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I dont make fum of hot rodders. If fact...I love the fact that REAL hot rodders wrench on their own vehicles... I dont judge if a wrench monkey changes his own oils on his 2020 Mercedes Benz S Class AMG...because a wrench monkey is an ENTHUSIAST. A person that tries to pass off as a rich guy to me buying used luxury vehicles is just a lame assed fake. I dont buy that depreciation excuse. Like I said... A used 40 000 dollar Bimmer, even if I lived in sunny California means NOTHING to me. Id rather a BRAND NEW FORD FUSION SPORT at that price. Or...a BRAND NEW 20 thousand dollar eco boosted 4 cylinder Fusion for daily driven usages and a USED 20 000 dollar V8 FORD Mustang to complete my enthusiast side of things. But I buy used for ME...not to show somebody else something that I am not. Or a BRAND NEW V8 CHALLENGER at 40 000 dollars to do both... Be my guest...but that used Bimmer...but you aint fooling me... Especially if your used Bimmer is not in 100% perfect condition and your tali lights are burnt and you try to convince me you are good with money and you are some sort of high priced diva.

@dwightlooi The thing is...in Quebec...cars dont last long... In sunny California...cars last 20 years...in makes sense to act like a big shot in sunny California buying a 4-5-6 year old Bimmer, at a discount...and keeping that Bimmer another 10 years... In cold frigid, icy and slushy Quebec, cars last barely a decade. If taken good care of...15 years tops. But daily driven, at 8 years, they look like shyte. At 10 years, they are called beaters and at 15 years they are simply dinosaurs... So... Call me dumb if you want to... Because I told you I was from Quebec...little bells should have been going off. But then again...in sunny California...I gather... Its the Hollywood effect. You look mahvelous....its better to look good than to feel good. I fully comprehend that. But like I said...THAT dont impress me much... Let me ask you a question... Is your reduced priced Bimmer of whatever years old it is... Is it in perfect driving condition? Even living in sunny California, maintenance NEEDS to be made... Or are you like my idiot friends driving around in purty 6-7 year old Bimmers and Audis but the tail lights are burnt because they dont know how to change the light bulbs themselves and they deem the Bimmer or Audi dealership tooo bloody expensive so they leave the tail lights burnt? About that... Do you go to Pep boys to do your oil changes because the Bimmer dealership is expensive or do you change your own oils? But how much of a rich diva are you if you change your own oils on a 5-6-7 year old Bimmer... I know...I know... Depreciation and you saved mucho dineros buying a used Bimmer. Yet maybe too phoquen cheap to get your oils changed at the Beverley Hills Bimmer dealership where they even give you a shampooing for your PAUL MITCHELL haircut and a free latte... In my world... You wanna BE the rich guy... You better be plunking down the money for the rich guy stuff. Meaning, you better have the cash flow necessary to do it day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, decade after decade... If not...GTFO with your fake ass life!!!

Pagliaro...from the 1970s had a few hits as well. Like Gino Vanelli, I still love these songs from him. I was too young to be a true fan, but these two songs define MY Montreal for me. Ive had some great summer nights listening to these songs with some awesome French people that I befriended along the way as one would when one loves his city and its people. Drinking beer on a stereotypical Montreal home balcony or pub terrasse... And April Wine... Although originally from Nova Scotia from our beloved Maritimes, they did make Montreal their home. These guys....again, were a tad before my time, but these guys, I was and continue to be a fan of. CANUCK ROCK RULES!!!!

Same with Corey Hart. Although with Corey Hart, I was more of a fan. He married a French Quebec singer, he himself being half French and half English. Julie Masse. There were a couple of songs I liked from her too back in the day. Including the one I posted down below.

@trinacriabob Just a couple of songs that I really really loved from him. I wasnt a fan of his per se. But those two songs I really really loved then...and now.

Prestige? HA HA HA Not to me...you wont be "prestigious" to me because you bought a used car for 35 000 dollars... To me...you are a fake... a facade... smoke and mirrors Trying to pass a lifestyle that isnt true... And I could see right through that. If you choose to try to flaunt your fake high society status on me...

