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British Invasion part 2 was awesome! Ive had this song stuck in my head for the last couple of weeks. There was a softball tournament in my neighborhood that my daughter and I attended, Canadian Championships for A ball U17 girls and this song came blasting up on the speakers. I was surprised that this song would be playing at a softball tournament in 2022, but it did and it still stuck in my head.

Ive had chickenpox. My wife too. I dont think about shingles all that much. My wife, however, has it on her mind to inform our family doctor about shingles and a shingles vaccine. All the family has had 3 shots of the Covid vaccine. The wife and kids all have Pfizer but I have the 1st two as Pfizer and the 3rd Moderna. We are waiting for the updated booster to be available. As soon as its available, we all get to be jabbed. We dont do flu shots. None of us get sick during flu season.

Funny part is I NEVER MENTIONED RECALLS... FUNNIER part is A frame failure and engine failure, two HUGE lawsuits that Toyota HAD to settle affecting MILLIONS of cars, at the height of Toyota's God like stature and some of you, not mentioning names, do NOT think this is not part of the reliability equation... You do you...(dont really care what you believe) I, on the other hand, dont buy into these false claims that Toyotas are more reliable... I KNOW that Toyotas are just as shytty as what Toyota sheeple (and the two resident C&G guys) regard the other OEMs...

@surreal1272 contrary to what you may think about how I feel about Toyota, there are many, many cars and trucks that I very much like from Toyota and Lexus These are some of the Toyota cars and trucks I like and is proud to admit I like. yeah...from the 60s and 70s even the 80s and included in the Toyotas that I like...surprise surprise, a little 4 cylinder shytebox and a Solara of all things And a couple of Toyotas that I saw in Greece that we never got here. Now these next Toyotas arent exactly cars I like, but I was smitten with them for whatever reason. early 80s Crown and a very much mundane 1998-1999-2000-2001 or so Avensis A FWD BMW language copy cat. Never in my wildest dreams would I have ever thought Id actually like this kinda car. But here I am. Now...these are a LOT of Toyotas. Just because I dont buy into the bullshyte of Toyotas being more reliable than all others and I KNOW that their quality of car building is no better and on par with the rest of them other OEMs that we like to call shyte doesnt mean I dont like their cars... BMW is the car company that I have an irrational hate for. My hatred for Toyota stems for the brainwashing BS they do. I actually like a lot of their cars. Toyota has made some really cool vehicles for us enthusiasts. Why they stopped would be another reason for me to hate them...

I dont think its true. I know its true. Toyota reliability is a lie. A nicely planned marketing scheme. They even got you hooked, line and center by telling me about reliability surveys. The data actually shows that Toyota is not that special in the reliability department. Their marketing spins it. But data actually shows their engineering falters as much as other so called unreliable OEMs. Again... Toyota sold MILLIONS of sludge infected 4 and 6 cylinder engines across the Toyota and Lexus brands. 3.5 million to be exact ONLY from the USDM. Class action suit for phoques sake. https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/01/toyota_sludge_settlement.html How many engines did GM phoque up during this time and sold to the public? About as much? Toyota was a lot smaller though from GM then so that 3.5 million is a huuuuuuge number. You could say that GM was cheaply engineering their engine issues but Toyota was arrogantly denying theirs. But you just proved MY POINT as we NEVER hold Toyota accountable for anything. YOU yourself said Toyota's issues are overblown but keep on harping that somehow Cadillac has more issues. Dude... 3.5 million cars affected with shytty engines yet you dont seem concerned... 4 cylinders and 6. Toyota cars and Lexus at a time when ALL surveys and consumer report rag mags (paid by Toyota) to sell a lie that Toyota cars are reliable. I know you are not any kind of blind fanboy, and good on you that you've had great Toyota vehicle experiences, but no, Im not sold on Toyota's marketing campaigns. No gaslighting. Just stating truths. With actual links to back up my opinions. Not fake news links. Actual Toyota failures. Huge failures that SHOULD You on the other hand, are just spewing these slogans that somehow all these major engineering failures are nothing. Talk about using feelings over facts when discussing this topic. Your link would be what? Consumer's report? The funny part is that consumer's report didnt even report the engine sludges and all these years the Camry was America's most reliable car. LOL Ignoring that Camry's 4 AND 6 cylincer offerings were sludges... 3.5 MILLION cars. But yeah... Overblown right?... The ironic pun in you word choice... (It would be a 3.0 V6 from 1997 instead of your 1993 FYI) from another link. http://www.toyotaproblems.com/oil-sludge/ The oil inside Toyota's 1997-2005 3.0L engine is predisposed to sludge problems. Oil sludge is a thickening of engine oil that increases fricition and heat, eventually causing massive damage to the engine. In 2007, Toyota settled a class-action engine sludge lawsuit that covered an estimated 2 to 5 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles made between 1997 and 2002. The Engine Sludge Settlement∞ Toyota settled a class-action engine-sludge suit in 2007 that covered an estimated 2.5-million Toyota and Lexus vehicles made between 1997 and 2002. Toyota agreed to repair the "sludged-up" engines for up to eight years from the time of purchase.

