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Lucid and Tesla have done the same and well... they don't look like the crop of electric Mercedes coming out.

Thanks. I was jsut curious as it seemed like any EV you dogged hard for its looks (and of course price - which I completely agree with). I dig the Rivians. They're quirky but they don't feel like they're quirky just to be quirky, like most EVs. The Taycan has grown on me. It originally just seemed awkward but I really like it now.

$81K is way more than I can afford but it really isn't THAT insane, considering vehicle prices these days.

The service life the government put into place. There is no way these are actually worn out and NEED replacing and if you think they are, then why did you buy an older Avalanche if you think its reaching the end of its life?

I get what you're saying but this contract is specifically only for "Large Support Utility Commercial Vehicles". Pretty much everything you just mentioned is irrelevant with these new vehicles as they're large commercial vehicles. Knowing how poorly the federal government spends money, I can almost guarantee these are not a NEED and almost 100% a WANT. Nothing more than the government saying one thing and doing another (any administration). https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2021/01/28/biden-federal-fleet-electric/

What EV doesn't look bad to you? What one would you allow in your driveway? (Not trying to be a dick, genuinely curious because you seen to greatly dislike most everything new and/or EV)

I think it's a lot better looking than most EVs from any of the legacy automakers.

Yeah, I'd need it to be easily removable as well...of course for aesthetics.

Do you genuinely believe the United States government is in NEED of these new vehicles, the government that is known to piss money away like no other?

They don't exactly look good but they're really useful, a rear trunk or a small rack you can strap things to.

Good think you can't get hit or anything bad can't happen under 30mph! Your BMW is, hands down, the prettiest and coolest bike of the bunch.

I hope you had pants and a jacket in that backpack.

Yeah, the federal government's fleet was in "immediate need of updating". I believe that as much as any politician.

I love the green but that's my favorite color and share of blue so i would be hard to pass up. Ideally, I'd prefer the Max Pack as well, but if I'm being realistic, 300 miles of range is more than enough and $10,000 in my pocket is preferred. I'd also likely add some of the other things you did in the Adventure Gear area as well. I'm excited to see these in customers' hands and see one in the wild. The plant is only a couple hours north of me. @David, do you know what their maintenance/repair situation is like, as they don't have dealerships? If something breaks, what happens and where would I get repairs done?

I want one just like this so bad.

The Navigator is nowhere near half the price of a GLS580 with that rear seat option elected.

After trying to build a GLS on their website, you are correct. They do offer massaging 2nd row seats, at the cheapest possible option of 104k. That doesn't even give the driver a heated steering wheel, you have to add that separately.