All that you said above...is a big... YUP!!! The thing is...( warning: anecdote up ahead) I too, talk to Toyoya/Lexus owners. "Reliability" and how "reliable" their cars are ALWAYS comes up when they talk about their Toyotas and Lexuses. They almost always never talk about powertrain numbers, but how smooth and "reliable" their engines run. They talk about how quiet Lexus cars are. The driving wheels almost never comes up in the conversations. Most Quebec drivers are concerned not to get "stuck" in the winter (in the snow). So Im guessing the Lexus salespeople push Lexus CUVs and AWD unto those folk... When I talk to German car owners... Engineering comes up. Although some of them dont care about horsepower and torque and all that, most of them ARE knowledgeable and seem to want to have more of that then the next guy... Its true, some of them dont know the difference between AWD and 4 wheel drive. But most of them DO want AWD instead of RWD so they do NOT get "stuck" in the winter. German car owners, save for maybe the Audi folk, do know that RWD is standard on their cars. They are aware... So...in MY experiences talking to different people, most Quebecois are like Lexus owners, and are like you said But... When talking to German car owners, in MY experience in Montreal, they are like you said... However, they tend to be more knowledgeable and aware about different stats and they DO care about them. A cut above the rest being the enthusiast car owners. the Mustang, Corvette, and Camaro, Porsche, Tesla, AMG, M from BMW, S from Audi, Subaru, Mazda guys...etc. Yes...Subaru and Mazda guys, in Quebec, are very keen about performance stats... German car guys, for the most part, (The AMG, M and S owners) DO want their cars to outperform the competition. The 3 Series/5 Series, C Class/E Class Audi A3/A4 regular trimmed owners, and the CUV people from those makes even if those CUVs are AMG, M and S, are clueless just like the 99% of the population...including the Lexus car owners. This is the difference between Lexus and Audi/Mercedes/BMW...is that with the German manufacturers, there is a subset of owners that are aware and are enthusiasts and horsepower and the latest tech IS important to them. Subaru guys are enthusiasts because of AWD. Mazda guys are enthusiasts because Mazda cars ARE more fun to drive then the mundane appliances that GM/Ford/Honda/Toyota sell us... THIS is my take on it...

Depreciation when used as how one model or brand devalues faster than another is just marketing bullshyte... Its what you value... If you value one brand over another, you pay more for that used car... Here we are...praising the merits of depreciation so we could buy that used car of our dreams, on the cheap...stretching our dollar value... yet we are praising the lower depreciation values of some brands over others... ILLOGICAL argument to me... In fact...when there is a trade-in to be made at the stealership... The stealership...will ALWAYS find problems with your car, no matter WHAT make it is...to DEVALUE your car so they could give you LESS money for it... Lexus, Cadillac, Chevrolet.....it dont matter...in a trade-in...deprecation means diddly squat. On a Lexus...the stealership WILL find defects to DEVALUE your beloved, low depreciation LEXUS. On a Cadillac, it may or may not be a reason....but the same problems that plague the Lexus will be used on your Cadillac to DEVALUE it... Then, in turn...you refuse to trade in your LOWER depreciating car as compared to the HIGHER depreciating models, so you sell it privately in hoping you get a sucker to buy into that reliability game so you could get top dollar for your car, which then makes YOU the sleazy salesman...because YOU dont want to be the sucker at the stealership. Irony... Its just a game...this brand depreciates faster than that brand... Its a marketing gimmick...that the Japanese makers have used... Its a GREAT tool... But to me...like I said... A daily driven car over a certain period of time is worth the same as any other daily driven car with the same time elapsed... I wouldnt want to buy a used 3-4 year old car that was once a high priced vehicle....I would rather buy a NEW car that is "worth" the same... Because...THAT is it...to me...a used car, may NOT be worth the asking price...depending how maintained it was. How much damage it sustained... Nobody knows what the original owner did to that car. Yes...everybody has bought a GREAT used car that was driven by a little old lady driving to church once a week. It was driven ONLY to church and the church happened to ex-communicate her as well... And what value to you place on a car like that? If it was a Lexus? If it was a Cadillac? Like I said...its a game...

