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OK. This is simple. Which Black and Red ride would you rather have? M-B G-Wagon Hamman tuned edition. Or the A-Team Van 1983 GMC VANDURA

Another bump just in case you MOFOS finally got to know the song and now actually have an opinion on it! Or maybe not! I know I STILL LOVE the song!

Well.. after talking about Nazis in another thread The only way Id like to see a German "wagen" is this way! Whether it be a "G", "Panzerkammpf" or "Volks"

Off topic. And it concerns American politics and Im Canadian, so I aint offended by this, but as a Canadian who had a dad fight in WW2 and as of Greek origin who Nazi Germany made a mess out of Greece....and the whole of Europe actually, and all kinds of genocides..... Referring and alluding to modern, democratic politicians as related to that short man with the mustache irks the hell out of me. (not to pin this solely on Hyper and the Hitlerary comment, but generally speaking as many do this, even Canadians do this with Steven Harper...some of us Canucks compared his party to the Nazis...) Hillary has lied. Many times. The Clintons have all kinds of fraud allegations connected to their name. Bill Clinton. Forgetting his intern relationship that he had no sexual relations, which is on him, his marriage and his commitment to Hillary and the knot they both tied that defines his relationship with his better half and God...because God was a witness to that bond in matrimony...at least that romp was consensual..therefore who a I to judge him? HOWEVER....how many other "non-sexual" relationships were of the free will of his victims? Not for me to judge, but there are stories out there...and often is the case, where there is smoke, there is fire. But...with all that going on with the Clintons, and as it turns out, Steven Harper, or Angela Merkel with the Brexit debacle...I serious doubt that all of them combined have come close to the evil that is Hitler! So Id like to say, in general.... Please, let us refrain with the Nazi comparisons...if it aint about ISIS or Hussein or Stalin or some other real evil entity...

Could be Mr. DFELT. I dont follow the SUVs as I hate them so I dont know what is what with them.

Wonder if GM might be too hungry...still waiting to see how the nearly 30k hatches are going to do. (keeping in mind most will be loaded LT or Premier trims) Being built in mexico, and with the Focus hatch still starting under 20k-should be interesting. While I love the car, 26-30 for a compact hatch? While I'm not thrilled about the chinese part of the Envision, if it comes out successful it will US built pretty quick. I think Buick needs to be careful here....be bang for buck....and be careful not to jump to caddy price wise.... If they feel they need to charge a little more, give folks a reason and something different, like a Grand Sport model or something..... This aint no different than the German built Buick Regal the first year the Regal was out...(in reference to the Chinese built Buick Envision) Tooling needs to be made in North American factories... And correct me if Im wrong...originally the Envision was not supposed to be sold in North America. I personally dont have a problem with a Chinese built Envision. Its all this "Toyota and Honda are more American than Ford/GM/Chrysler" bullshyte because they manufacture some cars here that has phoqued up the mentality and made us schizophrenic about this sorta thing.

CCAP It was the Land Cruiser Series 70 that Toyota reproduced for Japan and Australia for 1 year. 30th anniversary. Updated with modern engines and I dont remember what else...

Help me understand your reference, which in turn will help me understand your post. Who is this Sheridan you speak of?

But..this aint because Tesla's tech failed.... This is still HUMAN error.... Tesla's system is still called SEMI-autonomous driving... Anybody that wants to say otherwise is on a witch hunting of their own... It seems like some of us still have some Salem Puritan ways of thinking...

To be fair... If this was GM...the media would have been louder than it has been so far than it has with Tesla... Also....as much cult following Tesla has got, which irks many, which in turn makes for many to hate Tesla....the hatred that people have for GM is not even comparable therefore many many many people would have called for Mary Barra's head... Lets us be honest...GM's CEOs and engineers would have been severely scrutinized and GM cannot afford this type snafu, , while Musk and Tesla are getting off pretty darned easy... Not that Musk or Tesla should be getting any flack...but like I said, if this was GM....the witch hunting would have been intense...

Makes you think had GM still kept building Hummer H1s, H2s and H3s...and expanded with the HX concept...

Problem is Suave... Balthy is ALREADY vocal AGAINST sub-ATS class Cadillacs. He is CONSTANTLY telling us he HATES this sub-ATS idea and he also tells us that Cadillac needs NOT to chase volume either! Balthy is very consistent in his thought processes. There are biases of course....but who hasnt got any? I know I do!!! Disclaimer: I try to be as honest and consistent in my thought processes also. My opinions sometimes have bias in them...that is what opinions are for... (That is why I HATE -1 votes without explanations! But I believe I have beat that thing to death! EDIT: BALTHY beat me to it. I think he could defend himself quite good....he dont need me....he pities the fool that thinks otherwise.

Id like to add 3 more songs to my repertoire for riding a motorcycle....aint gonna happen because I dont do bikes, but I sure can appreciate what they represent! Im gonna repeat...Im a car guy...a muscle car guy. Old or new.... But Rock-N-Roll on the open road goes with both!!!