There are quite a lot of differences and I found this online as it's more thorough than I could be so here's this. https://poworks.com/a-comparison-of-nmc-nca-lithium-ion-battery-and-lfp-battery#:~:text=The LFP lithium battery is,the market for varied applications. "Energy density----Upon current technology, the energy density of commercial single cell NMC lithium battery is around 200Wh/kg, and NCA battery may get more than 300Wh/kg soon; while energy density of LFP lithium battery is basically hovering around 100~110Wh/kg, some may get 130~190Wh/kg, but it is very difficult for it to exceed 200Wh/kg. NCA/NMC battery is applied mostly in cars which consume less power and in favor of fast speed and long range. Theoretically, cars using NCA lithium batteries can run farther than those using same number of LFP batteries; and LFP vehicles are preferably chosen to be city buses at present, because the range of them is not long, and they can be charged within a short distance in cities, where a lot of charging piles can be easily built. Space occupation----Choose BYD for buses and Tesla for cars. Benefited from higher energy density, a single NMC/NCA battery cell can provide twice as much space as an LFP battery, which is very important for cars with limited space. So we can see it in the commercial market, Tesla focus on NMC/NCA battery, and BYD produces LFP battery. So there is a saying in China's EV market, "Choose BYD for buses and Tesla for cars". While this year in March 2020, BYD announced their new LFP battery pack saving 50% space of their previous pack, and got positive sales with their Han EV sedan installed with the Blade Battery. At the same time, Tesla unveiled their new model powered by LFP battery from CATL as well. Safety----Most important of all, the reason for choosing LFP battery for city buses is the essential concern of safety. There have been many fire accidents with Tesla cars from consumers since Tesla Model S was brought to market, although direct reason of fire may differ. One reason is that Tesla's battery pack is composed of more than 7,000 units of Panasonic / Tesla NCA lithium battery. If these units or the entire battery pack has an internal short circuit, they may generate open flames even big fire, especially in car crash; thankfully it is improving. While LFP material will much less likely burn encountering a short circuit, and its high temperature resistance is much better than that of NCA/NMC lithium battery. Low-temperature & high-temperature resistance----The lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery has better performance for its high temperature resistance, while NCA/NMC is better for its low temperature resistance. Let me introduce one example. At a temperature of -20℃, the NMC lithium battery can release 70.14% of its capacity; while the lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery can only release 54.94%. The discharge voltage plateau of NMC lithium battery is far higher, and it starts earlier than that of the LFP battery at low temperature. Therefore, NMC battery is a better choice for applications at low temperature. Charging efficiency----The charging efficiency of NMC/NCA lithium battery is higher than that of LFP battery. Lithium battery charging adopts current-control and voltage-control method. That is, constant current charging is applied first, when the current and charging efficiency are comparatively high. After the lithium battery reaches certain voltage, the recharger switches to the second stage of constant voltage charging, at this period the current and charging efficiency are low. To measure the charging efficiency of a lithium battery, we use a ratio between the constant-current charging capacity and the total battery capacity, called “the constant-current ratio”. The experimental data on the constant-current ratio shows that there is little difference between NMC/NCA and LFP batteries charging them at a temperature lower than 10℃, but it's quite different at a temperature higher than that. Here is an example, when we charge them at 20℃, the constant-current ratio of NMC lithium battery is 52.75%, which is five times that of the lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery (10.08 %). Cycle life----The cycle life of lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery is better than NMC/NCA lithium battery. The theoretical life of NMC lithium battery is 2000 cycles, but its capacity fades to 60% when it runs 1000 cycles; even the best-known Tesla NCA battery can only maintain 70% of its capacity after 3000 cycles, while the lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery will remain 80% after 3000 cycles. "

You have to spend 200k to get massaging rear seats and semi-autonomous driving? Just buy the better Lincoln at half the price.

For @smk4565 https://www.motortrend.com/features/lincoln-suv-lineup-updates-changes?slide=6 2022 Lincoln Aviator: What We Think In many ways, the bigger the SUV, the better the Lincoln. We currently rank the Aviator as the best vehicle in the three-row luxury segment. The exterior and interior design are both outstanding, with bold, distinctive lines and loads of wood, metal, and leather; it's nearly impossible to discern that the Aviator shares a platform with the underwhelming Ford Explorer. Lincoln's standard twin-turbo V-6 is powerful and plenty quick, too, and those after more power can opt for the Grand Touring plug-in hybrid (though we'd recommend the non-hybrid in this case). https://www.motortrend.com/features/lincoln-suv-lineup-updates-changes?slide=7 2022 Lincoln Navigator: What’s New Lincoln is making a big debut with the 2022 Navigator. The largest and in-chargest Lincoln is the first model to feature Lincoln ActiveGlide, a semi-autonomous system analogous to Ford BlueCruise. Lincoln is also adding second-row massage seats (a segment first), plus new Central Park and Invitation themes for the Navigator Black Label. Front and rear styling have been updated, and the center touchscreen has been enlarged to 13.2 inches. https://www.motortrend.com/features/lincoln-suv-lineup-updates-changes?slide=8 2022 Lincoln Navigator: What We Think There's a reason the Lincoln Navigator sits atop our rankings of full-size luxury SUVs. Yes, the twin-turbo V-6 and 10-speed auto provide effortless acceleration, and, of course, we appreciate that there's plenty of space even in the third row. But it's really all about this interior—an opulently finished art-deco reminder that in some spaces, America still does best. For the 2022 Navigator, we hope the updated suspension improves the ride quality, one of our few complaints about the pre-2022 SUV.

As long as the bed can accommodate 1 cubic yard of top soil or whatnot, it would be sufficient for me. That's about my line to draw if the bed is large enough or not.

Personally, I would prefer the LFP battery over the NCA battery. Quicker charge times and the ability to use the full battery capacity, SOLD.

"less range" but you can recharge to 100% so you're actually getting more range on a regular basis, compared to charging to 80%, as suggested by Tesla.

Impressive, imo, for a four door sedan and thank you for the perspective.

What else runs 7 minutes and 30-ish seconds? I don't know actually how quick or not quick that is.