yeah...overblown Sure, the Northstar V8 had issues. Catastrophic issues. Its just that in one case, we are still miffed with Cadillac and with the other, we are calling it overblown. Same time frame to boot. The lengths we go to ignore Toyota's shyttyyness. Toyota is JUST as shytty as the next OEM.

None taken. ? oops...wrong emogi ? All jokey and fun!!! but... This is not accurate. Frame failures and engine failures due to oil sludge tell a different story, an opposite story of reliability and especially quality. Its engineering failure is what it is and to simply ignore THAT reality is what you have said, trying to argue facts over feelings because of some moronic sheeple person ignoring the fact that his Camry's engine has seized up, Toyota blamed him for using the wrong oil when in fact he done his oil changes AT Toyota dealerships and then filling up a contrived survey favoring Toyota to begin with about Toyota reliability when that sheeple Toyota Camry owner SUBJECTIVELY, not OBJECTIVELY, filled out that his Camry is reliable ignoring the fact that his Camry is out of commission. Please spare me the bullshyte with reliability surveys... Reality tells me otherwise https://www.toyoland.com/sludge.html But even then, I remember 'twas only Chrysler getting shyte from the automotive media for their 2.7 V6 not a peep for Toyota and Mercedes. Remember, this was at the HEIGHT of German engineering prowess and Toyota god like status for reliability and quality. https://www.vehiclehistory.com/articles/toyota-tacoma-most-years-are-reliable-but-some-2005-2010-models-struggle-with-rusty-frames-faulty-leaf-springs That last point...the overall point, that if someone avoided the worst years, one would end up a happy owner... Talking about putting feelings above facts, huh? About those owners whose Tacomas have failed them? As sheeple as they can get, they forgave Toyota and said in surveys other than the frame falling apart on me, but yeah FCKN GREAT VEHICLE!!! I mean, I couldnt do truck things with it because the frame rotted and buckled, I couldnt drive it, because, you know, but it was reliable and it was quality built... Automotive media brushed it off. And remember, these Tacomas that have failed are RECENT... 10 and 15 years ago, right after the record recalls that Toyota has had for other problems including sticky electronic pedal failures, and the aforementioned engine oil sludges. I could dig up more problems because Toyota is THAT shytty... But we keep on harpering on Detroit. We keep on forgiving Toyota. My point still stands, the lengths we go to ignore Toyota's shyttyyness. My point still stands, Toyota is JUST as shytty as the next OEM.

