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Damn, that is so true…. Hard not to when it comes to cars… But it’s much more relaxing to come to places that don’t talk about those “things”. I’m sadly down to a few forums that still enjoy talking about cars…….

Maybe 2018 or 2019 I was at a lakeside bar and they had a jukebox...I remember it was September and a Packers game was on. What was playing was a variety of pop and country pop songs...I selected Pearl Jam's 'Black', Nirvana's 'Teenage Spirit' and Soundgarden's 'Black Hole Sun' to lighten up the mood with some classic grunge..

Good morning. I think it would be funny to go into a biker bar, locate the jukebox, select "McArthur Park,""More, More, More," and "I Love the Nightlife," and GTFO.

It just needs to go. Jeep needs to focus on having less models, and more focus and their core successful ones. They have a long road to fix their battered rep…..

I can tell that's a fake because they made a sedan a CX. CX is only for crossovers. They should have gotten a Mazda 6 badge and turned the 6 upside down. A large sedan with a Mazda 9 badge would be more believable.

I have noticed a very disturbing trend. Be it light rail to work at 5am or at the dealership in the waiting room, I am seeing more folks just ignore who is around them, put their phone on speaker and chat away with whoever is on the other end. Was at Kia to get my Kia Connect app on my phone connected as they had a major outage, and it disconnected the phone app from the app that required going to the dealership to get it re-connected. Bummer, but as I sat in the waiting room, there was an old couple talking to I think their grand kids and I get on speaker phone then both can hear the other person, but then you need to use an inside voice but understandable. The one that is not is the individual person that is there on speaker phone with another talking away on high volume disturbing the rest of the folks sitting around waiting. Really need to remind folks of better etiquette when out and about, no need to hear the other person. Seems to be a growing trend as Washington state has grown big time over the last few years and now, I constantly have kids with their auto's radio system loud and booming so that it interrupts my listening to my own music inside my auto. Wish parents would raise their kids better.

You don't even need to go in anymore. Those digital jukeboxes can now take selections from your phone. You can be on a plane over the Atlantic and do it.

Add to that "The Immigrant Song."

While I'm as angry over the current state of things as anyone, I'm going to gently steer the conversation away from politics given the no-politics rule we've had in place for years. If you've got something political to talk about, it must be related to the car industry somehow.