BrewSwillis

Sounds like more than just some random guess:

Unless the article is completely wrong.....and the car actually looks nothing remotely close to that sketch......then I may withdraw my judgement. However, using the information I have been given, and judging the sketch that was presented (even it's just in the same ballpark as the real thing)......yes, I am judging that thing as looking like a complete joke of a "supercar". It would have to look drastically different for me to change my opinion.

Like the domestics really deserve this. This has gone way too far. It leaves no doubt that there is an actual conspiracy to destroy the domestic automakers.

Even if it's just Indy car races......it's still very sad!

Is that what an Auston Martin looks like? I'm sorry......had to do it! It's Aston Martin.

You're comparing farting noises, broken windows, and grinding brakes....... to oil leaks, new transmissions, and rattle traps?? That's.....uhhh......almost......the same thing??

How sad , I rember when actual cool performance cars were Indy pace cars: What a sad country we have become. I feel sorry for the youth of the future.

:rotflmao: From something that "looked" like a supercar: to something that looks like a glorified RSX Then, what will this glorified RSX cost?? It should at least look the part if it is going to cost like $85K+ .

Impala looks just as good to me:

Yeah, they used to think it was bland and acceptable.......and now they are just disgusted by it!

Dude at work had like 230,000 miles on his mid-90's Cavalier, and he bragged about how he never really got many oil changes. He wanted to get something newer, so he ended up getting a Kia Spectra. I'm willing to bet he won't get 230,000 miles out of it.

...but it's a Honda !??

Actually, this stuff works great if you lose wiper functionality. I was driving my dad's car quite a few years back, and it was pouring when the wipers stopped working. Just stopped at Murray's and picked up a bottle of Rain-X......worked like a charm. Now I even use the Rain-X washer fluid!

Might be the same/similar as this: http://www.dodge.com/en/chassis-cab/gallery/index.html

Don't forget the Avalon is 268 now.......not 280!

Why.....was he going to buy one?

:unsure: His screen name is "Dodgefan". I'm guessing he's partial to Dodges? He just said that all Toyotas suck except for the FJ....which even I would agree with. Heck, I even like the FJ's interior. At least you could change your name to Toyota Kris to show that you aren't neutral.

O.K., so I guess Edmunds sucks at driving. Maybe the GS 450h (Imagine telling people "Yeah, I have a GS 450h".....a what?) will get the factory numbers with real drivers from Motor Trend and C&D??

I was MAINLY talking about the 0-60 numbers. What company reports 0-60 numbers that the magazines can't beat or even duplicate?

There's another difference between Toyota (and the other Asians), and the Domestics. Toyota will publicly report numbers that can't even be achieved, as opposed to Domestic companies who usually report less ambitious numbers, that can usually be beaten. They some how manage to get a free pass though.

Little kids from school cafeterias?

You mean the Yaris is not the "little brother"? There's somethng smaller??

The revised New Beetle also has creases on the fenders to give it a more modern appearance. old

I know they are piling up Jeeps in a bunch of lots in Toledo, but I'm guessing it's because they are about to retool and do change over for the new Wrangler, and then very soon after the new Liberty and Nitro.

I had a black 88 Shadow ES Turbo 4-door for a while. It was my sister's, and I drove it after my 87 Daytona Turbo got rear ended. It was pretty cool, but my Daytona was better......it had a Mopar Performance computer in it that upped the boost on the turbo!