate 17-inch Diagonal LCD freeform infotainment screen Over air updates and latest software features as they are released from GM Trailering capable SuperCruise Independent front and rear suspension with automatic adaptive air suspension allowing the vehicle to be raised or lowered up to 2 inches. One of the cool parts that many Cheverolet customers loved about the legacy Avalanche truck is the return of a mid-gate that has been updated to match the needs of the 21st century. This along with a more enhanced flexible rear seat. Chevrolet is focusing on building best in class interior into their BEVs. Over all this is a truck designed from the ground up to lead the BEV revolution. More images can be viewed at the following media web site: Chevrolet Pressroom - United States - Images One of the most wondered thoughts was how Chevrolet would respond to the huge FRUNK that Ford introduced with their F150 Lighting and to that GMs answer is as follows: While no sizing has been released yet, the press release did say this about the frunk: The eTrunk – a lockable, weatherproof compartment in the front of the vehicle – provides enough space to fit a large hard side suitcase and a multitude of accessory options for both fleet and retail customers to load gear based on the unique needs of the customer. Silverado-EV-BROLL.mp4 Pricing is another area that many have wondered about and while the First Edition RST Silverado EV truck will debut loaded at an MSRP of $105,000, Chevrolet will offer a complete portfolio of trucks with the Base WT or Work Truck starting at $39,900 + DFC or destination Freight Charge of $1,695. Customers will then find a complete portfolio of Trail Boss, Z71, LT, LTE and more with starting price points of $50,000, $60,000, $70,000, $80,000 and $90,000 allowing customers to choose the truck to meet their capability and pricing needs. Videos released while animations show the planned options for the WT truck. SilveradoEV-WT-Exterior-24.mp4 Full images and additional options for the WT truck can be viewed here: Chevrolet Pressroom - United States - Images Many here on Cheers and Gears has stated that these high-priced trucks ignore the folks that cannot afford high 5 to 6 figure autos and GM answer is the Equinox EV. Arriving Fall 2023 with a starting MSRP of $30,000, the Equinox will be available from the start in both a fleet and retail version that include the LT and RS trims based on the Ultium Platform providing an affordable EV option to the global customer. More details will come out closer to launch. GM at CES 2022: Experience The Ultium Effect Cadillac Introduces InnerSpace Autonomous Concept at CES 2022 The Pickup Reimagined: Introducing the 2024 All-Electric Chevrolet Silverado Chevrolet Previews Equinox EV View full article

Starting at $39k for the WT model. Only the loaded RST will crest $100k. Most of the consumer models will be $75k-$85k like the Lightning.

I like the Bro-hams...seems like they could be a very nice road trip car, just needs an upgrade to have Apple Car Play and a nav screen. I wonder if those seats are as comfortable as they look. The '00 DTS and '06 STS I got plenty of seat time in were very comfortable. most had a vinyl top like this:

Mary Posted a Bullet point list of her KeyNote address on LinkedIn. (9) A Bold and Purposeful Showing at CES | LinkedIn