I dont see that at all... But then again, It is cursive.... Maybe I go to the dépanneur and buy me a two-four of that aforementioned Lowenbrau and when I get dizzy enough, Ill see it!

OK....I quite certain that the last 3 letters are: rau Why? well...you did say Austrian....and the first thing that came to my mind is the German beer

YUP! ITS A TESLA!!!

I like the way you're thinking... Imagine if GM cheapens out on a sensor for a couple of cents on their version of the autonomous driving Bolt like they did with the Cobalt/Pontiac G5/HHR debacle? At least in Tesla's case, one could still chalk it up to human error as the idiot was watching a movie or playing video games rather than being attentive like the fine print says that one should do when engaging in autonomous driving mode... Listen, this has nothing to do with Tesla...it has everything to do with EVERY STUPID CAR MAKER AND SILICON VALLEY A-HOLES that think that they could save us from ourselves... VOLVO Mercedes-Benz Google Tesla General Motors and many more... Tesla happens to have the first death because Tesla is the first to put to market this shyte.... which is not true because Volvo and I think Mercedes Lories have this shyte on their 18 wheelers....difference is truckers are attentive because they got cameras in their rigs filming their every move!!! When Volvo and Mercedes-Benz and GM and Google that has partnered up with FCA (I thing they have partnered up with FCA to program this shyte as they dont engineer and produce vehicles) will have their share of technology malfunction in their passenger vehicles and knock on wood.....not too many idiot people will die from this shyte!!! Darwinism or not...it is still a bloody shame for such carnage.

This is another way supercars get sold: "special editions" Ferrari is introducing 350 special editions cars. 70 different versions of each model currently in its lineup to celebrate its 70th birthday. Lamborghini is making a special edition Aventador or whatever model it is to commemorate the Miura's anniversary. Ford is introducing special edition GT to commemorate the original GT40 that won Lemans... This method eerily reminds me of another tactic... Anyhoo, its nice to see that the Viper will go out feeling wanted.

Thanx CCAP for the compliment on that Viper pic. I thought Id pay an homage to the Viper now that its gone. (or soon to be gone) Riding into the sunset....that was the theme... I figured the Viper is as American as it gets. I figured the Viper is viewed in the same way as a Cowboy is viewed. Rugged, tough, ballsy, and at times an outlaw... A Cowboy is as American as it gets and when he rides off into the sunset, it means good-bye. So I scoured the internet to find that perfect Viper in the sunset pic... I think I succeeded!

Well, Suave... Like I said...easily distracted drivers should not be able to be legally driving....Lyft and Uber and Taxi service and public transportation is as autonomous driving as it gets... And...I agree with you...this kind of accident was inevitable and many more to come. As for the fine print....some of us read it, some of us dont, but all of us NEVER listen to the message anyway... Fine print is only good for the lawyers of those that produce the fine print to absolve any fault... Its best that this 'helpful' technology go away... Its time to re-evaluate how we teach people how to drive...

So....if it takes driver awareness to be able to have driver interaction to help autonomous driving prevent an accident....then what is the point? 1. Just be aware while you drive in the first place and cut this shyte with LCD screens and GPS maps and connectivity and JUST DRIVE the PHOKING CAR!!! Do away with all these sensors and aids that are supposedly there to help us...they dont help us...they make us rely on them and make us lazier and dumber in the process... 2. DONT GIVE DRIVERS LICENSES TO EVERY TOM, DICK and HARRY... Let these distracted and/or poor reflexes and poor judgement human beings use Lyft and Uber services if those people dont want or cant use public transportation...

