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Yeah... I definetely see and can agree with your point of view. I am not against a new design language for either a Chrysler or Dodge. What I AM looking for though, is a mid to full sized sedan, from either Ford, GM or Mopar, with muscle car cues, not necessarily retro styled either, but definetely muscle car DNA styling. With a design language that speaks Ford or Chevy or Mopar. So yeah... I am on board with your opinion!!!

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Thanx David for the info!!! And yes @SMK. The Charger will get the Hurricane I-6 in both guises. SO and HO. High output... The title mentions Challenger, but the article ONLY talks about the next Charger. But it does mention the EV version. So...the article is a little murky in the details, which doesnt include all that much information to begin with. But...its a good piece to get us excited. Especially what a twin turbo high output inline 6 will do to a possible new platform Charger/Challenger. And the naming possibilites of the SRT model. But as @Drew Dowdell stated: The old platform does need to go. But I do want the new platform to be the size, length and width, as the old platform. But...believe it or not, Im more excited with the EV version. Since I have made peace with the world around us for internal combustion engines going away, and more precisely, V8s going away, I cant wait to get my hands on the EV Charger/Challenger. I am not to sad for V8s going away either if I were to be honest with you. I havent owned a V8 car since the mid to late 1990s. And it was a tired old V8 at that. And it was the ONLY V8 I have EVER owned. Quebec gasoline prices and winters ALWAYS put a dent in V8 ownership. And...a lifetime of driving V6s and (ome or two) 4 cylinder cars, an electric powertrain, even in basic form is a step up. OK...on an equal plane for a BASIC EV powertrain a la Bolt versus a 6 cylinder. A basic EV powertrain for a Charger will be sufficient for me. Dual Motor for the AWD part. Because winter is still a thing in Quebec. Therefore, an EV Charger like the concept will probably BE my next sedan purchase. Unless General Motors does something interesting and muscle-y carish with a Chevy branded EV sedan of its own...

Ive had this thought. It has been bugging me for 2 days. I visited the Parthenon at the Acropolis in Athens many many times. In the 70s, in the 80s, in the 90s, in the 00's and finally in '10s. I have visited the Ancient Olympic site in Olympia once. In 2001. Ive been to Akrotiri in Santorini twice. Ive been to Crete but because of bad timing circumstance, I didnt visit Knossos. (This would be something that has also bugged me, but its not the subjest of why Im writing this) Ive seen lots of old stuff. Ill get back to this later. Ive swam in the Aegean and Ive swam in the Ionian. Ive swam directly in the Mediterranean. Some of those beaches were...lets just say...some men and some women were in their most natural of states. My mom when I was just a kid, my aunts or uncles and cousins and my wife and my kids, myself and other tourists from all over the phoquing world spanning 5 phoquing decades when we were observing history... When I was in school, in Greek school or in English/French school and I with my other classmates, my kids and their classmates, when learning abount Ancient Greek art and history and Roman... Not once, young or old, did I, we, ANYBODY, did we EVER think that we were indulging in porn. What is going ON in some people's heads today in America? We cant blame this kind of thing on the Puritans and their influence... It cant be political. Education about human history or even the looking at a naked human body from a phoquing statue that is not only art, but its of historical value. It aint even sexual in ANY way... I just dont buy that kind of stupidity on an 'ism' whether its a religious 'ism' or a political one. Something is going on and America has to figure it out because it dont look good for America's future. I must say... IM INSULTED by what happened in Florida with a couple of those parents!!! DISGUSTED!!! It not ONLY insults ME as a Greek...because my ancient peoples helped further human history along in advancing the arts, but also taught us to look at our human bodies and adore what the human body is and can be... But it also insults me as a HUMAN. On an intellectual level. A human body. THE naked human body is as natural as nature can be. There is simply NO phoquing excuse as to why somebody wants to limit exposure no matter what age, in learning about our naked bodies. There is NOTHING sexual about looking at a naked body. Forget about sex being natural as well... Its how we become...we. We need to indulge in sexual behaviour to continue on as a species... There are thousands of inappropriate sexual innuendos in American culture. The statue of David is where those morons drew the line? America better figure it out soon. It dont look too good...

