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If @Robert Hall says its a Maverick, then its a Maverick... PS: Tom Cruise approves! Cue in the music!

Its never gonna be built... But its nice for you to have a wet dream. Keeps you young, I here.

The Corvette was ALWAYS about performance... The Corvette ALWAYS spanked Porsche and Ferrari and then Porsche and Ferrari came back with models to counter the Vette and so forth and so forth... The Z-51 package is the most BASIC track package on a Corvette. Its the LOW LEVEL trim track package of Corvettes. Z51 is what you start off with. Then Chevy introduces the Z06 which is THE track package that REALLY sets records. Then there is the top Vette that gets more power and slightly better traction to cope with that power as compared to the Z06 making the top top Corvette the ULTIMATE in top speed, quickness and track. 45 seconds on the new mid engined C8 Z06 that will get better aero and down force and more power will be nothing for Corvette engineers to accomplish. Actually, when they were testing the BASE Stingray, they BENCHMARKED the 911 for track duty. And you know this... YOU have seen the pictures. What 911 is that anyway? Is that a special track oriented 911 I see in that pic testing along with that camo C8 before it was even revealed to the world that that is the new mid-engined Corvette? And...it does NOT stop there... As YOU know...the Corvette actually does go...racing... It had a solid start at Daytona Is that another Porsche behind the C8 racing there? Wow...Im shocked! (sarcasm)

I got to correct me opinion. By NO means Im saying that profits shouldnt be made when restoring a car. Its a BUSINESS. As it should be. But...like in the food industry or any other industry, money has to be made...but not at the expense of the customer in terms of safety. And...like in the food industry...it has to be a labour of love. Why? Well...cars...and food (in a restaurant)....is an art. It has to be appreciated by the end user. Yes...even in a fast food joint No labour of love there and a hamburger like that...gives MY profession a bad name. How many times do I hear anywhere that fast food is garbage???!!! Well...a hamburger like that...who am I to argue???!!! Same thing with the classic auto restoration business. Ill repeat my saying: "One should do it NOT for the money, but for the love of the automobile" And if done right with lots of love...the money WILL be there!!! Because the QUALITY of the work and the BEAUTY of the automobile will shine through and the buyer will view his purchase like he sees...art.

Why not flip a car for profit? If done right, and the car will be safe for the guy that buys it...Im all for that! The thing is, done ONLY for profit, in the good 'old capitalistic fashion, things are done cheap to maximize the bottom line. And THAT is no good. For the buyer, and the industry of restoring classic in general. The regular guy that wants a nice classic and gets bamboozled for "x" reason will not be participating in another romp of buying another restored classic...and...restoring ONLY for profit also screws the industry as it inflates the "popular" classics to extreme levels of unaffordability for the majority of the car enthusiasts and is only bought buy "collectionneurs" that just flip it again to the point of that car becoming undriveable because its too valuable and just becomes a garage queen until the next superstar fad classic becomes popular regulating the former classic worthless beause its time is up. In the meantime...the regular car guy just moves on to other interests...that may not be automotive in nature.

True true. And that Cadillac if restored properly will probably fetch more than what it costs. But sometimes, there are sought after classics that dont fetch as much either, so that is when the cost cutting measures happen. Im thinking about maybe something along the lines of a 1966 Oldsmobile 442. Its a 442, but not the right one (not the 1970 W-30) so that resembles your Chevelle 300 vs Chevelle SS example. Or maybe a 1967 Ford Fairlane GT. Its a classic. Its a great looking vehicle. Its a muscle car. its the top top Fairlane. But the market no longer supports THAT muscle car. But yeah. We are saying the same thing... My MAIN message is: "One should do it NOT for the money, but for the love of the automobile"

Most of the time, any car that needs restoration, a PROPER frame-up restoration repairing ALL rust and holes and doing the project right without any cutting of corners and all that is NEVER a financial prudent decision. BUT... One should do it NOT for the money, but for the love of the automobile.

