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I was being sarcastic but they did both get the 6.2 but the EXT got 8 more horses and the same torques, from what I read.

That was the low times for Cadillac. It probably only cost them $38 to swap badges for the Cadillac Avalanche. but they charged $10,000 more for it!

Poor execution. Ford, GM, and Ram sell plenty of their 60-80 half ton trucks in Platinum, High Country, Denali, and Limited trims.

Because of their technology. ORIGINALLY, Rivian was supposed to underpin a Lincoln SUV but that fell through earlier this year. "It is a strategic, long-term partnership, Ford CEO Jim Farley says. Ford will look for forms of co-development or sharing of technology or platforms in the future. "But we're not just running over to Plymouth [the Michigan town, where Rivian Engineering and Design Center is located] and giving them assignments." RJ Scaringe, CEO of Rivian, is equally bullish. "We have a very good relationship with Ford," he tells MotorTrend. "We haven't announced anything with Ford in terms of what we might do together," he says. "We're just being very thoughtful of the discussions that are going on." When there is something to announce, "we would announce together." "

Completely agree. But I do understand why Tesla started where they did. They didn't have the resources Rivian currently does. As of now, I'm hoping Rivian really takes off and makes a decent portfolio with their resources and the CEO seems like an all around good guy so I'm(obviously) rooting for them. They have their IPO coming soon, too, so they'll be going public. I'd like to be able to get in on them early, if possible. That's a shame because pickup buyers definitely buying luxury trucks. I think they could have success if they really made an effort for a full size truck. I don't think nor expect it would outsell any current truck on the market because I'd assume it would be a 60-120k truck but I think it would, at the very least, pay for itself.

If Rivian didn't have partnerships with Amazon and Ford, I would have a much greater doubt in them. But, they do so I am quite confident they will make it. I'm not sure about the others though.

Is that what has happened to Tesla thus far?

Tesla has a hill to climb in the truck market already. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-rivian-r1t-electric-pickup-truck-first-drive-review/ "The 2022 Rivian R1T Is the Most Remarkable Pickup We’ve Ever Driven Yep, we drove it. Are you ready for the electric truck revolution? The 2022 Rivian R1T is the first mass-produced electric truck to hit the U.S. market, but that's hardly the most interesting thing about it. Its electric powertrain notwithstanding, the R1T is unlike any pickup we've ever driven—part truck, part sport sedan, and 100 percent amazing. It's been speculated that pickup buyers are too conservative to embrace electrification, but after our first drive in a pre-production Rivian R1T, both on-road and off-, we think this is the electric truck that will turn them into believers. There's so much we want to tell you about the Rivian R1T that it's difficult to pick a place to start, so let's begin with the basic layout. Sizewise, the R1T is a tweener, slotting somewhere between a midsize pickup like the Chevy Colorado and a traditional half-tonner like the Ford F-150. The Rivian R1T's shape and compact bed mimic those of "lifestyle" trucks like the Honda Ridgeline and Hyundai Santa Cruz, but it'll tow 11,000 pounds according to Rivian and rock crawl like a Jeep Gladiator according to us. And it jets around corners like no pickup truck ever has. ..."

Heck, BMW doesn't even have ONE all-electric truck or SUV to compete with Rivian.

They're new. They can't initially drop a 6 vehicle lineup. The point was just that they offer two vehicles out of the gate, both of which are HUGE selling body styles here in the US, NOT a sedan. I guess, technically they have a work van as well.

This is news to me, as well. I thought they started at like 100k (not the 150 smk was claiming).

They immediately have a truck and SUV.

I thought there have been... But this is a modern Alfa so I wouldn't think so. Good point there.

Also, what's going on with the rotor and two calipers, on what looks like the front? I assumed that was the parking brake but isn't that always on the rear? I guess with the damage it could still be the rear.

Corvette. SUV.

We will never know...

I guess we will see how the Mustangs go. Away? No. Adding one next to their other Mustang to drive daily? Yes.

100%. It would be too late to do so now but if they developed an EV version, I'd be all for it. Heck, even 5 years ago would have been plenty fine. A Mustang wasn't a "AWD 4-dr SUV" either, until they made one. Why, would it make you not buy one? ?

I could me mistaken, but GM has the most generic CUV/SUV lineup of any company. Nobody has a more bland and boring lineup. The only ones that stand out at the big boys in the Tahoe, 'Burban, 'Slade.

Pipe dreaming is exactly what it is. There's also nothing wrong with that.

Then you don't think very hard. I didn't say "sports car SUV". "sporty" is not the same. Kind of like a sporty station wagon. I know that's a concept you understand.

I don't think you're understanding how branding within a corporation can and does work.

Mustang was a model as well, until it was a brand and they made a specific model based off the name. Based on that logic, why ever make a sporty SUV? I mean, "most" are just driven daily to and from work and Walmart. I'd even wager "most" Corvettes aren't driven all out every time either. Why even make the Corvette?

General Motors has zero RWD-based SUV's that compete with high end sporty SUVs. In fact, GM has zero sporty SUVs across all 17 brands. Correct, and Chevy had no Corvette until they made the Corvette. That's exactly how things work.

I still see zero issues with a Corvette-branded SUV sitting along side a Corvette. Make it Cayenne-sized and competitive and it would sell like hot cakes.