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  1. Yeah...Bummer. This will influence...SUV styling. I do like it as is though. And I do like the updated Buick logo.
  2. Which I have stated MANY times. Point is... When ALL things are equal, with EQUAL CUVs and equivalent sedans, the CUV will have a HIGHER chance of a roll over. Why? Physics. CUVs are taller. I said it plenty times. No matter how you wanna dissect it. Its PHYSICS... A higher center of gravity vehicle will have a higher risk of a roll over than a lower gravity one. Its physics. And by the GIFS I posted, by the looks of it, CUVs, it doesnt take much to roll them over no matter what electronic gizmos have been implemented to mitigate roll overs. Why? Physics takes over...time and time again. Physics will ALWAYS take over. Argue until the cows come home. Physics will always win an argument like this. I do not have time to continue with this charade. Good morning folk. See ya'll in the late afternoon. This is false narrative. The vehicle is on its roof. Passengers move violently inside. Airbags and stuff. Sure. Passengers still move violently inside the compartment. Not only are the forces back and forth and side to side. Now the forces are up and down and the roof collapsing rather than just the doors and rear and front. Again...physics...
  3. Semantics... I aint talking about head on collisions with a 5000 pound Escalade ESV with a 1970s Honda CVCC here. If you want waste your day arguing about shyte like that, have at it. Find some other loaf to do that with you tho. I aint got time for dat. My stance has NEVER wavered from the get go from what I want to say. I said it and will say it again. CUVs and SUVs have a high center of gravity. They have a higher chance of a roll over making them NOT safer than their equivalent sedan counterparts. MANY technological advancements have been made to mitigate this. But, whatever electronic techno wizardry have been installed to CUVs have also been installed in sedans too making THAT technological advnacement for CUVs a moot point. Physics comes into play regardless at some point. Have a nice morning CCAP.
  4. @ccap41 Its physics, buddy. Good 'ole physics. I even posted pictures for you to look at... Its OK. You do you. I dont really care.
  5. Wrong on both accounts, bud... My statement, and Surreals, has just been confirmed to be...true! Maybe you should be going back to high school...
  6. Well, confirmation bias maybe at play here. Plenty of false narrative publications of why CUVs and SUVs are safer than sedans are abundant. And the sweeping the white elephant under the rug thing as well. Many have adopted CUVs, so to ignore the obvious and downplay the obvious as to feel better about one's purchase is what is mainly happening here...
  7. No. Wheelbase is a factor too. Although I should have mentioned track as well... Breaking hard, the vehicle yaws forward. Combine that with a turn, and a shorter wheelbase and the handling is destabilized. Combine that with a higher center of gravity and a roll over may ensue. Both play a part. . A car has 2 critical movements in the 3rd dimension that influence handling characteristics. 1. side to side movement. Track and height affect this. 2. Front and back movement. Wheelbase and weight distribution affect this motion. https://unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/doc/2010/wp29grrf/AMEVSC-03-03e.pdf
  8. Martin Brodeur
  9. https://mathspig.wordpress.com/tag/centre-of-gravity/ So the Lamobgini Diablo is very hard to roll (build a higher ramp) and it therefore beats the SUV for stability every time. Definition of Center of Gravity...
  10. Well...obviously...nothing rolls over by itself. Other than maybe a...ball? Spirited driving with stability control will allow higher speeds of spirited driving with CUVs. Yes...its true. But physics comes into play one way or other. *SIGH* CUVs have a higher center of gravity because they are a TALLER vehicle. The wheelbase is not longer than an equivalent sedan so the tipping point of that equivalent CUV is less forgiving... Its physics.... No matter how you guys wanna dissect it, its physics....