yes. Its a great listen. But I will talk down to you right now. as if I was your mommy, or bad news media or guvment. I understand the natural knee jerk reaction to why some of us do NOT want to trust news outlets and big brother guvments, BUT you said it yourself. So why does it matter how you get your information? Process it like a big boy....like you always do. THIS is THE problem. And YOU acknowledge it. It AINT the media. Its YOU. All that conspiracy theory stuff is all in your head about clicks and views. And to tell you the truth. The good Doctor on that podcast really didnt say anything at all. Like I did. Nothing. JUST COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC...with the available information at hand about Covid-19. For all we know...that Doc is a fake. How do we know he is a doctor? Maybe he is an actor. Joe Rogan is an actor... In Hollyweird. Its easy to distrust. So we could easily denounce that podcast as well...

These are ALL my posts from yesterday...and my posts from yesterday...more or less...with a few differences....state the same thing he has said... And I DID listen to this podcast...yesterday...late at night...AFTER I had written my posts...

Ive had my share of warnings and bans and trolling posts and enemies and foul language. Here and the other automotive forum I posted in a long time ago. But hey...we are here to try to figure out where in the world is Drew and not about MY posting habits...God Dammit!!! So @Drew Dowdell Where in the hell are you?

Oh...That is coming shortly. Be careful what you wish for. Its called the Corvette C8 with trims and performance levels higher than that of the base Stingray. And of course a higher price tag. And seeing that the highest priced C8 Stingray reaches almost 100 000...you just KNOW that the other two projected C8 Corvettes will reach and probably surpass 130 000. And yes...those Vettes WILL sell at that price. GM aint phoquing around anymore. You aint seeing that? Im giving you a heads up. Maybe you should look into it more closely.

because the CT6 was said to be a high priced Cadillac. And a top dog Cadillac at that. The potential buyers and fanbois all thought that this was THE Cadillac. But it wasnt. The interior quality of materials were underwhelming. THAT is why Johan right away said that this was NOT a top dog Cadillac. It was not his project car. He inherited it. It was a project car done at the time of the bankruptcy and whether the bankruptcy had an impact on the cheapened interior or was it business as usual bean counting...the CT6 was NOT that vehicle. And the fans and the buyers saw it right away... But they will. The Celestiq...for the LAST time...does NOT look like a project going down the road of what made Cadillac fail... 1. Seeing how the Corvette engineering team was focused on the project at hand and gave us an unbelievable C8 Stingray to start with and other trims to follow. I see Cadillac engineers to do the same with not only the Celestiq but withb the other models too. 2. Seeing the new CT4-V and CT-5-V in person and how the interior is tight and the materials are worthy of REAL Cadillacs, I KNOW GM and Cadillac FINALLY got the message...and things are only going to get better with the EV Cadillacs going forward. 3. Maybe some of us are not really feeling the new Escalade on the outside, but on the inside, its very worthy of a REAL Cadillac. I think it even surpasses the high dollar Mercedes cars. Side note, at the Montreal Auto Show...the new CT4 V and CT5 V cars were there, but NOBODY was interested in them, (which points out that sedans are dead) but there was a line-up at the Escalade. Millennials, middle-aged like myself and boomers... I think the Escalade UNITES us all. To which I will assume the Celestiq will do the same as in... The people crooned over the Ciel...and the Ciel would have been a 200 000 dollar price tagged car. if not more. People are STILL talking about the Ciel. The Ciel was a concept that was 15 years ago... Shyte..people still croon over the Sixteen 20 years ago. All the Ciel and Sixteen had to do is just be...Cadillac and they'd sell like hot cakes with Bentley and Rolls price tags... All the CT6 had to do...is just be a WORTHY Cadillac. It was not. The Celestiq WILL be a worthy Cadillac. Nothing shows that Cadillac in 2020 will NOT be doing things right. This is a game that Cadillac finally ended. Cadillac just started a new game. YOU got to get off this habit of yours. Worry about Mercedes. Because Mercedes in 2020 is going down a road that Cadillac once took.

True. That is why I said it. But arent we in a much safer place for better preparing for the...worst? Rather than just ignore it all and say its all media driven hype?

