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Crazy Town...Butterfly Your post made me think of this song. And look...beaucoup tats and piercings.
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Industry News: Trump Raises Tariffs on All Mexican Goods
oldshurst442 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Industry News
What obsession are you talking about? What is it you are talking about when you say is this going to continue? Then you bring in Trudeau from a whole different country and you accuse people from another country and your own countrymen of the "tolerant left", if that was an insult and a bad thing...yet YOU are the one to insult, accuse of ruining the country for not being united? Like WTF dude??!!! Take a look in the mirror, man...intolerance is what is killing your country...and see who truly is the one NOT to want to get along... -
Polynesian culture I believe, right? Not for me either. But I do find it interesting. But Ill be honest and tell you that Im shallow! If ugly human beings have tattoos, male or female, I HATE them. If attractive humans have tattoos, or if the tattoos fit their physique and personality...I find that to be HOT! Quite contradictory, right? But yeah! Forgetting that this dude IS Polynesian, I think he is hot and badass for his tattoos. If George Clooney was a criminal and had this type of tattoo, Id think he would be hot hot hot for having this tattoo. It works for me! Here...a regular dude with a similar motif. I would NEVER cheat on my wife...but Ill tell you one thing though, if I was in my 20s or 30s...man-o-man I would soooooo try to be her one night stand and hers And hers... She has a certain look that she wants to portray and her hair colour and colour and style of tats, just works for her...and I have great lust... But this...NO PHOQUING WAY. Like hit the gym dude, like shave your face, do something...because...it aint working. And that tattoo.. DUDE???!!! WTF???!!!
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This is all wrong... You are going with base Corvette pricing IGNORING the high end Corvettes...while also looking at muscle car ending mid 1970s Corvettes...but at the same time...ignoring the fact that those smog era Corvettes ALSO took the Corvette to another level in its existence. Those smog era Corvettes became DISCO cars in which LUXURY was the focus... and you guessed it...RAISED the prices on the Corvettes...this is the time where the Corvette added a new role to its image...that of a GT car... You are sooooo all over the place... The Corvette has ALWAYS adapted to the market...it became what it needed to become to survive in the market place. Bottom line is this: The C8 HAS to be mid-engined. The Corvette NEEDED to be mid-engined a decade ago. And yes, the Corvette NEEDS to stay "affordable" (AFFORDABLE IN QUOTATION MARKS "affordable") because even in base form, affordability was always with a question mark... But the Corvette NEEDS to seek NEW types of buyers too. It wont hurt Corvette for pushing the limits of price on the HIGH END of Corvettes when Corvette WILL BE PUSHING PERFORMANCE AS WELL... You know the Mercedes 1 million dollar F1 supercar you keep on talking about? YEAH! Corvette WILL be nipping at its heels performance wise... You could deny that all you want...but THAT is what Corvette does...it always did that. And yeah...for that kind of performance with that kind of technology...you better believe that it will cost a lot of dough. And the Corvette WILL have that state of the art technology to be able to compete with 1 million dollar cars... It wont mean the Corvette will sell for 1 million dollars, but it will mean that the Corvette WILL go up up up in price... NO...NOT the base Corvette...the TOP OF THE LINE Corvette! And the TOP OF THE LINE Corvettes were ALWAYS stratospherically expensive relative to the market place of its time...
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Not at all what I said... Again...stop pretending you dont understand what is written. Maybe you got biased blinders on, but you surely aint that stupid to understand what was written and what has been going on with Corvette the last 67 years...
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In all fairness, the Passat, and especially the 2nd generation Passat, along with the Corrado did push Volkswagen into a different brand position. Those pushed VW a tad more upscale to where they once were. The Corrado was expensive for what it was. It was faster than anything VW had put out and was quite desirable. The 1st generation Passat introduced North Americans to what VW aspires to be. Both the Corrado and 1st generation Passat showed North Americans that VW need not be hippie inspired, peace loving transportation pods. They both introduced North Americans to an image that VW need not be your daughter's graduation convertible present either. Both the Corrado and 1st generation Passat helped VW get out of that teenager image they had with Herbie the Love Bug, Bumblebee the Transformer, VW Rabbit Cabriolet/Rabbit GTi/Golf Gti/Diesel and matured the brand to where adults other than pot smoking, peace loving, muscle car hatin' hippies could buy a mature automobile. The Corrado was a much more refined, more upscale slightly faster and more importanly, a more mature Scirocco. The 2nd generation Passat just cemented that idea where VW is not only mature, more upscale, but dare VW say premium? Premium and more upscale, European (German luxury) at lesser prices than an Audi, Mercedes and BMW... Because, the 2nd generation Passat really was THAT good of a car. It was Oldsmobile/Buick (for 1990s Olds and Buick images). It was Acura. It was Audi. (It literally WAS Audi as it was a stretched Audi A4...and THAT is when Audi took off as well...) It was a good looking sedan with great luxury features for a car priced the way it was. Which was high for VW but people accepted it and bought into it. So much so, that the VW CC was a very successful, sporty AND luxurious Passat a few generations after the mid 1990s... Where the Phaeton failed, the CC succeeded, only for VW to let it wither on the vine too long... The Phaeton just went too far upscale too fast. But in all honesty, VW at that point in time, really was on an upward swing.