1. When I was a kid, you put a big V8 or a Corvette engine or something in a ’32 Ford and now kids are starting to do electric hot-rodding. They’re still making the car go faster but it’s an electric engine instead of an internal-combustion engine. I think electrification is going very well,” he said. “It’s a natural extension of what’s been happening 2. When I came to Los Angeles in the 1970s, there were 160 days a year when they told you not to go outside because the pollution was so bad. Now, here it is 40 years later, you have easily five to 10 times the number of cars with less than a tenth of the pollution. “I mean, it’s not the cleanest air in the world, obviously, but it’s way better, and we don’t have smog days anymore when they tell you not to go outside and not to exercise. I mean, it’s all good. I mean, I’m one of those people who believes that engineers will save the world While yes...when you want to close your eyes and ears to a future NOT involving EVs...then yeah...you could say that engineers and politicians with CAFE standards have GREATLY reduced the smog in Los Angeles...and its the ICE vehicle that did that...so therefore...you discredit by saying stuff like this: Because...even in your own post....you even mention it...not realizing it what you just said... ZERO EMISSION ones... ZERO EMISSION... THIS is how I made MY connection with engineers and saving the planet and EVs... And I think THIS is where HE was going with it too... Everything else is dis-ingenuousness... Including if we think that ICE is the way to go for our future going forward in NOT polluiting our planet even further... Yes...no matter what humans do...we will always pollute... But the goal is to reduce our footprint... YOU said it yourself ZERO EMISSION... Yes...yes... Batteries are not all that clean. They are cleaner than the gases that ICE vehicles spew...

Wrong answer.

Part of that reason is the overall consumer's perception of Cadillac versus...lets say...Lexus. (Given Cadillac's missteps of the past...haunting Cadillac over and over and over again) Another reason is the marketing bullshyte that some manufacturer's marketing department spews over and over and over again about depreciation...again...lets say...Lexus...so the overall perception of Lexus versus Cadillac favours Lexus... A 10 year old daily driven car in Quebec that has over 150 000 miles, no matter what brand and make it is, is worth the same...to me at least... Because it will have the same rust issues, the same wear and tear on its steering and suspenions due to shytty, pot holed roads... So...whether you buy a 80 000 dollar Cadillac, Mercedes...or a 20 000 dollar Ford or Honda, or a 40 000 dollar Buick, Volvo...after 10 years daily driven in Montreal, for me at least, will be worth at most 2000 dollars... That is why I dont look at used cars in Quebec... Depreciation is great...like you said.... I could get a great deal on a used 3-4 year old Mercedes... But why would I wanna do that? I would rather buy a new car...the same price as that 3-4 year old Mercedes...a brand new Ford... I dont value badges... I value NEW...

Is that the message you got from that?

https://www.wheels.ca/news/jay-leno-auto-collection/ A car guy...JAY LENO... HE sees it... HE tells it like it is... THERE IS A MESSAGE in that little paragragh. SEVERAL messages...its up to you guys to figure it out... But the message is LOUD and CLEAR to what I JUST SAID and Jay Leno backs me up!!! In fact....Jay Leno made me realize it.... Him and others... No politician....no whack job scientist for or against climate change... But real deal people that have an idea of what is going on... Some of those are car guys, some of them are scientists with no clear bias...for and against climate change...because I listen to all...but these guys I listen to ONLY present the facts...NOT their opinions... And its easy for me to figure out...because I am informed... But hey... lets continue the way we are going...nothing bad could happen, right?

Yeah...I figured as much...

I guess climate change is not real. OK...climate change IS real, but NOT because of humanity...because the history of the planet tells us that its just a normal part of the Earth's life cycle I guess its foolish to think that humans could influence millions of years of Earth's evolution... But then again...humans could actually create life...the way Earth created life millions of years ago...and it only took humans a mere 10 000 years to accomplish that...so yeah...its foolish to think that humans could interfere with Earth's life cycles...(sarcasm) EVs...are just a part of a solution that humans think is the right thing to do...with the information we have today. JUST like how we used to kill whales for their blubber to make oil to heat our houses and we saw that this was not a good solution to keeping us warm when we discovered oil... NOW...oil is becoming the focus so we do NOT extinct ourselves... JUST like how we used to use paper bags for our groceries and saw that we are killing our forests...we banned that practice for plastic, but now was saw that THAT solution is not good, se we are reverting back to...paper... And THAT last one seems like a good argument for oil usage for our cars...but... ICE pollutes... Whether we like it or not... ICE pollutes... There is no: We gotta find a BETTER solution for our transportation needs... I stand by that comment whether anyone wants to agree with it or not... But...I got Los Angeles, Beijing, Athens, London on my side... SMOG from ICE...