  11. Just a few years ago is the key phrase. And I also mentioned electronic technological wizardry. The thing is, sedans ALSO benefit from this stability control wizardry. The thing is, yes, the speed limits are higher with stability control, and yes, there are some stability controls that work the brakes, suspension travels and corrective steering to avoid and/or mitigate roll overs. Physics however, take over. All the GIFs I CAREFULLY chose and the equivalent sedan accident would NOT make the sedan flip over. Such as this one A sedan getting T boned, just makes the sedan fly into the other car, or possibly the curb further down. But the sedan will not flip like that. A FASTER T Bone and the sedan MAY flip. But this T Bone was not really at blazing speeds either... I dunno what shytty shenanigans this idiot was doing with his Mercedes CUV prior to the roll over...but his sporty CUV is also a Mercedes...and it rolled over. But a sedan would REALLY have to go blazingly fast to flip over at that round-about taking a sharp turn...but blangingly fast also means the sedan will simply NOT turn, not roll over but just go THROUGH the round-about... The CUV will probably...roll over MULTIPLE times. This sporty CUV, from Mercedes, I will mention Mercedes MULTIPLE times, because its a high end CUV FROM Mercedes with presumably high end stability controls to AVOID roll overs at seemingly low speeds such as in THIS case...but nope...it rolled over.
  12. @Drew Dowdell answered this the way I wanted to.
  13. Blue Angels
  14. A Camaro nose is technically a Chevy nose... Yes, it would be a real Chevy nose a Camaro nose would be. The Chevy SS nose would technically NOT be a real Chevy nose. It would be a Holden nose. And...lets be honest, although pretty, the Holden nose, or Chevy SS, lets call it what it really is. Un-inspiring. The Camaro nose is aggressive. A new generation Impala SS type car kinda needs that aggressive identity. Maybe not an exact Camaro nose like that fake render. But definitely NOT a boring, unexciting, drab FWD appliance look-a-like either... The Holden nose does a FANTASTIC job in mimicking FWD Chevrolet appliance vehicles... The Chevy SS/Holden Commodores are pretty though. But then again, pretty does NOT sell muscle. That would be strike two... Butch sells muscle. The Camaro's front end is plenty butch. And its a nice butch face. Its just that the Camaro lacks in other areas...
  15. You realize that your gif is just Hollywood magic accident. Its not a real roll over. It is staged to go boom and let the rear tire go up in the air and do a roll over like a master and his dog playing tricks like: Hey Rex, play dead. Hey Rex, roll over... Yes, cars DO roll over. My problem I have with you is that YOU are arguing against physics. You simply canNOT argue with physics. Im glad that you have rethought your driving because you do have SUVs. The thing is with YOUR SUVs: 1. The Escalade is wide and has a long wheelbase. The full-sized SUVs are less prone to roll overs. They aint low to the ground cars, so they could roll over more easily than a car, but these fullsizers are pretty solid if the roads are pretty smooth. A slight imperfection though and they will roll over. A car has a higher tolerance... 2. Your Trailblazer is a performance SUV. It is hunkered down with stiffer suspension. Like the Escalade, though, it will have a more forgiving roll over risk. But dont kid yourself, the GMT 360 is not a platform where GM took roll overs seriously. The GMT 360 is eons better than the S10 Blazer of the previous gen, but that is not saying much as thee S10 Blazers was horrid. Horrid horrid horrid for roll overs. Please, do NOT gloss over the real danger of CUV and SUVs rolling over. It IS a REAL hazard. Just because YOU own 2 SUVs and YOU want to feel good about your love for SUVs, do NOT false inform. To boot, its just PHYSICS, man. And yes, thank you for wishing me a nice week-end. And yes it was. Baseball and softball galore these past 2 days. A dash of visiting family and friends for a BBQ. Id say it was a GREAT week-end. I hope your week-end was just as nice as mine was. Even more!!!
  16. Id buy something like that. Its just a render from a fan though. Not a legit concept.
  17. The Maxima was a terrific sleeper of a family hauler in the 1980s and 1990s. It even became a sexy sedan in the 1990s. Too bad they mucked it up. I mean, I like the looks of the Maxima of today. It doesnt follow the usual lines of eveybody else's sedans. But it lost so much of its 1980s and 1990s identity. I used to love this car back in the day. Many people didnt know how fast this car was. My friends were all geeking over the German crap, I was geeking out over this and the Impala SS. Albeit, I was not so vocal about geeking out on the Japanese sports sedan... I, however, was SUPER loud on my hatred of BMWs back then!!! The Impala SS in black and the Maxima SE in white. Throw in a Pontiac Bonneville, Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme and Aurora and we round out my favorite more or less mainstream sedans of the day.