A real throne. Id like one of these myself.

And here is another by the same news source https://ca.yahoo.com/news/mainland-china-reports-15-coronavirus-005252760.html @ocnblu But you still did not answer... PS... THAT link says...by June...maybe. And IF countries follow proper WHO protocol. Proper WHO protocol: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/community-mitigation-strategy.pdf https://www.who.int/news-room/articles-detail/updated-who-recommendations-for-international-traffic-in-relation-to-covid-19-outbreak https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/10/E264 And in the LAST link about Covid 19 about preventing it from infecting hospitals... These are NOT media driven...THESE are legit health resources.... read them...its good info. The Yahoo article says...BY JUNE.... March...April...May...and then by June...all will be good. IF we follow good protocol... And read these protocols in the links... These protocols have been suggested by the media...but some of you say its all media hype...but its really WHO protocol...not fear driven...but by PROPER protocol... But I guess the Flu has shut down countries in the past... But wait... The Flu HAS shut down countries in the past... The Spanish Flu. And Covid-19 is said to be MORE EASILY contracted than the Spanish Flu. Yeah...I know...media driven fear.

one could answer that way. LOL I wasnt looking for that answer, but sure. Yeah. I see it with him. Yeah...I thought so. But you also confirmed your bias once more that I accused you of by downvoting @Robert Hall's post...

@ocnblu Stop with the cute emoji voting thing and the shyte trolling posts. Answer the question... Your President and HIS decision to close down the borders... Is HE being influenced by #fakenews media hype? Or is HE protecting HIS citizens?

You defend President Trump like nothing else. Anytime somebody says ANYTHING bad about him, you downvote, go apeshyte and foam at the mouth trying to get Drew to stop political discussions, yet YOU say all kinds of bad shyte against ANY poltical agenda that GOES against YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS. Ive noticed that President Trump is your guy... (and there is NOTHING wrong with that!!!) But...seeing that YOU are saying THIS is media driven hype.. Well...how do YOU feel about it when YOUR guy...President Trump, is CLOSING YOUR COUNTRY'S BORDERS with CERTAIN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES DUE TO COVID-19? (Ignore the italic words on top....meant to troll you...) (ANSWER the bolded part. Very sincere the bolded part) Is HE being influenced by #fakenews media hype? Or is HE protecting HIS citizens? Your President and HIS decision to close down the borders... Is HE being influenced by #fakenews media hype? Or is HE protecting HIS citizens? Answer me this, Batman.

The Prime Minister of Canada, his wife,...got a virus that has KILLED thousands in a matter of weeks. And YOU are saying look at the numbers!! I AM!!! The Prime Minister's DOCTORS...Im assuming HIS doctors are the best in Canada...because HE is a MILLIONNAIRE and HE is the PRIME MINISTER is ADVISING HIM TO SELF ISOLATE!!! Boy...are YOU dense???!!!! YOUR President... shut YOUR borders to Europe BECAUSE of this... I thought YOU trusted YOUR President's words?

But its not. It never was overblown. Not then. Not now. SARS or H1N1 These also had the potential to be like Covid-19. It never went that way. We have to have warnings. The media NEEDS to report. Our governments HAVE to respond. WE need to protect ourselves. WE need this information to do so. WE as a society do either of two things. 1. We PANIC and dont get proper information and panic some more. 2. We are very lax and dont get proper information and become even MORE lax. 3. BOTH scenarios and we as humans ALWAYS seem to get this conspiracy thing on our minds... Im not panciked. Nor do I take this very lightly either. But Im prepared for the worse. I see what it has done globally and Im ready to close the restaurant if I need to for a couple of days, weeks, months. We all do not know how it will end. What if tomorrow..Covid-19 goes away. Will we say the media over hyped it? I Will we say Italy panicked for nothing? What if this truly becomes the new bubonic plague? Do we know how it will end? We dont! But are you saying that the media should NOT report it and just report hockey scores? We should as a society go bat shyt crazy for the postponed NBA and NHL seasons because this Covid-19 thing is false panic and riot our streets? Or should we just take proper precautions?