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Logically, the C8 will have a slightly higher base price than the C7 because every new generation Corvette always bumped up the base price. Another slight bump up would be because this C8 will be a departure from the norm. But on the flip side, GM/Chevrolet has been doing this since 1953. The Corvette has a built-in customer base since 1953 that expect a car in that familiar base price range. GM/Chevrolet will not deviate from that drastically. GM/Chevrolet big wigs have publicly said so that the C8 will NOT increase in price drastically as to not alienate their base price, meat and potatoes, customer base. The higher end ZR1 equivalent C8 will probably be at the highest level pricing of any Corvette to date. THIS is the Corvette probably to push not only performance levels to new heights, but price levels too. And THAT is OK...because EVERY Corvette since Corvettes started PUSHING the performance levels higher and higher ALSO had their price tags go higher and higher too... So I dont really get the phobia of the C8 being expensive. Base Corvettes were more or less "affordable". Higher end Pontiac and Oldsmobile levels of affordability. But the high end Corvettes were always out of reach for the MAJORITY of the American people at prices that were in the high end luxury vehicle prices such as Cadillacs and Lincolns back when Cadillacs and Lincolns WERE the ONLY luxury vehicles consdidered by the filthy rich... Rolls Royces were simply niche....MOST 1%ers of the time didnt even bother with Rolls Royces. Only the oldest of the old money, the stuffiest of the stuffiest bought Rolls Royces. And even then, these people had their Rolls Royces, but they also had their Cadillac or Lincolns too. Because, even though Rolls Royces WERE Rolls Royces, NOTHING said that you had money and made it in life more than a Cadillac. More to it than that, nothing put an exclamation mark more than arriving at a destination than arriving in a Cadillac. With that being said...after 66-67 years of Corvettes...the pricing formula has NEVER changed, and for the C8, GM and Chevrolet big wigs have confirmed that NOTHING will change in that regard either... This every man's sports car that is a Corvette is NOT only defined by its more or less affordable base price...but MAINLY because the Corvette sells BY THE THOUSANDS... THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY the Corvette is considered as the every day man's sports car. The pre-owned used Corvette that is 5-6-7-8-9-10 years old... Those Corvettes are DIRT CHEAP to buy as there are LITERATELY THOUSANDS of them to choose from. In alll kinds of conditions in all kinds of colours and options... And BECAUSE the AFTERMARKET PERFORMANCE support and community is SOOOOO HUGE for the Corvette, a Corvette that is LITERATELY 20 years old, it could EASILY KEEP UP with performance with EXOTICS that cost 3-4-5 times MORE and that are BRAND NEW!!!
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Volvo's brand identity in the US is safety? Coming at a time when folk like Ralph Nader are making headlines? Would that be an accurate statement? I would think so. Volvo was a pioneer in safety. Volvo made a huge name for itself because of safety. Yes, their cars were dull also at a time when Detroit was selling style at a time when folk like Nader was voicing a loud...voice. At a time when the automobile was just starting to be seen as an evil entity...at a time when world politics was at fever pitch. This is when VW also started to become popular with a subset of Americans opposing world stage politics... Is THAT a fair assessment? Anyway... I would never buy a Volvo...but there are a couple of models in their history that I think are cool that do an excellent job of being...Swedish.
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Corvettes were sold before there even was Lambos for sale...two decades before, almost... Corvettes, the high end Corvettes, were always priced as high as Cadillacs... Cadillacs, were always the highest priced vehicles on the road...of the mass produced variety...and not hand made...like Rolls Royces...and not limited produced...like I said...mass produced...up until the early 1970s... Yeah...I know...you said exotics. But that is what Rolls and Ferraris and Lambos are... A Corvette was never an exotic....its DOMESTIC... It dont matter, this was at a time when Ferraris sold 50 cars a year...or so... Corvettes were always about being mass produced. Corvettes sold by the thousands... Corvettes were never about exclusivity. THAT is what makes an exotic car, an exotic car. And it being a foreign car...you know...not American Domestic Market... But...Corvettes were just about as expensive as expensive could be for a DOMESTIC product... Corvettes were American exotics as like if a European or Middle Eastern buyer wanted to buy a Corvette, he would most definitely pay like he was buying a Ferrari to have his Corvette in his European or Middle Eastern country back in the day... Like I said...learn your automotive history and stop trying to weasel your nonsense with me...