Ive noticed that in the Montreal region...the pony car of choice IS the Mustang. Choice #2 for the Montrealer would be the Camaro. Considering my pony car of choice IS the Challenger, Montreal kinda sucks for that reason. Yup! Im basing my pride and love for my city over what pony cars its citizens choose. At least the shytty Habs got eliminated from the play off race yesterday. That is enough reason for me to keep on living here. (And Ill be the first to celebrate if and when they win their 25th) WINNER!!! Losers

Took the family to a cabane a sucre Sunday. Had this song in my head since then

This is pretty (The LED headlights) Very "LUCID" indeed. This is pretty ugly The swathes of black plastic. Its as if its got a 6.2 liter iron blocked, aluminium head supercharged V8 under the hood requiring all that open hole black plastic for gobs of airflow. But it doesnt have what the Hellcat has. So why is all that necessary? Oh...I get it.. To make it LOOK like it has a 2.4 liter supercharger... I see I see. Its the "N" Line afterall... Yeah...its a good lookin' car alright. But with all those fires and recalls Hyundai has got... And...my wife's sister's boyfriend back in the day in 2004 was stranded because his Hyuandai Santa Fe was a piece of shyte so its a BIG NO THANX for me.

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The Hellcats and Demons are practically collector cars now. The Last Call Editions are not built yet, and yet we could sense, well...me at least...that these cars are collector cars NOW. There are a few cars when produced, we kinda know that they will eventually become legendary and collectable. And these very wild in name and in horsepower LX cars are one of the rare cases that we KNOW. I was but a teenager, 14 years old in 1987 and I KNEW the Buick GNX was a future classic. We all knew. When Porsche introduced the Carrera GT to the world, we all knew that the car is going to be a classic as SOON as it rolls off the assembly line. And the LX cars with the outrageous names and power numbers are of that same breed. There is no denying it. You saw it coming as SOON as Dodge released the 1st Hellcat in 2015... Dodge sold quite a few of these Hellcats. In Challenger form. And in other forms too. And it dont matter. Sometimes a collector car classic being valuable has NOTHING to do with rarity. But in ANY case of being a valuable collector car, there must be something about the car that people think of it in the future for those people to lust after it IN the future. And the outrageous versions of these LX cars have that something special. Right now and IN the future. Nostalgia....with the LX cars... Its nostalgia, with the fact that these are the LAST OUTPHOQUINGRAGEOUS internal combustion engined cars ever to be produced. And THAT is one powerful statement to own for the future of collectability for these cars...

Thanx for sugeesting it. I didnt know a movie (documentary) of this tragedy existed. And yes I am very interested to get informed more of what may ior may not have have happened. Fortunetaly, I have stayed waaaaay clear of the lunacy. There are only a couple of scenarios that I think happened in my mind. Ill share. 1. Accident. Pilot error or catatrophic failure and the airplane just fell into the water. I am aware of some of the details of the mysterious ways it lost contact. 2. Missile strike. From whom? Well...I am not the one to indulge in conspiracy theories, but a missile strike is a very possible reality espiecially with all the murky details but its the whom part that is more murkier than anything else. The way world politics have been since the beginning of the 2000s, many a rogue politicians and governments and factions have appeared and it could be any a myriad of those kinds of loons... 3. Not knowing anything more about the details than just the basics, I also feel like it could be pilot suicide that sent hundreds to their deaths. It has happened before and the mysterious ways of loss of contact is consistant enough with a pilot suicide. But these are just MY conspiracy theories.

Only young, pretty people should be having sex.

Yeah. I hear ya on that. Im not into these Last Call editions either. With the sole exemption of the Black Ghost. I feel as though the Black Ghost should have been the SOLE ‘Last Call’ edition and as the legend goes: an unknown street car racer would show up from time to time at a street race, blow the doors off everyone and then disappear into the night. The legend is a fitting last call edition to send off these cars. But, Dodge somehow needs to milk this. To be fair to Dodge, there are many fans of these cars so they should milk it. Im not of this fanhood that needs ‘Last Call’ validation models to see them go off into the sunset. Like you, I view them as marketing bullshyte. Although the Swinger edition could have been a version Id like had I been a Boomer of a certain age in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s doin’ certain lifestyle activities to evoke that name. But imagine sll these Boomers now, all wrinkley like raisins still engaging in that swinger lifestyle. YUCK!!!