ONY has introduced the world to their vision of battery electric vehicles and with it a new division being the "Sony Mobility Inc." which will explore the entry into the EV market. The VISION_S 01 a 4-door sedan and the VISION_S 02 SUV with up to 7 passenger seating has been designed to accommodate a variety of lifestyles in a society that values an increasing diversified way of life. These AWD BEVs look to expand on the quality of lifestyle that humans live. Sony Mobility Inc. will use the best of AI and robotics technologies to deliver a harmonious evolution of mobility that allows humans and robots to achieve the safest and most enjoyable life filled with emotion and contribution to society according to the Sony Press release. These new BEVs start off with Safety as the key to mobility. Sony aims to provide greater safety and comfort to all through a series of sensor and communication technologies that will deliver a world's best Level 2+ advanced driver assistance systems on public roads. This package of sensors gives a 360-degree real time support system by recognizing and analyzing the surrounding environment using CMOS image sensors and LiDAR sensors for a three-dimensional space assessment for the driver. Safety is joined by a 5G communication system that allows the auto to be connected to the cloud allowing a superior driver experience with a complete customizable setup for each driver as the ultimate adaptability. Families will love the Entertainment aspect as the VISION_S BEVs will have in-vehicle entertainment, gamming capabilities that can connect to your PlayStation at home or streaming play via the cloud. This comes with a 360 Reality Audio immersive sound system One can expand their interest by checking out the VISION_S web site here: Sony Group Portal - VISION-S The VISION_S sedan and SUV have been tested on Japan and Germany Roads for Level 2+ autonomous driving as well as compatibility with charging and durability of the auto in a wide range of extreme weather from heat to cold, dry to wet conditions. The auto's will come initially in 4 colors, Placid White, Blaze Red, Tidal Silver and Core Black. For those that wonder if SONY is serious about entering the BEV business, they have mules already testing in Frankfurt to ensure their vehicles can hang with the best. Specifications for the VISION_S 02 SUV are as follows: Length 192.7in Height 65.0in Width 76.0in Wheelbase 119.3in Ground Clearance 6.2 inch Tire size 255 / 50R20 [Front] 275 / 45R20 [Rear] Passengers 4 / 7 Weight 5,467lbs Power 200kW x 2 [ Front / Rear ] Vmax More than 112mph Axle system Double wishbone front & rear suspension Air spring system Drive All-Wheel Drive You can view more images, videos and details on the SUV here: Sony Group Portal - VISION-S | VEHICLE The VISION_S 01 Sedan has the following Specifications: Length 192.7in Height 57.1in Width 74.8in Wheelbase 119.3in Ground Clearance 4.7in - 5.3in Tire size 245 / 40R21 [Front] 275 / 35R21 [Rear] Passengers 4 Weight 5,180lbs Power 200kW x 2 [Front / Rear] Acceleration 4.8s 0-62mph Vmax 149mph Axle system Double wishbone front & rear suspension Air spring system Drive All-Wheel Drive The platform is a SONY designed skateboard EV platform that allows far superior interior room thanks to the design that includes an ultra thin battery pack. This platform is designed from concept to support sedans, SUVs and MPVs using a top-class automobile safety design that uses active and passive safety features as well as the Software designed E/E Architecture 5G network connectivity system. More details for the nerds out there can be read here: Sony Group Portal - VISION-S | PLATFORM Sony Group Portal - VISION-S Sony Group Portal - VISION-S Exhibiting at CES 2022, Entering a New Phase View full article

Seems some battery companies are focused on offering a superior battery pack for Tesla owners and as such, the following company Our Next Energy (ONE) company has a battery pack that gives the Tesla S a 752 mile range.

now we might be getting somewhere in the EV discussion https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/5/22868410/gm-chevy-equinox-blazer-ev-announced-ces https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38676580/2024-chevy-equinox-ev-revealed/ https://www.engadget.com/chevy-blazer-equinox-ev-teaser-184112130.html

A lot of the custom paint jobs has been taken over by the much cheaper and reversible wrapping.

I do like the slim front lighting trend, after years of excess cluster bloat.

And that's YOUR choice but that is not the way for everyone. Avalanche part deux. I dig it.

It helps that is also has the door to expand the bed, like the Avalanche.

@David, here’s your Silverado That’s quite the price gap

Are they the only company with zero EVs?

its pointless to gravitate to only one means of propulsion. we should be encouraging use, and sales, and R&D of several forms of vehicle propulsion in the interest to FUEL DIVERSITY. gas, diesel, fuel cell, E85, simple hybrid, plug in hybrid, full BEV, all have a place and all our eggs should never be in just one basket. And hey, let the market decide, subsidize all equally. How about planning for how all that electricity is going to be produced? Individual freedom of mobilization should still be promoted, therefore we can't turn to making cars too expensive for everyone. Walk the talk and let more nuclear plants be opened if you want the electrics so bad.