Ive got many questions that seems that NOBODY wants to ask or answer... 1. Uber drivers...do they actually own their cars? Because the way I read into things is that most Uber drivers dont even own the cars they drive.... So who is stuck doing the maintenance on them? The rental agencies? And when a whole bloody fleet of rental cars get too old, who gets stuck with the bill of replacing these cars? Because if more and more Lyft and Uber drivers are more and more enticed to rent rather than use their own cars, without any government body being able to enforce usage of good working order vehicles to taxi people around because as we all know....Lyft and Uber is NOT a taxi service.... Yeah yeah...I know....we dont want Big Brother telling us when and how to maintain our vehicles...but I as a passenger in a Uber car, because renting will be expensive as it seems nobody wants to repair and the renter renting the traditional way will fit the bill.....have a right NOT having the wheels fall off or the brakes failing while I use their service and as a USER of the road in MY OWN car ALSO has that right NOT TO BE KILLED by a Uber car failing due to NO SERVICE being made to the Uber car by slamming into me.... 2. I wonder if all these idiot Uber drivers, the ones that actually use their own cars, ever calculate the REAL costs of wear and tear maintenance, because if they did, I dont think they would be Uber drivers... 3. Which begs the question? Why is Uber allowed to circumvent the laws in place in which they are allowed to say they are NOT a taxi service... All what this does is just pass the buck around for faulty maintenance done on vehicles meant to carry passengers as a business...that is why a Taxi license exists in the first place....it may be a tax grab to some eyes....but there are laws protecting the buying customer with the other drivers sharing the road.... Its funny.... People that have old cars are submitted to all kinds of examinations to ensure that their old beater is road worthy, authentic taxi cars too, yet Uber and Lyft cars....NADA.... And when a 2-3 year old Lyft/Uber car becomes too dilapidated and Lyft/Uber change for another car and the process continues....who fits that bill? Because there will be an over saturation of cars at this point in time...over time.... So Lyft/Uber wont change cars? So....a 6 year old Lyft/Uber car aint old by time, so the government wont be able to track the car to take it off the road, but by mileage....the thing will be a shytebox...so who will take care of that? Long rant..I dont know if anybody understood it....I dont care really... Alls I know is I HATE Uber and Lyft because they have fooled many with their circumventing.... NO! NO THEY DID NOT REINVENT HOW TO TAXI PEOPLE AROUND....THEY ARE CIRCUMVENTING THE LAWS!!! WHAT...THE FANCY APPS IS WHAT THEY DID? A MERE TELEPHONE CALL DOES THE SAME PHOKING THING!!! ON THE SAME PHOKING DEVICE ONE USES THE APP, ONE COULD USE THE PHOKING PHONE!!! AND TECHNICALLY, IN PHONE MODE, ONE COULD SAY THEY ARE USING THE PHONE APP!!! AND IF ONE OWNS A IPOD, ONE COULD ACTUALLY DOWNLOAD AN ACTUAL PHONE APP TOO!!!

Greek porc or chicken souvlaki/brochette marinade: In a bowl, add olive oil and mix in garlic, oregano, lemon juice, salt(or chicken base, but stay off of the chicken base as it has MSG and this is about healthy stuff) and pepper. Dip the meat in the mixture, cover, and refrigerate overnight. BBQ the next day. Marinade good for 10-14 days. Disregard marinade after use. You could baste the marinade on the meat while BBQing once or twice, just keep in mind that its oil you are splattering around so you must be aware of fire flare-ups. All ingredients are measured to taste... Greek chicken in the oven? Same ingredients as the marinade. A tad of olive oil on top of chicken to help brown, salt, pepper, oregano, garlic cloves and lemon slices on the side...squeeze some juice on top of chicken before setting the slices in the pot... Simple as that. No secret to greek cuisine. Same ingredients....lemon, garlic and oregano. Of course we use other spices too, but those are the 3 main ones... Tzatziki as a side dish dip is always a good idea. For the meat and for veggies.. Tomatoes, cucumbers, celery etc...eat it with pita bread. Lightly coat both sides of the pita bread with a mixture of olive oil and lemon juice and oregano and place it on the BBQ slightly browning both sides. Ingredients for tzatziki: Greek yogurt, grated cucumber....lemon juice and garlic...lots of garlic... Indian food is more rich and colourful in taste in my opinion. But I do prefer Greek cuisine over Indian cuisine...only because my taste buds have been pre-programmed to be in a Greek state of mind. Im just sorry that I did not get into Indian cuisine earlier in my life. But this is about health and not taste preference. Greek cuisine uses a lot of olive oil, lemon and garlic to which all three contribute in fighting bad cholesterol and help burn bad fat...but being active helps activate these features...

Like I said CCAP, I aint judging you for liking it.. I am judging the decisions that M-B is partaking to fill every niche... This is a thought that M-B should NOT be striving for in the North American market. Fine for Europe. Fine for Africa and some parts of Asia...but NOT for North America. As North Americans, we have a disposable way of thinking. If its cheap, we dont value it and throw it away and we consume another one... Over time, when M-B saturates our market with these types of "affordable" and less than royalty vehicles on our roads, we will make a connection that M-B is mainstream and cheap when all these affordable M-Bs will be rusting on our streets like POS Chevys and Fords.... In Europe, Europeans KNOW the history of M-B and M-B is kinda the home town favorite... In North America, we were ALWAYS led to believe that M-B was ALWAYS an UBER luxury brand because of the 1920s and 1930s era M-Bs and when M-B got back on its feet in the 1950s after WW2, North America ONLY GOT the luxury cars and NOT the mainstream cars and work trucks.... 50...80....100 years of luxury perception will go up in smoke the way M-B is handling this in North America... Dont believe me? Cadillac was ALWAYS a luxury brand...ALWAYS....never mainstream....Cadillac NEVER had to go this way....Cadillac Cimarron aside... Ghostbusters in 1984 and in 2016 makes us believe that Cadillacs are shyte boxes because of that sole mistake Cadillac made in the 1980s.... And selling large barges to old folk did not help... So....what do YOU think will happen to M-B perception when all these CLAs, GLAs, C Class cars are rotting on our streets along side Camrys, Civics and Fusions....especially when teenaged kids are driving around in them thinking they are hot shyte.... I saw a 19 year old two days ago pull up at my drive-thru window in one of these... Beat up to shyte... Looked good then when brand new...pillar less roof line and all... Now...it looked like that Ghostbusters Cadillac...