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HE: here's a picture of a 1932 Studebaker President coupe-roadster owned by a friend of mine. I've been up close & personal to this car and even been fortunate enough to ride in it once. Nothing today could ever hold a candle to stuff like this: My personal number one, meaning what I would collect if I had Jay Leno money and connections, however, would definitely be Simplex.

-Simplex -Packard -Hudson/Essex/Terraplane -Auburn/Cord/Duesenberg -Pierce-Arrow -Studebaker ....and every other fine automobile that hasn't been built in a half-century or better. New vehicles have no class or substance or style for the most part. But because I HAVE to pick a modern manufacturer(s), I'd say the Germans have me. Mercedes, BMW, and Audi all have a ton of neat offerings. But even then, the older stuff is always better. Pre-World War II Mercedes and BMW's and Audi's stuff from their Auto Union days (think Horch) are way cooler than anything they build today. BMW gets extra props because they also build fantastic motorcycles. I kick myself to this day for not buying an old coworker's 1970 R75/5. It was beautiful. Could have had it for a song, but I thought it fit to buy another rusty old Cadillac at the time instead!

Took my dad out for a big breakfast early this morning and will hopefully be going fishing this afternoon if the weather will let up for a few hours.

I think OB should get to make his own custom member type like the admins do for all his years of faithful posting around here if he doesn't like the title he's got. Personally, I think the standard title is funny, but to each his own.

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You're absolutely right. If there's one thing I've learned, it's that cash talks and bull$h! walks. I think I may have to e-mail, get the additional photos, and maybe arrange a meeting soon! Also cool: a little digging through my photos shows that this truck is like the twin brother of the one in the 1981 sales brochure:

http://providence.craigslist.org/car/718697890.html I found one! In driving distance! And it's not a complete $h!box! And it has the 292 inline six so it would even be economical to drive! Should I call now, or wait to see if the price goes down? Everybody's broke, so it's almost guaranteed to. What should I do?!?

This is a fantastic concept, but why just stop at muscle cars? Seems like everything with steel bumpers is now a RARE CLASSIC ANTIQUE and THEY DON'T MAKE 'EM LIKE THAT ANYMORE and THERE AIN'T MANY LEFT AROUND and is worth five grand. Eleven if it runs. I think your bro needs a spinoff site for things that aren't classified as "muscle cars."

If it ever comes to that, I think I may have to sacrifice my '70 DeVille and turn it into something akin to the Deathmobile from Animal House. Nobody will ever take me or my toys alive!

Wow, what a nice car that is! With all the stuff I've had, I often wonder how I still have not yet managed to own an old G-body, be it nice OR just a beater. I really need to own one soon I think.

How much?

My thoughts and prayers are with you; I'm sure she'll make a speedy and full recovery.

Very cool. I think the Formula 400 would be the pick of the bunch for me. And why the eff does nobody make those awesome double whitewall tires that are in like EVERY old ad from this era anymore? I would put those on all sorts of stuff if they were available!

Wow, what a beauty! I was | | this close to buying a green on green 1970 Bonneville wagon, but couldn't come up with the money fast enough. Guy sold it the day before I had the cash. Ah well, I'll have to find another some day...

Ratillac for now, anyways, but hopefully not forever. For whatever reason my girlfriend and parents really love this car (you should have seen some of the looks most of my past beaters have gotten!) and that alone is enough for me to make it nice as time goes on. Maybe I can convince one of them can "babysit" it for me if I find myself in need of space for a new toy a few years down the road :AH-HA_wink: So as you all probably know by now, I picked up a 1970 Cadillac Sedan DeVille a few weeks ago for the princely sum of $600 off of two fruity yuppie brothers in southern New Hampshire: The dorks at the front and rear of the car are them. The dork in the middle wearing the shirt that matches the color of the car is me. I swear I didn't plan it that way! So anyways, I picked this old tank up in order to have a summer beater/backup car for me and the girl when we're working on one of our daily drivers or just don't feel like driving them. It ran good enough, drove good (has a brand new rebuilt transmission installed two years ago with a 50,000 mile warranty that is transferrable to me), and was an incredibly solid car (originally from Florida- I have the original Florida title from 1970) save for the front fender bottoms and the typical GM rear window rot. It needs a few little things before I get into addressing that stuff, though. Since picking her up, I have done the following: -had the front wheels rebalanced with the wheel weights on the inside so it can wear a full set of hubcaps again -had the carburetor rebuilt -full tune-up: plugs, wires, cap, rotor, points, condenser, PCV, air filter, fuel filter, and oil change -all new vacuum hoses -set the timing Next on the agenda: new valve cover gaskets, water pump and all incidentals (themostat, heater hoses, radiator hoses, new coolant, etc.), and redoing the front brakes (new pads, rotors turned, new wheel bearings, calipers rebuilt, and new brake hoses). I also really need a driver's sideview mirror. Stay tuned and watch as yet another Cadillac nickels and dimes me to death!

I also nominate the "Do Not Hump" picture as the best of the bunch, followed closely by the one with the red leaves in it. Nice set, BV.

I could care less if it was 110 if it was a dry heat, but this everything sticks to everything else $h! is no good at all. I got my AC up full blast!

Were I you, I would instead spend a similar amount on a nice 1964-1970 GTO whose value can only go up as you enjoy it. That being said, the new GTO is certainly nothing to scoff at, and if that's what you want, then go for it. It's one of the few vehicles in recent memory I wholeheartedly support. Like Camino said, if you can live without the utility of your truck, then do it. You only live once, dude!