GM now the #2 automaker in US. Toyota #1. Thanks, Mary. swirlin the drain

And he also gave examples of why the practices (he mentioned) should qualify as bait and switch, not that are )legally speaking) bait and switch. Key distinction that you seem to be missing in all of this. As far as the dealership, you make a fair point but if you also read what I said, I said that "98%" are doing this. Your dealership is the 2% exception. My dealership remark was also a smaller statement mixed in the larger point of true customer choice and being able to skip the dealership altogether. Sorry but folks can claim capitalism and choice when at least one of those doesn't really exist (choice) and you currently have dealerships and governments (looking at you Michigan and Texas) who are stifling the buy direct approach brought on by companies like Tesla. Sorry but those tactics and blocking maneuvers are the EXACT opposite of capitalism.

The bigger safety issue at this point w/ Tesla is the 'auto pilot' cruise control and people thinking they can take a nap while driving, etc..been many crashes and some fatalities to misuse of that feature.

And there is another choice: the choice to NOT to buy if the consumer deems the price is too high or not worth it... Also, there is a choice to buy used to weather out a market adjusted price storm... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market In economics, a free market is a system in which the prices for goods and services are self-regulated by buyers and sellers negotiating in an open market. In a free market, the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government or other authority, and from all forms of economic privilege, monopolies and artificial scarcities.[1] Proponents of the concept of free market contrast it with a regulated market in which a government intervenes in supply and demand through various methods such as tariffs used to restrict trade and to protect the local economy. In an idealized free-market economy, also called a liberal market economy, prices for goods and services are set freely by the forces of supply and demand and are allowed to reach their point of equilibrium without intervention by government policy. https://study.com/academy/lesson/capitalism-and-the-free-market.html Capitalism and the Free Market Meet Tanya, the founder of a small tech company in the United States. She recently formed her company to design and build a smart watch, which is a miniature computer tablet that you can wear on your wrist. She dreams of making piles of money, which is one of the rewards of success in free market capitalism. Capitalism is an economic system that is organized around the principles of private property, freedom of exchange, competitive markets and limited government intervention. An economic system is simply a way that society structures how economic decisions will be made and resources will be allocated. Now, let's take a closer look at what a capitalistic system entails. Most property in a capitalistic economy is private. This means that individuals, instead of the government, own the factors of production. Factors of production are the things that we use to make goods and services and include land, labor and capital. You also get to keep the profits from your economic activities. Since you get to keep what you earn, this tends to encourage risk-taking and innovation. If Tanya didn't have the right to the profits generated from sales of her smart watches, she may not bother to invest time, energy or money to take the risk and innovate. A second important feature of capitalism is freedom of exchange. An exchange is simply trading one resource for another. Nobody can force Tanya to sell her company. Moreover, nobody can be forced to buy Tanya's smart watches. And Tanya cannot force anyone to work for her. Instead, everybody in a capitalistic economy has the right to engage in exchanges or not engage in exchanges. People make exchanges according to their self-interest. If the deal isn't worth it to one of the parties, then the deal won't go through. In other words, if a potential customer doesn't think Tanya's smart watch is worth the price, he will not exchange money for it. The third primary feature of capitalism is competitive markets. A market is a place where buyers and sellers come together to engage in economic exchanges. A perfectly competitive market is characterized by a large number of sellers that offer identical products for sale and everybody has information that they need to make a rational decision regarding a potential exchange. If all products are the same, businesses must compete on price. Perfectly competitive markets seldom exist. Most markets are competitive markets and are characterized by a large number of businesses selling similar products with all participants having pretty good information. For example, Tanya isn't the only, or the largest, company coming up with smart watches. Limited government intervention in the economy is also a major characteristic of capitalism. This type of competitive market is often referred to as a free market. The government generally does not set the prices of goods or services - the market sets the price. And the government's regulatory role is pretty much limited to ensuring that there is a level and fair playing field. In other words, the government sets up the rules, so that no one has an unfair advantage in the market.