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Again...who says that Cadillac cannot be both? Mercedes is doing that exactly... Problem for Cadillac is that when they should have had an Evoq in their line-up, they fudged it up big time with the ELR. They then could have had the Cien in their line-up eventually had they NOT fudged up the ELR. They could had done the Ciel at the same time as the ELR, and if they'd done the Ciel right, then the El Miraj would have been with us too. But chances are they'd flub the Ciel as well... But now...that ship has sailed. The BMW wannabe aspirations have long since passed with folk buying cars. As of NOW...people want old skool Cadillacs. Proof? The Escalade just keeps on steam rolling the competition.... But...if Cadillac embraces their past and they do old skool the right way...then who says Cadillac cant do sports cars? Listen...you do have an honest opinion about why Cadillac flubs it, but you also go overboard with it... Tone it done...stop being so hypocritical...
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Nope. That is NOT what Cadillac is all about. I guess Cadillac could have a super sport car above the Corvette... but before they do that... they need this Where did you ever get this zany idea that Corvettes are attainable? Top of the line Vettes were ALWAYS expensive... Top of the line Vettes were ALWAYS about being the fastest machines they could be... Top of the line Vettes have always been about state of the art engineering... Stop with this BS you keep on ragging about Corvette, man! You KNOW its not true what you say...so why you say it?
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You see it on a Camaro . Super Sport. Rallye Sport. Rallye Sport? Vat is dis Rallye Sport you speak of? Ah yes...from 1973 to 2019. Well..Racing Sport in THIS case...
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Ive been saying a version of this for a while now! Im glad that a few passionate people about Cadillac, and GM, are voicing their opinions. If we are NOT happy about our beloved Cadillac...lets start shouting that out loud!!! RAISE A LITTLE HELL!!! (Canuck Rock Rules!!! )
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Industry News: Trump Raises Tariffs on All Mexican Goods
oldshurst442 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Industry News
WOW! Now I truly understand why all the downvotes... Anyway... Here is a little video I found a couple of months ago...maybe we could all laugh at the hilarity of this dude's editing! Its really funny. I laugh my a$$ off every time I see it! -
Im gonna telll you a story, a little story about Gloria. Down by the river, there was a girl named Gloria. Gloria seems like she is always on the run. Running after somebody thinking that she'll get him somehow. She needs to slow down because she will start to blow it. She is definitely heading for a breakdown. Gloria is one frustrated woman....she MUST be from Boston!!!
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Balthy with his cherry pics of...cherry dresses and 'smoking' hot tomato girls ...has got me thinking about this song
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Me too. But not for Mexican. I want pizza I think!
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Industry News: Trump Raises Tariffs on All Mexican Goods
oldshurst442 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Industry News
I love the States, man! I love your country almost as much as I love my own! It pains me to see and hear all that is happening in your country. Ill stop with the political stuff. Only because reality of what our countries have done to other countries is hard to accept by some of us...yes...including Canada.... -
In light with everything that is going on in politics today...
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Yeah...cherries... They way she's lookin' at the camera, her cherry has been p...let's just say that she fooled many at the alter by wearing white...
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Industry News: Trump Raises Tariffs on All Mexican Goods
oldshurst442 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Industry News
All this does NOT concern YOU or the United States OF America... You know what? THIS concerns YOU and the United States OF America... IRONY is that...those shythole countries YOU wanna talk about, well, a lot...a lot of similarities exist... Yet another public shooting...this one is fresh. It happened YESTERDAY... From Fox news so YOU dont say to me its #fakenews... https://www.foxnews.com/us/at-least-12-deaths-and-several-injuries-at-virginia-beach-municipal-complex-police-say-shooter-also-dead-reports Always looking at other's crap, while ignoring your own... I guess THAT is how you will get great moving forward... -
Industry News: Trump Raises Tariffs on All Mexican Goods
oldshurst442 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Industry News
Lets be fair though... But...once a liar...always a liar... Once a blowhard...always a blowhard... http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/02/the-tale-of-donald-trumps-dotted-history-with-cadillac/ -
Ummmm...Pontiac died a few years after that... You sure its a good idea???