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now, something with 250hp or so, as an option.

Is Ford going to show the Explorer yet or is that saved for Detroit?

honestly, RWD platform, 400hp v6, nice styling inside and out, this is an unexpected big win for Lincoln and Ford. And it will fund the next cop car/SUV chassis. My op of Ford is down the last few years but they did good with this one. May make the Cadillac XT67 look like crap possibly if it is lacking 400hp or a good dynamic chassis or LAVISH interior.

dealer that i got my car from has called me three times now this month to dangle out a special private offer of 1000 bucks to try get me to get into a new vehicle (8 months sooner). the sales downtown i assume is the motivation. but tell me this, why should i aspire to your vehicles, GM, when you package simple and common safety equipment like blind spot and cross path detection, that is standard on a lot of mainstream cars on other makes, but you choose to bundle into optional expensive trim packages, even on your Cadillac brand? You puff up your MSRP's to ridiculous levels that literally price out buyers before they can even muster courage to spend more than 90 seconds looking at pricing data to discover all the hidden and constantly changing incentives buried below the surface? Vehicles that would sell much better if the pricing and packaging models weren't so stupid? And GM, you spent the last ten years downsizing many of your vehicles and leaving a lot of folks with lesser powertrain options as well. Poor packaging and bad styling, who can't you own up to that rather than throw out the 'we'll close our plants' (used primarily to stake out ground vs. the union for future labor negotiations). And you do this why? So you can spend all this money on autonomous vehicles and electrics, techonology that should be funded on its own payback rather than raiding the pot from your normal product development budgets? When you could use that same money to develop real competition to challenge a lot of the current hot market sellers?? GM could have easily outTesla'd Tesla and made Tesla their bitch, but they didn't seize that opportunity when it was there. But i bet you they spent a shit load of money in development with nothing from a product standpoint to show for it. Where's the accountability to GM managment to pissing away all this money and having no product that showcases that, to make all that money back? Makes you wonder if some unwritten terms of the buyout wasn't to commit all sorts of resources to that 'unbillable' development work to be shared with the government or others.

Stuff I've seen suggests the CT5 surely won't be any larger inside than the CTS, excepting perhaps a little more knee room around a less obtrusive console. The styling based on spy pics doesn't suggest a game changer or even something improved. Large sedan is Cadilac's DNA. If the CT6 goes away, quite simply, they are f---ed. CT6 will replace their XTS volume if they repackage their trims and sell enough of them in non platinum 90k plus trim levels. This simply honors the fact that Cadillac can't sell at absurd transaction prices like the Germans, and that enough of their showroom product has to sell in lower lux tier volume prices to keep the dealerships doors open. I'll even go a bit further and suggest the people running GM don't even care 2 shits about the product. It's old lore that GM was run by bean counters but the influence of performance did come through. GM is so diluted in crap these days I don't think most at the top give a shit if GM doesn't fade into being Hyundai or Toyota. GM is more concerned with social media, PR, autonomous driving, electrics, than product. Show me any of the top tier execs who flex their muscle to fight for anything besides Corvette and Camaro, which may be all they are given the ability to even keep.

By (enough) performance car (choices) for the average Joe, I refer to say, a midsize sedan --with sport suspension---, that may hit say a 5.5 to 7.0 second 0-60, that sell for a mid level price. Not just burying the larger motor in a more expensive trim and options package, Regal GS is a great example. Hey, we'll sell a v6 Regal, but it will only be stickered at 44,000. Or the 2.0 only being available in Malibu with the full on Premier trim. At least Dodge offers the Charger with a v6. Honda's Accord Sport package is maybe one of the few cars that addresses driving and a decent motor for a close to mid pack middle America price. Or even simply, a mid level hatchback with decent handling, not a full blown Focus RS or ST but just something more playful.......Where is a simple 200hp engine upgrade for the Cruze? Right.