well... Detroit built some of the best engineered and reliable cars in the world before WW1. Rolls Royce, Mercedes...Oldsmobile and Ford. Buick and Cadillac and Dodge and Alpha Romeo and Renault and Daimler... AFTER WW2 however, there was a switch. And strictly on a reliability standpoint... Detroit built the FINEST cars around. It all came crashing down in the mid 70s to the 80s in actual fact. Just a decade of horridness. But NOT ON ALL of their cars. Just the small ones. But Detroit stopped the shyttyness in the 1990s. Toyotas were a hot mess from the 1950s-1980s. Got their shyte together on some cars in the 1970s, better in the 1980s. Some of their cars though, IN the 1980s was Detroit style garbage. Lexus was great IN the 1980s and 1990s. But their reliability did falter. we are still hung up on Detroit but not a peep on Toyota and Lexus for oil sludge in their engines at the HEIGHT of Toyota reliability, frame failures on their supposed God like pick up trucks, millions upon millions of recalls due to shytty engineering NOT because of a small latch that doesnt work properly on the glove box recalls. Engineering flub recalls. Not a peep about that. That shyte is AS BAD as Detroit got. But it happened AFTER Detroit's blunders at the HEIGHT of THEIRS Detroit had and still has a LONGER HISTORY of building great reliable cars than Toyota does. the stretch of shytty Detroit cars is more or less the same as shytty Toyotas. The type of shyttyness is the same for both Detroit TODAY, is on PAR or BETTER THAN Toyota in MANY cases. we still whine about Detroit but defend Toyota until death. Makes no sense...

Funny... 1996 RAV4 alive in 2019? yeah...Last time a I saw a 1996 RAV4 in Montreal was like a 10-12 years ago... Or my anecdotes dont count for anything... You know what is funnier? This gen RAV 4 is also nowhere to be seen in Montreal... Its only been a decade. And both gens of RAV 4s were EVERYWHERE here. You know what is hysterical? Honda CRVs and Chevy Equinoxes of 2010ish years are still roaming around in the Montreal region. Does that count as anecdotal proof? Ill repeat what Ive said Its mindboggling to what lengths we try to defend Toyota when its clear that Toyota is NOT this super reliable thing. Toyota is JUST as shytty as the next OEM. Sometimes, and it has been often that their engineering failures have been some of the worst in automobile history. THERE IS NO DEFENDING THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WANT TO PUNISH DETROIT FOR ENGINEERING FAILURES. TOYOTA FAILURES HAVE BEEN DETROIT BAD. SOMETIMES WORSE. THERE IS NO DEFENDING THAT

cool and all... but... Two things with that. Anecdotal evidence goes both ways. I got 4 very close acquaintances that owned Toyotas that had failures with them. 2 of those people are a Toyota sheeple that to this day defend their unreliable Toyotas. 1 is indifferent and the other swears to never buy another Toyota product ever again. An early 2000s Toyota Corolla owner whose dashboard cracked 3 years in, changed it for a mid 2000s Camry who had all kinds of electrical problems that prevented the car from starting several times but will never buy American because his dad bought a Chevy Citation that one time back in the summer of '82. Neighbour has a Venza, with constant transmission problems and is just now trading it in for another Toyota. A Hino owner whose endless problems including transmission problems prompted him to swear off Toyotas forever. A mid 2000s Toyota Sienna owner and yet again, another transmission problem. It exploded on him but is the type to not give a shyte. Bought a Honda minivan and the same thing happened to that Honda... transmission problems. Bought a Dodge minivan and is just as much as a POS as the other two. But like I said, he doesnt care about whining. He has kept the Dodge longer than either Japanese van, for whatever reason. But do my anecdotes count? Since anecdotes is what we are going with, have you owned a legit Fiat? Forget about my anecdote as it hasnt been my personal experience with Toyota, but since you wanna go with personal experiences, has a Fiat been in your ownership or is it just hearsay that Fiats suck? Listen, I know damn well that Fiats suck. Point being is that Toyotas are no more reliable than anybody else. Same issues, if not worse. Failing phoquing frames during the height of the supposed Toyota reliability thing (the late 1990s) is a huge phoquing thing. As big if not bigger than anything Detroit has done... Not a phoquing peep though how Toyota sucks, but that 80s Chev Citation thing...oh phoquing boy! Cadillac? How 'bout sticky Lexus pedals and engine sludges... Toyotas were rust buckets well into the 1990s. But lets defend Toyota until the ends of the earth. Boggles my mind with how much we allow Toyota to phoque up...

Not fake. Its a resonator. And its amplified. The Corvette Z06 sound is tuned the same way. Ferrari V8s and V12s as well. Not sure how Porsche does it with the Taycan. I think Porsche electronically tunes it.

So...why bother with the reliability angle? It always leads to nowhere. Many of us see and hear what we wanna see and hear and dismiss anything contrary to what we perceive to be the truth. And I know it goes both ways... Rabid fans are just that, rabid fans. So...why bother with the reliability angle?