Maybe it's because all of the other targeted groups moved on with their lives while the Jews are still riding it till the wheels fall off and milking every last dime out of it that they can. The squeaky wheel gets the oil, y'know? Here we are, sixty years later, and the persecution of the Jews (and only the Jews) is still fresh on everybody's mind, millions upon millions of dollars have been paid out in "reparations" to Jewish (and only Jewish) Holocaust survivors and their families and dozens of movies have been made about Jewish (and only Jewish) people's experiences in Nazi concentration camps, but we almost never hear about the other victimized groups of the Holocaust, or any similar atrocities like the Armenian genocide, the Great Purges of Stalinist Russia, the killing fields of Cambodia, Bosnia, Rwanda, or any other major genocide that's occurred in the last hundred years with the exception of occasional coverage of Darfur, Sudan when some jerkoff celebrity pretends to care about it to get their face on television. Funny, isn't it? I agree one hundred percent with you that the spotlight should be shared equally between all targeted groups because they are all equally important as human beings.

Unfortunately, we will never know just how many were killed because of the lack of records, because the official "Holocaust" period is disputed (example: some count the beginning of the pogroms in the late 1930's as the beginning of the Holocaust, while others regard only the full blown concentration camp era (1940ish-1945) as being this period) and, like balthazar said, because everybody sweeps the deaths of the Gypsies, Roma, homosexuals, handicapped, and all the other "undesirables" under the rug. What little documentation is left varies greatly in the numbers provided. For example: This is a document from the International Red Cross released last year that lists the official combined death toll of all the Nazi concentration camps at only 271,307. Quite a discrepancy from six million. ALSO: A plaque at the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp, now a museum, used to claim that it exterminated over four million people. In 1990, the original plaque was replaced with a new one that states the camp exterminated only 1.5 million. So even though the figure was quite literally set in stone, it was simply replaced by another stone. 2.5 million less people is also quite a discrepancy. We will never ever truly know how many were killed. And, sorry to say, the Holocaust stories we all learned in history class as children are full of giant holes.

Hah, yeah, it needs a little love cosmetically, but mechanically it's awesome. And the body is actually super solid and straight, save for the front fender bottoms that are junk. There's not even one speck of rust behind either of the fender skirts; I pulled them off and looked around everywhere and there was nothing to be found. Rear dog legs, center posts, rocker panels, quarter panels, and trunk floor all solid! Since picking her up, I have done the following: -had the front wheels rebalanced with the wheel weights on the inside so it can wear a full set of hubcaps again -had the carburetor rebuilt -full tune-up: plugs, wires, cap, rotor, points, condenser, PCV, air filter, fuel filter, and oil change -all new vacuum hoses -set the timing All things considered, she runs pretty damn good. Next up will be a new water pump (think it's making a little noise and I say better safe than sorry) and complete coolant system flush with all the incidentals (radiator hoses, heater hoses, thermostat) and a new set of valve cover gaskets because the old ones appear to have been leaking a little bit towards the back of the motor. After that's all done, I can take it to the car wash and hit it with a little degreaser and pressure wash off all the junk that's on it. Then it's on to the front brakes: new pads and having the rotors turned for starters. The car pulls to the left a little bit when stopping, so I might have to have the calipers rebuilt if that's not remedied with the new pads (I think they're worn a little unevenly, perhaps from a caliper that stuck in the past?). I love having an old beater to work on

I agree with the majority of what he said, but not at all with the way in which it was presented. gm4life: were your drunk or something when you wrote this, dude? Usually your $h!'s a lot more coherent and well thought out than this.

A few questions: -Would you really want to cut up a wagon with the number of survivors being so few today? Unless you found one so bad that it would never be saved otherwise, but that sorta defeats the purpose of the cardinal rule of restoration: start with the best condition example you can, doesn't it? -Wouldn't the El Camino's cab structure (especially the rear window portion) and inner bed structure make for a more seamless transition from car to pickup in the final product? -An experienced fabricator should be able to graft the Buick skin to the Chevrolet inner structure successfully, right (because I, too, agree that the Buick's front with the Chevrolet's rear would look ridiculous)? As for the Cadillac frame, I don't know what to make of that. I find it very strange that the frame is from neither of the two vehicles the truck is made out of. Unless the guy literally had like a '59 Buick front clip, a '59 El Camino with a bad frame, and a rotted to death '62 Cadillac with a good frame. Weird. I think one of you should call the guy and find out what his reason for doing so was (and see how much you can talk him down!)

"1959 Buick Le Sabre / El Camino morphed into the worlds only "Le Camino." This is a potential magazine cover like project car with 1962 Cadillac frame and title. Will win any show when finished." 3000.00 obo 253 310 7845 One of you two HAS to buy it. HAS to. I decided for you. There is no getting around it.

Absolutely one hundred percent true. Regardless of what it is, you'll hear how rare it is and that they don't make 'em like this anymore and that there's not many of them around anymore and they go for all kinds of money on eBay and at the auction because it's a CLASSIC. You'll hear about how fantastic it ran and how beautiful and perfect the car looked inside and out when it was parked in the weeds fifteen years ago with the windows down. You'll also hear about the owner's grand plans of restoration that began and ended when they removed some vital engine component and threw it on the back seat or in the trunk, completely disabling the car for the rest of eternity and allowing condensation to settle in which turns to rust, and also allowing mice or other small rodents to take up residence in the void left behind. But you can have it for eight thousand dollars if you really want. This will depress you, but you'll leave your phone number anyways. You always do. Then you'll return after a few months, see a bare patch of dirt in the yard where the car used to be, and ask the owner what happened to it. "Oh, I just sent it to the junkyard last week," he'll say. That's the best when that happens. Best of luck to you on your mission to get this thing, but don't hold your breath. Unfortunately, thousands of awesome cars have died at the hands of retards that are all talk and no action.