Yeah...I know! I just wanted to justify myself to you. I wanted for you to see where I come from. I wanted you to see that I wasn't against you for quoting you, but how frustrated I could be with some humans on our stupid assed planet!!!

The Flu is NOT much worse... You call Italy shutting down as media driven hype??? @USA-1 THAT is what I was referring to... The Prime Minister of Canada is in self isolation... https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/cp-newsalert-trudeau-goes-into-self-isolation-over-covid-19 THAT would also mean media driven hype???

True... https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fabout%2Fprevention-treatment.html There is currently no vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus. The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person. Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet). Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes. These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Take steps to protect yourself Clean your hands often Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds especially after you have been in a public place, or after blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing. If soap and water are not readily available, use a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol. Cover all surfaces of your hands and rub them together until they feel dry. Avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth with unwashed hands. Avoid close contact Avoid close contact with people who are sick Put distance between yourself and other people if COVID-19 is spreading in your community. This is especially important for people who are at higher risk of getting very sick. Take steps to protect others Stay home if you’re sick Stay home if you are sick, except to get medical care. Learn what to do if you are sick. Cover coughs and sneezes Cover your mouth and nose with a tissue when you cough or sneeze or use the inside of your elbow. Throw used tissues in the trash. Immediately wash your hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. If soap and water are not readily available, clean your hands with a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol. Wear a facemask if you are sick If you are sick: You should wear a facemask when you are around other people (e.g., sharing a room or vehicle) and before you enter a healthcare provider’s office. If you are not able to wear a facemask (for example, because it causes trouble breathing), then you should do your best to cover your coughs and sneezes, and people who are caring for you should wear a facemask if they enter your room. Learn what to do if you are sick. If you are NOT sick: You do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask). Facemasks may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers. Clean and disinfect Clean AND disinfect frequently touched surfaces daily. This includes tables, doorknobs, light switches, countertops, handles, desks, phones, keyboards, toilets, faucets, and sinks. If surfaces are dirty, clean them: Use detergent or soap and water prior to disinfection. To disinfect: Most common EPA-registered household disinfectants will work. Use disinfectants appropriate for the surface. Options include: Diluting your household bleach. To make a bleach solution, mix: 5 tablespoons (1/3rd cup) bleach per gallon of water OR 4 teaspoons bleach per quart of water Follow manufacturer’s instructions for application and proper ventilation. Check to ensure the product is not past its expiration date. Never mix household bleach with ammonia or any other cleanser. Unexpired household bleach will be effective against coronaviruses when properly diluted. Alcohol solutions. Ensure solution has at least 70% alcohol. Other common EPA-registered household disinfectants. Products with EPA-approved emerging viral pathogens pdf icon[7 pages]external icon claims are expected to be effective against COVID-19 based on data for harder to kill viruses. Follow the manufacturer’s instructions for all cleaning and disinfection products (e.g., concentration, application method and contact time, etc.). Complete disinfection guidance

Well...we should never panic in any situation. But we shouldnt be so lax and not think about how to protect ourselves either especially saying things like it will blow over and its scare tactics and its the media blowing it out of proportion. When Italy...an entire country of 60 million this time last month had literally zero reasons to think otherwise other than La Vita Bella. And the entire planet for that matter, when 3 weeks ago had a handful of cases and continued life as usual then 3 weeks later the entire country has shut down...with thousands dead... You know...positive attitude is a MUST in these dire times...but we should be aware of the dangers and not take things lightly. 2 days ago...The city of Philadelphia advised the Flyers to play the Bruins game without spectators. The Hockey club said no phoquing way as our fans are salivating to play the Bruins... 2 days later the NBA discovers an NBA player is tested for Covid-19 and halts the season and the NHL follows suit. The Flyers had approx. 20 000 fans that night. What if...ANYBODY in that arena had the virus... You know... hockey players travel to different parts of the continent DAILY... It aint to be taken lightly is alls Im sayin'...