The fact that dealerships are businesses and in a free market system, there is no cap on how much money and profit could be made and it seems to me that you wanna whine for nothing. Are you denying the right for a dealership to make money? Even if its hand over fist profits, we live in a system where we do not put a cap on profit. Wouldnt be 'Merican if we did. Would be communism if we did... Also...in a free market system, NOBODY forces a consumer to buy anything either... Unless we are stuck with a monopoly but those are illegal in a free market system. Also, price fixing is also illegal so unless you and David could prove that ALL dealerships work together to price gouge its customers, you are shyte out of luck with whatever you wanna whine about. And I think, that some of those price hikes are warranted. Certain expenses that the dealerships had to deal with have skyrocketed. And unless you know what the dealerships have to go through to make it through the month, you and David cant cry about market adjusted pricing on cars. There is only one thing you and David could do. And its your God given right (if you believe in such an entity) as an American (OK...its in the Constitution rather than God giving you this right) to choose NOT to buy a new car at this moment in time. So do not buy a new car and pay no market adjusted price hike... and if all Amercians do that, maybe market adjusted price hikes cease? But if there is one willing red blooded American to pay such a thing, then guess what? Then whatever vehicle is bought at whatever market adjusted price it was bought at, then THAT is what THAT car is worth and its THAT new price that what THAT car's new market value is... Dont be pissed at the dealership, be pissed at whoever is paying these prices. Its quite simple... There is no need to crack down on anything. Free market system... Simple supply and demand. The fundamentals of capitalism.

Well...not exactly. In advertisements, usually and mostly, dealerships will showcase the least expensive model with the least expensive monthly payments to entice you to enter their dealerships. Its usually the base model with a lease option with the most favorable (the lowest possible) amount of money per month. And again... *PHOQUING SIGH* M SUGGESTED R P does NOT mean its a SOLID price cemented in cement drawn up with blood that the OEM will FORCE upon the dealership to sell the car. Its SUGGESTED. Its a PRIVATE phoquing business.... An owner of a PRIVATE business has the RIGHT to sell its products at whatever price HE/SHE wants...and deems necessary to make...you know...MONEY. We DO live in a country that practices the free market system, do we not? Its up to the CONSUMER to decide for HIMSELF if its WORTH IT! You know, we have the PHOQUING FREEDOM to NOT buy... You could call it grand larceny if you want to. Does NOT make it so. Bait and switch is NOT what you have described. Bait and switch and a whole 'nother ball game. THIS is bait and switch: Like I said above, the ad in the newspaper is of a base model with the least expensive options and monthly payments to entice you to enter the dealership. There is fine print at the bottom of the ad, LEGAL fine print that a consumer NEEDS to read and THAT protects the dealership from ANY hurt feelings like how you express just in case there is litigation... And in that fine print explains ALL that there is to know about how the pricing will probably be if you want to buy a more elaborate model... Abusing? maybe... But YOU also do NOT know what expenses the dealerships have incurred because of this covid mess and chip shortage and shipping lane bottle necks and whatever other shyte thta has happened since covid hit. I know. I own a business. Certain things have skyrocketed and I also had to market adjust certain items on my menu. There ARE options out there to weather out the expensive sticker prices of new cars. There is no need to buy a NEW car right about now. One could exercise their right to buy a used car. Although those are crazy high too, still cheaper a option than buying a crazy market price hike. The price hike itself just about costs as much as a used car... So yeah...

I believe that since no one has died, coverage is more sparse and less sensationalist. Also, some people are willing to cut Tesla some slack, given how young and 'hip' the company is compared to the competition. Eventually Tesla will probably be swept aside by the legacy automakers since Tesla has not made a truly affordable model to replace all the new/newish cars out there.

How Dare she put her dirty shoe on that paint job! ?

To this I say: Oh, crap, it's not the music thread. Regardless, the '90s did have some decent music. And this is one of those songs I knew exactly where I was when I first heard it.