  18. My order of Nissan Z favorites. The others dont quite make my list. Its not that I dont like them, its more like my feelings for them are neutral. They dont move the feelz meter for me one way or other.
  19. Back when I was California dreamin', I was ashamed of Montreal and Quebec. The language issues, the Quebec trying to separate from Canada. the endless businesses closing up shop and moving away from Montreal and because I lived IN the city at this time I literally saw the vibrant city that is Montreal turn into a cold cold not quite ghost town, but close. Boarded up small businesses where I lived. Empty office buildings everywhere in the downtown core. This was in the mid 1980s. Even as a child in the 1970s, I could see Montreal was a special rockin' place. And all that went away in the 1980s. There was a lot of cool and positive imagery of California in that time. Karate Kid moving from New Jersey to California. Clark Griswold going to Wallyworld for a family vacation. (Yeah, you dont really see California all that much in that movie, its the constant mentioning of Wallyworld that you know Wallyworld and consequently California, must be a nice place to visit) etc. I had visited Greece at least 5 times by 1987 so I equated Greek summer weather and the beaches with California. And obviously California beaches were better because going to Surf City there is a Girl/Boy ratio of 2:1. All the muscle cars drag racing, etc... Montreal was my home town, but it was an embarrassment. Canada seemed to hate us. Americans, those that knew where we were and who we were always thought that we were weird for speaking French... Not a good image. I always loved NYC, but NYC always had this all business, no time for anyone and anything vibe to it. Too fast of a life. Sure, if you could make it there, you could make it anywere, but NYC would chew you up and spit you out. California was chill. Greece was chill. California WAS the place to live. You could make money, tons of it, but you could actually enjoy it too. But something happened. I did a 180 degree on Montreal and embraced the language issues, embraced that Quebec IS French. PHOQUE the English and the rest of Canada. I saw that even if Montreal's business side crumbled and there was practically nothing left of it, Montrealers and Quebecois KNEW how to have fun. I found that my Greek DNA for the lust for life and living and enjoying was very very much alive with Quebec culture and the French people. And as Montreal and Quebec slowly picked up the broken pieces and re-invented our economics, I in turn was proud of Montreal, the Province of Quebec, AND the East Coast. I started preferring NYC and Boston to LA, SF, San Diego, etc (Mind you, I have been to NYC and Boston many times and Im sure THAT helped for me to connect to NYC and Boston). If I wanted the beach life, The Caribbean, Jamaica, Florida are ON the East Coast. Greece is not THAT much farther away than what California is anyway. I sooooo want to visit and swim in the Pacific Ocean though. But its so clear to me now that the Mediterranean is where my soul belongs.