i don't see the Cruze going away. GM needs it for CAFE. Regarding the CT6, no way they kill that car after just announcing the v8 for it. Plus, it delivers what real Cadillac fans want. Size. My bet is they move it to another plant, China, or change it to CT7 as suggested. If Cadillac fully kills that car, then fuck them. They deserve what they have coming to them. Will anyone give two shits about Cadillac if they don't offer a full sized sedan? (but will probably still have a CT3 or CT4). I saw an interior spy photo of the CT5 interior on Burlapp cars. That won't take any business away from the Germans for interior design and quality. It's a reconfigured XT4 interior. The other point about this being a pre-emptive strike in the labor war, that makes sense to me also. Sorry to throw this out there, but post 2009, Barra led GM is becoming a joke. Spend all the $$$ on chasing autonomous cars and complying with CAFE. Mistakes with Camaro. No impactful EV releases that would challenge Tesla. Looking to move all vehicle assembly out of the US, seemingly. No performance vehicles for the average Joe, that aren't a pony car.

edit, it forced me into the Platinum because I wanted the light color interior. The sport is either Auburn or black inside.

yes, in a bad way. just my opinion, but the styling on the Camry is a disastrous mishmash of things. Between the Camry and Accord, both are styling disasters. JMO of course

what is befuddling to me is considering how ghastly looking the Camry is, it still sells a bunch.

It makes sense what you say. I am going to have to go back and check the configuration again. Last week I tried building a 19 CT6 online and it forced me into a platinum spec when I checked the 3.0 tt. I’ll go back and do that again. The new v8 now that would be the way to go!!

I would actually really be interested in a CT6 plugin hybrid. But i do admit a v6 would be a better engine choice. The hybrid packaging here too, not fully space efficient. But actually the fatal flaw for someone like me in a snow state is that is it not available with AWD. RWD only is an immediate 'no can consider' for me and 1/2 of the USA in general. Cadillac has made that particular fk up with the CTS Vsport as well. The best available and most interesting CTS is the turbo six and that's only available with RWD too. None of the performance ATS's are available with AWD either. Another current Cadillac fk up. You need to move to the platinum spec on the CT6 to get the twin turbo 3.0. I may someday look to find a CT6 hybrid or base 2.0 to have as a summer cruising car. Would be a neat find after all the big depreciation is gone.

CUV's are popular because people don't have to bend down so far to get in and out of them. And people will pay stupid cash extra because of this.

part of the reason for low Envision sales is a price that does not mate up to the perceived public value. With a better price (and not a 2012 design), it would have more volume. The Encore makes more sense to bring from Korea because it is higher volume and exploiting cheaper wages there helps keep a small car sell for a small price in the US. I'd buy that logic 100% fully if it were just the Envision we were talking about here, but we all know they could produce this in an Equinox / Terrain plant if they wanted to, with the 45k sticker prices and such. We also know the real intent of this was to be a big trojan horse to gain acceptance to producing GM cars in China and bringing them back here. Its the first step towards GM producing 3/4 of their sales volume of the US outside the US, which is really unacceptable for a company that was kept alive by our own government, when Honda and Subaru etc seem to make a high percentage of the cars they sell in the US, here.

is it inevitable that one day, 90% of all "Chevrolets" are made in China? just out of necessity to fight off invading Chinese brands?

We don't benefit from a future where a majority of our cars come from China, like so many other products. And over time that will likely be inevitable. If we get to that point where 3/4 of all our cars are coming from Mexico and China, is what we want to avoid. What that means for an effective tariff setup back and forth, I don't know. I do know the 25% number is bantered about and maybe that is just put out there to believe at some point in the future it will settle in at 10-15%. I don't know. We do really have to ask the question, why does GM need to make something like the Envision in China, and ship it over, or why do they have to make pickups that sticker for 60k in Mexico.

i could see them continuing it unofficially on a very small scale and not really advertising it. But you gotta set it up so the monthy is something like 1500-2000 a month in order to make money (on an Escalade).

i could throw a pontiac grille on this and we can call it the G7x, next ever Aztek! I am more sympathetic to Mits than others, because they sell for good prices and have solid warranty. we have relatives who have had a few Mitsubishis and they just want a car and don't want to pay lots more. For those folks it works. So overall I like this vehicle but it still has some things to fix. Long parking brake lever. and why if this is a new model didn't they add wheelbase? Also they need an optional engine with grunt. CVTs are here to stay particularly in Japanese vehicles.

