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But how big do these cars get? Does a CTS or CT5 become the size of a Chrysler 300? Does the ATS become the size of Infiniti Q50 or Acura TLX? BMW is just as guilty, they have had some bad size creep on the 3 and 5-series as of late. I don't get the notion of forcing low end cars up market such as was done with CTS. Making the car bigger could hurt sales, not help. Even Chevy and Ford are doing it. The Cruze is way bigger than a Cobalt was, the Malibu has grown, pretty soon the Impala will be pushed out. Ford is making the Focus larger, the Fusion longer, killing the Taurus. These brands are killing the nameplates of their larger, more profitable vehicles to push low end models up. In Chevy's example, they shoudl drop the Spark name plate, make the subcompact the Sonic, what is currently the Sonic becomes the Cruze, the Cruze becomes Malibu and the current Malibu/Impala merge into one car that is an Accord/Camry fighter. This lets Chevy sella $17,000 Malibu which seems like incredible value, but really it is the same car a $16,000 Cruze would be, yet GM pockets $1,000. It's like you didn't actually read what he actually wrote and are still asking the same questions as before (that have been answered ten fold).
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And I am so glad SMK is not charge of marketing for any of there companies he mentioned.
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But how big do these cars get? Does a CTS or CT5 become the size of a Chrysler 300? Does the ATS become the size of Infiniti Q50 or Acura TLX? BMW is just as guilty, they have had some bad size creep on the 3 and 5-series as of late. I don't get the notion of forcing low end cars up market such as was done with CTS. Making the car bigger could hurt sales, not help. Even Chevy and Ford are doing it. The Cruze is way bigger than a Cobalt was, the Malibu has grown, pretty soon the Impala will be pushed out. Ford is making the Focus larger, the Fusion longer, killing the Taurus. These brands are killing the nameplates of their larger, more profitable vehicles to push low end models up. In Chevy's example, they shoudl drop the Spark name plate, make the subcompact the Sonic, what is currently the Sonic becomes the Cruze, the Cruze becomes Malibu and the current Malibu/Impala merge into one car that is an Accord/Camry fighter. This lets Chevy sella $17,000 Malibu which seems like incredible value, but really it is the same car a $16,000 Cruze would be, yet GM pockets $1,000. Mercedes does the exact same thing. They pushed up the C Class to be able put out the sub $30k CLA for example. As a matter of fact, all companies do this.
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The S Class does very well in China well also being made there.The S-class does well everywhere, and it has to be made there to sell there because of the import tax laws in China. If you buy an S-class or E-class in the USA it is made in Sindelfigen, Germany. . That's not what I'm talking about but thanks for playing. We already know that if you had to live in China that you would not buy one that was made there. We've talked about this. If I had to live in China, I would still buy a Mercedes, which in most cases would be made in China. Just like people that live in the USA and buy a GLC or C-class or GLE are buying a Mercedes made in the USA. They are often built in the region of the world where the car is sold. Certain cars with lower volume are only tooled up at one factory though, such as the SL. High volume like a C-class is built in 3 or 4 different factories. Every car maker does this. Funny because that's not what you said a few weeks ago. Back then you said you'd never drive a Chinese made Mercedes (on the CT6 made in China thread). Interesting. And you are proving Balthazaars point.
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Chevrolet News:What is the Future of the Chevrolet SS?
surreal1272 replied to William Maley's topic in Chevrolet
Not referring to you. There are some who don't even post here anymore that just pop in to see what they can down vote and then they are gone. No comments, no posts, no contributions to this site whatsoever other than to troll posts of people they don't like. They use that one down vote for the day and POOF, they are gone again. That is what I am talking about.Seriously..? See that would grab one of my "you're a douche" votes. lol I don't understand how you could have that much anger/hatred towards somebody via the internet ALONE. Never met, Never heard each other's voices, don't even know what they look like, yet there is that much hatred. Blows my mind. Good lord man. Stop overdramatizing what I am talking about. It's a simple observation of what the trolls around here were doing. You and I both know that is what has been going on in some of these cases. I am not being a douche at all and if you think that is "you're being a douche" vote then the problem is with you and your perceptions. In this case, your perception about me is wrong here. Again, there is no anger, no hatred. It is an observation that can actually be backed up with facts (this has been discussed before). I'm just tired of the children. If you confusing that with hatred or anger, then I don't know what else to tell you. Don't vote all you want if you continue to feel something about me that isn't there. That's all I'm going to say about it because it's taking away from the topic.Hey man, I sent you a pm. I really didn't clarify what I meant by that. Sorry about that. It's all good in the hood.- 105 replies
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The S Class does very well in China well also being made there. The S-class does well everywhere, and it has to be made there to sell there because of the import tax laws in China. If you buy an S-class or E-class in the USA it is made in Sindelfigen, Germany. . That's not what I'm talking about but thanks for playing. We already know that if you had to live in China that you would not buy one that was made there. We've talked about this.