No they are not. When...all these things I mentioned will boil over and it turns out to be negative for Tesla...their stock value will lower considerably. It already has gone down considerably. Dont also forget that Tesla's value is more based on speculation on what shyte comes out of Musk's mouth. His over-promises has skyrocketed Tesla's value. But his under-delivery has also made Tesla's value drop like no other in history too. Tesla value dropped soooo much in January. And investor's have made it clear that they dont accept Musk bullshyte no longer. It remains to be seen what Tesla stock value will be by Dec. 2023... Jan 2023 https://www.npr.org/2023/01/06/1146941980/tesla-shares-elon-musk-twitter-electric-cars Dec. 2022 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-07/tesla-tsla-stock-slump-investors-frustrated-by-elon-musk-twitter-distraction#xj4y7vzkg Like I said...Tesla's luck and charm WILL run out. Just a matter of time if Musk doesnt fix himself and his company that he chiefs over. Means nothing. Like I said...in the car making business...it takes CONTINUAL amounts of billions. And it takes investors and loans to finance NEW models. It takes business plans to secure loans and investments from investors. And it takes prrof that you have cars in demand. Tesla cars are SLIDING in demand. Tesla had to resort to OLD DETROIT ways of doing business. And that is to slash prices. In China...all that did was make its competitors to do the same. Dude...LEGACY automakers have been down that road many many MANY times in THEIR 100 plus year history. Nothing new to GM, VAG or Ford. Toyota has never had to do something THAT drastic, but Toyota knows how to deal with that kind of thing. https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/25/23571618/tesla-q4-2022-earnings-revenue-profit-prices-demand GM has had 100 plus years of business. Banks and investors KNOW when to trust GM and when NOT to. Investors are finding out that Musk is a blowhard used car salesman... See how THAT turns out for Musk when Musk will need billions upon billions to get a 2nd gen Model S and Model 3 and Model Y... In 5 years...GM will have 30 NEW EV models to sell... Tesla will STILL be peddling ANCIENT Model S and Model 3 and Model Y. Ford sells 1 million F150s ALONE. Not. A. Chance. VAG is on the verge of letting loose their OWN 30 NEW EV models to compete with...GM. LOL. Toyota is behind... But BECAUSE Musk is such a bullshytting used car salesman, Toyota EV will have surpassed Tesla's in about 5 years... Everyone thinks that Toyota lags in EV tech. They dont. They have the hybrid thing all figured out by far from everyone else. They WILL figure out to do EV specific platforms. They know about batteries and EV motors. Not hard to catch up. Toyota rabid fanboys are more plentiful than Tesla's, I worry not for Toyota. Tesla is NOT in a very good position right now. Hyundai, GM, VAG, Toyota, the Chinese EV brands, Stellantis, even FoMoCo after announcing they will lose 3 billion dollars this year in producing EVs look healthier in terms of stability than Tesla is...

You do know that Tesla is pushing their luck, right? NHTSA is investigating Tesla for their autopilot baffoonery and fraud and if they DO find Tesla's autopilot AS fraud, then Tesla will more than likely be charged and found guilty of criminal negligence. And THAT is something no OTHER producer of cars has EVER faced. And THAT is saying a lot from all the shyte this industry has shat upon people 100 plus years ago... Some investors are suing Musk for involving Tesla with his Twitter purchase. THAT whole mess doesnt look good for Musk and consequently Tesla. And...between that Twitter thing and Musk's over-promising and under-delivering on many Tesla things, investors have startedto lose faith in Tesla slowly slowly. The longer Musk sits as CHIEF executive officer at Tesla, the more investors lose confidence in Tesla day by day ESPECIALLY when he opens up his shytty mouth.... Profits and billions of are one thing...but in the CAR making business many many MANY billiions are needed CONTINUOUSLY and if Tesla doesnt have the trust from investors or banks sometime in the near future...and its a very very real possibility...then they cant finance NEW models. And as you know...new models and the next star car is what keeps a car company alive... GM, Toyota and VAG have NO problems with that. And... All of those 3 companies at one time had lost trust from bankers and investors...and GM had to restructure through a bankruptcy...unfortunately for Tesla, Tesla is not as big as GM and therefore restructuring wont be a thing for them... Meaning...bye bye Tesla. And Tesla wont BE the first car company to go under to never return.

The video of Airforce One in Ottawa, welcome to our country Mr. President...it took you long enough... Anyway, looking at the vdio of the Boeing airplane JUST by itself...AND...looking at the airplane AS Airforce One...BOTH are MAJESTIC the way the video is shown to us. I LOVE IT!!! 1. As THE Boeing 747 2. As Airforce One