Naw! I just need folk to be consistent with their beefs. Toyota has a perception of being reliable. False hopes. Camry and Corolla. And even those have had shytty years along the way with no accountability from the fans. Th Hilux, from the late 1990s and early 2000s had frames failing... Not a phoquing peep of dissent. @surreal1272 you do have a level head. Far more than 99% of all posters I have encountered along the way. But common buddy... Toyota aint all that... Same crap from lazy 80s and 90s GM, Toyota has been. And in some cases. WORSE!!!

I wanna know why are we obsessing so much on reliability? Its clear that foreign car owners of the Toyota and Mercedes kind dont hold the same standards of reliability when they still shun vehicles from Detroit because had they kept the same outrage they do against Detroit, they would have NEVER bought a German or Japanese car in the 1st place since German and Japanese cars were atrocious wwaaaaaayyyyyy before Detroit was. And, even for a very very, very very VERY brief time between the mid-80s to the mid 90s for the Japanese cars, that Japan DID produce reliable cars, Japanese cars just went down the loo again. And that would be for a select few Japanese models that were reliable. Most were shyttier than anything that Detroit produced. For every Camry that was reliable, there was a Cressida and a Celica that was shyttier than anything coming out of Detroit at that time that was the 1980s. Sure a 1980s Corolla and a Hilux were indestructible so to speak. All Toyotas even as late as the 1980s, were rust buckets... Corrosion problems far worse than anything coming out of Detroit. As far as German cars go... Nothing German can be called reliable at ANYTIME after WW2. With the exception of MODERN Porsche 911s and a W123 Mercedes. the hypocrisy is outstanding!!! And Im fed up of it! Its been since the 1990s that Im fed up with this shytty narrative!!!

It will be faster than the Hellcats. By a decent amount. As much, but not as fast probably, as the Lucid Airs, and the Plaid. Why? 1. that transmission... Its supposed to look like a Dodge, sound like a Dodge and DRIVE like a Dodge. (Its supposed to look like a muscle car, sound like a muscle car and DRIVE like a muscle car) It will have shift points, like a Porsche Taycan (2 speed transmission), but unlike a Porsche Taycan, it will have 3-4-5-6 shift points to make you feel that punch. (Remember, Lucid Airs and Teslas have very fast LINEAR acceleration...1 gear only that makes it just go...) THAT may cost valuable tenths of seconds for 0-x times and 1/4 mile times. 2. It may not need to beat these other EVs (Air, Taycan, Plaid) in acceleration outright if only a tenth or 2 seconds off BECAUSE it will undoubtedly FEEL and drive like a Dodge and a muscle car. 3. Also, it will have an electronic software 'nitrous' button on the steering wheel called PowerShot that will produce an extra burst of horsepower to overcome any shift delay and punch its way through as to stay as close to if not downright overcome a Taycan, Plaid and Air. It will also have sport, drag, track and more importantly, donut modes to look like a Dodge, sound like a Dodge and DRIVE like a Dodge. (look like a muscle car, sound like a muscle car and DRIVE like a muscle car) Drag mode will certainly be interesting for acceleration times. 4. The Taycan, Plaid and Air will most certainly be 50% more pricier to buy anyway... Tim Kuniskis did say that all EVs are fast, even the boring ones whilst showing a Prius and Bolt like renderings when explaining what kind of EV Dodge is doing. Dodge is doing EVs THEIR way. What is basically what they are defining what an EV muscle car should be. Detroit did fast ICE cars in the 1960s the only way they knew how. And Dodge is was front and center in that time. Detroit and Dodge didnt care what Europe was doing. Like then, it seems Dodge doesnt care what Silicone Valley is doing. And I for one, if Dodge continues with this road and E-Muscle the way they just showed us, Im on board!!! Hope Ford and Chevy jump on board with Dodge's vision of E-Muscle and along with sustainable business and fans and this EV thing will be a blast!!! A muscle car renaissance!!!

Me too. That blue is siiiiiick! The whole exterior package, regardless if it looks like a 1990s product, is super dope. (how's that for a 1990s expression complimenting the Air's looks?

I made a thread on this. My opinion on it!