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or.....wait for a verano turbo...........

now if they would simply stuff a turbo with about 270hp under the hood and an 8 speed auto with AWD........ / MT option

The AWD button is merely an electronic 'yes' or 'no' with regards to allowing the rear clutch pack to engage. There is very little mpg drop using AWD, not really noticeable. The predictive all wheel drive system is similar to the Porsche Panamera in that it can use the all wheel drive for performance driving. For example, if cornering hard and accelerating, some power will be sent aft and you will even get additional power steering assist. The coordination of the AWD and power steering and its ability to predict the intended motion of the vehicle and respond ahead of time is what sets the all wheel drive apart from the FWD. I get people tell me high twenties in everyday driving and I have also pulled 37 mpg on 40 mile freeway loops with some stopping at lights and such. The car can pull low thirties on the computer at a cruise set at 75 mph. The EPA ratings are a bit conservative. Any CVT car with constant redlining instead of even throttle foot will drop mpg fast. Compared to what I hear Cruze automatics and Elantras get for real world mpg, its pretty amazing for a car with more hp and all wheel drive to be right in the mix. The AWD is really nice to have in wet conditions and snow. The stock Dunlop 18" ers have stiff sidewalls and are average at best in snow conditions. They are better suited to dry warm weather. Average drivers can't tell any difference in AWD vs. FWD. If you drive a FWD only car you notice the car is lighter and more nose heavy, but the suspension feels pretty much the same. So hard driving and getting some rear wheel assist helps to not plow the vehicle. I am surprised at how many folks think the GTS is too stiff.....even the SE's.....I'd be interested in seeing if you think the car is too stiff. I've had some folks buy the base with 16th and gummy soft tires only because the softer ride. The CVT is a function of how willing people are to adapt to a CVT.. its one of the better ones, maybe not the very best. But if you hate CVT's anyways then it's not your car. I test drove a Focus Titanium the other day, in comparison the K steering is not as spot on hardcore as the Focus..... but it is very good. The Cruze's steering is lighter and very good for many consumer's everyday driving.....but it's not quite as quick and responsive as the K. Kizashi has a few pounds over the Cruze and Focus but I think the Dart and K have close to the same curb weights.

The problem is that while the notion of "larger displacement = higher fuel consumption" is quite widely accepted, it is a huge fallacy. Like many other things in public knowledge, if the public has their own cemented idea of what something is (i.e. toyota makes the best cars) why spend all your resources trying to fight public opinion when you could roll with it. I've tried to sell many a cheaper v6 car (aka malibu 3.5 vs. a 4 cylinder generic car) and even if the malibu is cheaper, has the same EPA rating, and gives more features and benefits for a cheaper price, people will say "but its a 6 cylinder, not a 4" and walk on and pay more for a 4 cylinder. I'd rather just see GM go with the most sellable technology with each of its products.

this would be the package i would get.

Kizashi and Cruze have nearly near identical dimensions, worth considering interior space and trunk comparo between the two. Elantra also has near identical dimensions. I would imagine the Dart is near identical also. The interior space inside is excellent in comparison to the Cruze.

a story i read on cadillac today said the twin turbo is a 3.6

how much for the new CEO? I suppose some of the 150M is needed for the fire truck to put out fires.

sent one out the door that exact color this a.m. was looking at a Cruze, he moved up! LMK what your mpg tests turn out. too bad you didn't get leather SLS..... I'll be real interested in your comparisons to other cars like Jettas, and anything else. 2013 brings back NAV / infotainment with pandora, bluetooth streaming, and other stuff. The 012 non NAV radio has the better sound. 012 didn't ship any nav units cars anyways.

made my day!!!!

fold em into GM. they buy their steering wheel controls from em anyways.

whatever the buyers with money tell them what they want, is what they would be best to build.

I'll second that, mr. Ocn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JTtudpax5Q

in the interest of as many diversified energy sources as possible, i don't mind some corn ethanol....but i strongly disapprove of it being mandated in the fuel supply (like here in MN) and i am not huge on subsidizing corn if it means its for fuel. ethanol blend is plain and simple an ag tax. i get 10-15% less mpg than the pure small engine gas, so i use more, that means i pay more for gas all around and it gums up my car. how is that good for me? note: brazil thrives on sugar based ethanol.

the exterior is still stodgy and dated, not that the interior is all that great either.

cool!

always loved it. 88 GP is the car that still looks fresh....must be that .29 cd

the allure of buying a car off amazon is nice. but i can tell through my exp. as sales, the price and importance of the merchandise is such that you do need a person, or group of, to ensure that the transaction is handled properly, trades can be measured, service can be taken care of, and to present the merchandise at least at a minimum level so the buyer understands the implications of all that they get into. Also, you cannot return a car without penalty, unlike returns at walmart. I do think there would be a role for custom ordering a car direct from the manufacturer and having it delivered at a dealership (the dealership that bids for your business to sell that car at your price). Then the dealership is just about delivery. Lots of things that happen at the dealer would be taken for granted by the customer pretty quick if d-ships were gone. It's the responsibility of the d-ship to have people on hand that do not repel buyers and actually enhance the service of buying a vehicle. In general this culture of i buy everything on line is stupid to a point because you can't touch the merchandise before you buy it, and it takes too long to get. There is an even bigger now factor on cars than people believe. And no bricks and mortar car place wants to be the test track for places that sell them online only.

solar > electricity > plug in and selling power back to the utlity companies (who got bought by big oil)

pump up the company with more execs...... their new marketing tagline, straight from billy joel "we didn't start the fire" i would guess the dude was sick of GM after 30 years anyways.

riviera- a lot of the dope teens and pups these days who didn't get driver's licenses right away or were too consumed with gadgets, who follow the online reviews like it was a smartphone, they might be the ones not test driving. they have no clue to evaluate anything in their life themselves. People rolling leases point, too....very valid.

CUE, MyLink, Intillilink, it's all the same

is this so their vehicles are not ugly and crappy anymore?

give it time, with discounts and rebates and GM card stuff, etc. the base ATS's will need those discounts to move and be used for advertising price leaders. there will be one at 30k ,i have no doubt.