  20. I wanna know when in the hell did people get bamboozled in thinking that CUVs are safer? Light tap from the back sends this CUV rolling over Sedan loses controll, hits barriers, still upright. Hits crossover pickup truck from Honda, sedan still upright, crossover pick up truck...rolls over... Slow speed, hits a car....rolls over
  21. CUVs and SUVs sell at a higher MSRP than their sedan counterparts because THAT is what the market dictates and hence why the higher profit margins. But when sedans all go away, and there is nothing left BUT CUVs and SUVs, and there is a market adjustment in pricing for AFFORDABLE CUVs and SUVs, there WILL be CHEAPER priced CUV offerings. These cheaper CUV offerings will NOW take the place of the Corolla scenario... And if sedans DO make a comeback, they will probably command a higher price tag than their CUV counterpart reversing the scenario we have now... *SIGH* There is nothing new about all this. Its automotive business 101. What I dont understand is (aside from the downsizing of sedans) is how we got a whole phoquing continent to stop buying cars in favor of a lesser, unsafer, shyttier riding, less capable in hauling shyte CUVs... Less capable in hauling... YES!!! Less capable in hauling. Aside from the hatchback style opening, the back end does NOT fit MORE cargo. It fits maybe TALLER stuff, but NOT more stuff. Equinox back end Seats up...NOT down. What good does it make it for the seats to be down? Going on a trip with the family, where will the phoquing kids sit if the seats are down? Previous gen Malibu This gen Malibu A sedan based station wagon was even BETTER in hauling crap in the back... And this is true for ALL sedans versus their EQUIVALENT CUV counterparts. I owned a 2007 Ford Edge and a 2005 Impala SS. I moved from one house that I owned and sold to a new and current house I own now with these two cars. I fit more boxes in the Impala, seats down, than with the Edge, with the seats down. I put the TALLER boxes in the Edge, duh, but I fit more boxes in the Impala. And the Edge was a wider CUV than most in its class. The Edge was probably shorter than the Impala. Shorter wheelbase too. But it was a taller vehicle. It might have even been wider too. The rear cargo was humongous. Cavernous. But the Impala actually had a bigger...trunk. And THAT phenom is actually true across the board with the sedans versus their CUV counterparts. But...sedans have become too sporty and that the profile is more coupe like killing the benefits of hauling stuff with a sedan. But that is an attempt to spruce up the sedan sales. THAT didnt work, duh, as sedans are supposed to haul families, sealing the sedans fate faster to die. But I wanna know: When in the hell did people get soooooo stupid and bamboozled by this crap narrative that CUVs haul more stuff? Taller stuff, yes. NOT more stuff...
  22. Im gonna continue to bash California. Why is it that I equate most "beautiful" residents of California as narcissistic, selfish, shytty people? Why is it that I think that most of these California peeps are like Amber Turd? Im gonna stop the bashing and Im gonna post songs that made me dream about California in a good way.
  23. I get the feeling that Sheryl Crow's "All I wanna do is have some fun" song is a song denouncing California. Its kinda saying that the people she is interacting with are fake. She truly is the only one wanting to have real fun. I still dont like the song. Even though I learnt that what she may be saying is what I have learnt about California over the years and have fallen out of love with California myself and THAT is what she is trying to convey to us. That California is FAKE. (Never been there, mind you) I just dont like the song. I dont like ANY of Sheryl Crow's songs. I dont know why. I just dont like her songs. Something about her voice kills me. Id rather listen to Katy Perry and her rip off of the Beach Boys song of California Girls than listen to Sheryl Crow. Phoqued up.... I know!!!
  24. meh... I never did like that "All I wanna do is have some fun on the Santa Monica Boulevard" song. "This is L.A.!!!" To which I say: BIIIIIG phoquing deal!!! I once dreamt about California and what it be like to live there. But slowly slowly, the mystical attraction, daze and hypnotic trance Los Angeles and Hollywood and Beverley Hills and Malibu Beach and San Francisco and all things California has vanished for me. Id like to visit, but I no longer have this yearn as Seinfeld's Kramer character put it, to live in California. From a song stand point, Id rather a late '70s and mid '80s Pink Cadillac vibe. The song projects more "fun" than what Mizz Crow suggests with her California song. Spending all our money on a Saturday night and having a party in the backseat of a Cadillac. Talking about cars, the Cadillac is bigger than a Honda and a Subaru too. The later, '80s pop version The earlier, bluesy original version I also prefer Mr. Petty's California mentioning songs more than Mizz Crow's Free Fallin' is more chill, I find
  25. I wanna know why, all of a sudden, the Nissan Z is so praised for its looks and profile when it really is the same car as when it came out 15 years ago. The Z I posted on top there, has the SAME profile. Its just a refreshed front and rear, the new one is... OK, the rear hunches are massaged as well to have less child bearing hips. Its less of a Coke bottle design Am I the only one to prefer the refreshed 370Z version more than the re-refreshed 2022? Original 350Z I do prefer the newest version over the OG, though.
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