ICE no longer works for reasons that you will never want to admit too. And if you analyze in hindsight...what horses can do...a little manure on the street is preferable than all the shyte that comes out of that tailpipe, regardless of how far and clean gasoline engines have become for 2019...

Not with that drivetrain... But...ya'll gotta admit. The average Lexus owner does not care about that stuff. While the drivetrain is antiquated, the average Lexus owner believes in this mantra: "If it aint broke, dont fix it." Reliable? I dont know enough about Toyota SUV products to comment on that. But I do know that there are certain SUVs from Toyota that are bullet proof. Again...the same mantra goes for reliability regarding Lexus owners: "If it aint broke, dont fix it." So...while we can argue about passionately about Lexus products...their business model is passionless...and it works just fine for them. What I find Lexus is missing the mark, is they want to infuse a little bit of passion in their designs and Predator Face just falls flat...

Since when did talking about a Lexus product become soooo....passionate?

No different than having a factory wing on a 1999 Olds Alero Or on a 442. Maybe on the 442, it hindered aerodynamics rather it being neutral. Its for looks. (On MOST rides) The front part of the car above is boy racer, but functional...the rear part of the car...is purely for looks. Nothing wrong with that as it compliments the look and feel for what the Trans Am (Firebird/Firehawk)wants to pass of as. Same with the Olds 442. And Mustang. On the Alero though, it makes NO SENSE at all as the Alero went for a sophisticated, luxury look. I had a 1999 Alero coupe GLS...with that rear spoiler...HATED the spoiler. I understand what you are saying. I agree with it. To a point. I wanted to explain to you and others that care to read my post that on certain cars, rear spoilers, whether functional or not, work out, for others, not so much! For the record: On a regular ecoboost Mustang or GT, a spoiler free rear works best for me too!!!

I also like the 2 Series. Strangely enough, I like it because its the only BMW currently for sale that captures what BMW is was all about. I was never a fan of the BMW experience but it seems I always go against the grain with what is popular for BMW. I always like the opposite of what BMW produces that is popular for the most part.

OK... About this bespoke M car from BMW. This car came to mind I dont think a bespoke M car will revive the fire of M cars. I think BMW did too many M versions of CUVs and SUVs that watered down the image. I think their 5 Series and 3 Series cars became tooo bloated for the M version of those to actually mean something also... Add to the fact that the generations of folk that bought vehicles AFTER the 1990s dont care for performance and what you got now is an M brand down in the dumps... Good luck BMW, but you wanted to sell Sports Activity Vehicles to peoples...and forgot what got you great in the first place. Oh well...

edited... before my time for editing was up...and I changed it up so I dont insult you too much....before you go crying to Drew...

At least you got that far.... Question is... Did. You. u-n-d-e-r-s-t-a-n-d ? Maybe I should write in the style of Dr Seuss for you? To keep you happy and focused?

If we are going to take this literally, a vehicle is an inanimate object. Therefore passion is non-existent by definition. So...literally speaking...if one wants emotion for his/her transportation, then a horse or donkey or camel is the only way to go... If...we are going to humanize inanimate objects...then it doesnt really matter what we find passionate. We get it, you dont like electric power for whatever dumb ass reason... And I respect your stance on you not finding electric power passionate... But Tesla owners ARE passionate about their cars...so you maybe, for you and you only, electric cars are not passionate, That statement is false...in more than one way... So down vote this post to your heart's content and tell me there are too many words in it for you to read and understand...

On the flip side Those brakes (both disc and pads) are not "blingy" enough (for the riciest version A-Spec) and on top of all that...I find they are too small as well(both disc and pads) for performance requisites...but I'm sure they do an adequate job of stopping. Im OK with fake hood scoops and blingy, over the top, boy racer styling....if they compliment the look and feel of the car. If it the car (factory or custom) has a certain (boy) racer look about it, and mission, and go-fast, bolt-on high performance parts are put unto the car and to compliment that look further, boy racer accessories are added...Im all for it!!!