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The S Class does very well in China well also being made there.
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Chevrolet News:What is the Future of the Chevrolet SS?
surreal1272 replied to William Maley's topic in Chevrolet
Not referring to you. There are some who don't even post here anymore that just pop in to see what they can down vote and then they are gone. No comments, no posts, no contributions to this site whatsoever other than to troll posts of people they don't like. They use that one down vote for the day and POOF, they are gone again. That is what I am talking about. Seriously..? See that would grab one of my "you're a douche" votes. lol I don't understand how you could have that much anger/hatred towards somebody via the internet ALONE. Never met, Never heard each other's voices, don't even know what they look like, yet there is that much hatred. Blows my mind. Good lord man. Stop overdramatizing what I am talking about. It's a simple observation of what the trolls around here were doing. You and I both know that is what has been going on in some of these cases. I am not being a douche at all and if you think that is "you're being a douche" vote then the problem is with you and your perceptions. In this case, your perception about me is wrong here. Again, there is no anger, no hatred. It is an observation that can actually be backed up with facts (this has been discussed before). I'm just tired of the children. If you confusing that with hatred or anger, then I don't know what else to tell you. Don't vote all you want if you continue to feel something about me that isn't there. That's all I'm going to say about it because it's taking away from the topic.- 105 replies
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Chevrolet News:What is the Future of the Chevrolet SS?
surreal1272 replied to William Maley's topic in Chevrolet
Not referring to you. There are some who don't even post here anymore that just pop in to see what they can down vote and then they are gone. No comments, no posts, no contributions to this site whatsoever other than to troll posts of people they don't like. They use that one down vote for the day and POOF, they are gone again. That is what I am talking about.- 105 replies
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People vote down because they are children. Just do away with it altogether and get rid of the last of those children.- 105 replies
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2014 Cadillac CTS-V Wagon 2007 Dodge Magnum SRT8 2014 Ford Raptor (because you need a big ole off road machine) 2016 Cadillac Escalade (for when I don't need the big ole truck) 2016 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 (for evenings with the mistress)
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I actually like the look of the S90. Very sharp and doesn't convey a "cookie cutter" look like so many others do. Very nice.
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Well, as long as you have yet another excuse for Mercedes. It isn't an excuse, Tesla sold 25,000 Model S in the USA in 2015. That is a good number for a $100,000 car, but there aren't any other pure EVs anywhere near that price range, and Tesla as a company had one model. The the Leaf was the only $30,000 EV and the Volt, i3 and Ford EVs didn't exist, Leaf sales would triple. People like to say how the Model S outsells the S-class, that means it outsells many other cars too. The Model S outsells the XJ, A8, 7-series and Quattroporte combined. The big difference is the Model S doesn't make any profit, the S-class does. No. You are missing the point here SMK. You're still making excuses and following them up with half truths (like the Tesla S not making a profit). Thanks for playing though.
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I honestly don't know but I doubt you can just park next to any random building and just plug your car into their outlet. I know if I was the business owner I wouldn't allow that unless they were buying products or services. So yes, there are outlets EVERYWHERE but you can't just use one owned by somebody else. More and more places (like here in the Phoenix area) have charging stations set up there (mostly large shopping areas and shopping centers, which makes sense). Folks are shopping there anyway, and it makes for a nice incentive for a EV driver to shop in those places. Great marketing if you ask me. More of that is coming too.
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Pssst!! Cadillac is NOT, repeat: NOT racing mercedes to sell millions upon millions of vehicles in every price class. How about just 1 car over $100,000? Just stop.
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Pssst!! Cadillac is NOT, repeat: NOT racing mercedes to sell millions upon millions of vehicles in every price class. How about just 1 car over $100,000? Pick and argument and stick with it. You first claim it's about sales and now it's about "exclusive models". Let's go back to "sales" shall we? Cadillac will not pass Mercedes in sales nor to do they have to. Not every luxury make needs to pad their sales with boxy vans, B cars, and platform sharing pick ups (hello Nissan).
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So they are just doing putting out the same cars with different skins. Sounds about right.
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New York Auto Show: 2017 Kia Cadenza: Comments
surreal1272 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Reader Reviews
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Seeing some similarities to this but nice nonetheless.
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"Hello? Toyota?" "Yes." "The Aztek would like it's ugly back now"
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Not putting too much stock in to this because about 60-70% of this will never see production. Interesting concept but a concept nonetheless. The Conti nose does not work on this at all and the profile of it looks like a stretched Range Rover. Just not feeling the outside of this at all.
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