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All I can say is be here Monday morning for some interesting news from a competitor.

All of those are the rubber band style CVT. None of them are planetary. The only planetary CVTs that I can think of are inside the 2-mode Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade, but those also are tied to traditional automatics, yes both in a single unit. They have an unusual but not unpleasant acceleration The CT6 PHEV uses 2 planetary eCVTs plus one non-electric planetary CVT. Strangest “shifting” pattern of all because the engine can go on and off at anytime, but it does feel like there are gears doing work in there . It was the next generation of Voltec but used ICE for additional performance while Voltec was only used electric propulsion

i just read an article yesterday that said that Stellantis is going to have a new gas rwd Charger/300/Challenger platform on line in 25-26-ish.....I'll hunt for the link. that is new info. Before, it was believed there was going to be no replacement for the current platform but that new news seemed to indicate otherwise. If true, its a major plus for Stellantis. And the customer. yes, that was what i read.! beat me to it.

Just saw an article claiming Stellantis is planning a new generation of lighter ICE Chargers and Challengers on a new platform for 2024-5ish... can't recall where, I think it was a credible source.. Edit: it was Motor Trend..read it this morning...no timeline mentioned. Hope it happens. Can't be all CUVs and SUVs, need some largish coupes and sedans too... https://www.motortrend.com/news/next-gen-dodge-charger-challenger-hellcat-v8/

Good morning .... - - - - - By the way, guys, that "Planet of the Apes" was a good movie!

^Re: family car factoid: '49 Ford--a dark blue '49 Ford fordor was my parents' first new car (21 years before I was born)...I have an old B&W photo of it I will scan and post eventually. They traded it on a '52 Ford 3 years later. When they got married in '48, my Dad was driving his Dad's '40 Packard. coupe.

Makes sense that Toyota would use their old hybrid systems from the Prius line as they are so far behind on the EV front. This is the only way to offer something competitive to the market as they scramble to get going on EVs. GM choose to not go the Hybrid route but focus on the EV route and I think it will serve them well as the various stories of the Cadillac Dealer meeting seems to show that GM has a heavy stable of EVs coming and Cadillac is going to lead in this effort ahead of the Asian or European brands. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-6957783447205478400-37dt?utm_source=linkedin_share&utm_medium=member_desktop_web I would be willing to bet since Cadillac has stated they will have much more announcements this coming fall that we will see various new models including even the electric Escalade at this show possibly. Home | 2022 Cadillac Fall Festival I would also be willing to say that GM will probably be first to have a mid-size EV truck as the Silverado is looking good, I can easily see them scale this down to mid-size which would sell hot for them too. B-roll--Chevrolet-Silverado-EV-engineering-vehicle.mp4

As it is unlikely you’ve gotten to drive the “best” CVT, planetary systems in my view, probably not fair to judge.

Not all CVTs are bad. It’s just that what is now the traditional CVT isn’t great. There are other designs using planetary gear sets that would do very well in trucks (they were part of the Tahoe 2-Mode hybrid). CVTs and hybrid usually go hand in hand because it’s the best way to blend power from two sources. But not all CVTs are the rubber-band-drive units found in Nissans and Subarus.

I completely agree. They make themselves seem more complex because they add unnecessary things and then they go ahead and make 90% of your interior controls all through a screen instead of just making hard buttons that everybody knows how to use. YUP! All while just being able to simply plug in when you park in your own garage instead of stopping at a gas station. So many people act like they're taking road trips every weekend and they'll be stuck wasting HOURS sitting at a charger.

I think a lot of the BS EV's have added on is where the 'more complex' comes in...like the doorhandles on Teslas or Mach-es, the 'self-driving', etc... an EV doesn't need that stuff to be usable. And the 'refueling' is definitely perceived as more complex and time consuming--the struggle to find a working charging station, the apps for using the charging station, the time it takes to charge, having to carefully plan trip routes around the availability of working charging stations, etc vs the ubiquity, speed and simplicity of refueling at gas stations...

While ICEs are more complex, the general public seems to see EVs as more complex, just because they're a newer technology and drastically different. At least the handful of people I've talked to that don't follow the automotive world seem to think they're more complex vehicles and are afraid of the technology being too new still to consider. General public tends to be really stupid. ?

Interesting read for a full assumption of what will move forward, Stellantis did state in their 2030 roadmap that they would be looking to still have 50% of every product line to be ICE at 2030, but that could also change based on customer purchase trends. I would question if a V8 survives till 2030, I suspect that once you have the 500HP Twin Turbo I6 engine and an EV version that people will move over when they compare drive them side by side. Not everyone, but many that do not want to mess with the complexity of ICE will move to EV.

That's partially my fault that you don't see it. For some reason the chart breaks in the forum version of the article, but if you view it from the front page, you'll see that the highest tune is only for the ZR2 model. In both cases the engines get their peak torque at 3000 rpm, but the ZR2 gets 40 additional torques. Along with other performance stuff, it makes the ZR2 more specialer.

Neat..but covers about a dozen vents..

how bou this, Bonneville dash + touchscreen

Your "option" requires a heavier re-investment since the last plug-in Chevy was killed off two years ago (Volt). Again, their EV plan kills any need for a hybrid of any kind here considering the minimal gains I just discussed above. I am not going to go back and forth on this. And yes, EVs lose range when towing. Last time I checked, gas powered trucks lose a bunch of energy too when towing. That is mostly made up hype, short of extreme towing.

"options" would be offering a hybrid too, could be a plug-in. The thing EV trucks are bad at are towing, because it zaps the range. So something like a hybrid F150 could tow long distance, and still have their pro-power onboard thing that lets you power a job site or camp site or whatever electric tools or camping stuff you want to plug in.

It's called "options" which is commonplace with domestic trucks. There is also really no need for a hybrid either when an EV is probably right behind this (especially given that an EV Silverado is due in in a year (as a '24 model). The Colorado will probably be a a year or three behind it. If there were no EVs, then a hybrid option would suit but I just don't see that here given GMs obvious long term plans. This too. The Maverick gets the expedition here since it is a smaller pick up and also FWD so just a different beach altogether. Hybrid RWD trucks just don't gain much on the MPG front for whatever reason.

^^^ Id put my money on it being a 1949 Ford.

Seen on July 18 - I have no clue what it is, but it's old ... funky color, too.

Maybe Chevy needs to be the excitement division. given the Camaro and the Corvette. Sales are strongly biased against cars these days, though.