manufacturers need to proliferate their hybrid powertrains at decent price to their normal model lines. I know the camrys and accords already do this, but hybrids won't get to meanstream until they end up in lots more mainstream models. We are to a point where people want a normal looking car with the hybrid benefit for not much more price and they don't want to drive something that makes them look like an ecoweenie

the cabin width is not bad though. elbow room, etc. the rear seat leg room is a bit less than i expected based on the hype and pictures, but it's not egregious considering the seating is upright. Lack of rear seat recline is a bit egregious IMO. Definitely a wider cabin than the Encore! The beauty about the XT4 is that IMO it may generate showroom traffic such that it will actually get people in and then the sales folks can switch the buyer to an XT5 if room if the stumbling block.

Bravo! Next time be sure to use ‘impact’ font, though. No, you are correct. She is very beautiful and perfect in that way.

i'd say that 38 for the hips is about right. maybe even 40. age wise, i would say more 36 than 38. but HE is just a pup they talk about whether the V series version will be a 4 pot or a 6. this image is just dying for a MEME ya know "I am devastated that Cadillac moved their world headquarters from New York City back to Detroit"

LOOK AT ALL THOSE MILLENIULZ!

VW doesn't want to sell very many of the cheap version is all this is about. Can't ask 45k for the well equipped Atlas if you have way too many 27,000 dollar Atlas' on the same showfloor. Car and Driver VW Atlas 2.0t FWD C/D TEST RESULTS: Zero to 60 mph: 7.2 sec Zero to 100 mph: 19.7 sec Zero to 110 mph: 26.5 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 7.6 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 4.1 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.9 sec Standing ¼-mile: 15.6 sec @ 91 mph Top speed (governor limited): 113 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 174 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad*: 0.86 g https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-volkswagen-atlas-20t-fwd-test-review " Little Big Four Despite being down 41 horsepower to the V-6, the Atlas 2.0T SE tested here was surprisingly quick at the track. The little forced-induction four pushed the hulking Atlas from zero to 60 mph in 7.2 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 15.6 at 91 mph. Both figures bettered the results we recorded for an all-wheel-drive Atlas V-6, which needed 7.9 seconds to hit the mile-a-minute mark and 16.0 seconds to cross the quarter-mile at 89 mph. Credit the Atlas 2.0T’s peppy performance to its comparatively low mass, which, at 4268 pounds, was 460 pounds lighter than the all-wheel-drive Atlas V-6. Additional accelerative assistance comes courtesy of the Atlas 2.0T’s wealth of low-end torque. With 258 lb-ft available from 1600 rpm, the 2.0T offers similar punch to the optional V-6, which produces 266 lb-ft at 2750 rpm. This Atlas 2.0T’s passing times were similar to those of the all-wheel-drive V-6 model. The four-cylinder needed 4.1 seconds to accelerate from 30 to 50 mph and 4.9 to get from 50 to 70 mph, whereas the AWD V-6 performed those tasks in 3.9 and 5.2 seconds. In other words, the story has a much happier ending this time than when Ford tried stuffing a 2.0T in its portly Explorer, where buyers were forced to pay extra to opt for its terminal lagginess. With less weight to haul around and two fewer cylinders to feed, the Atlas 2.0T was notably thriftier than its V-6 stablemate at the pump. The 2.0T’s EPA estimates of 22 mpg city and 26 mpg highway better the V-6’s 18/25 mpg city/highway ratings (17/23 with all-wheel drive). In our hands, the Atlas 2.0T returned 23 mpg over nearly 2000 miles of driving, while the V-6 managed only 19 mpg. It also sipped fuel at a rate of 27 mpg on our 75-mph real-world highway fuel-economy test, as opposed to 24 mpg for the AWD V-6." VW Atlas 3.6 AWD C/D TEST RESULTS: Zero to 60 mph: 7.9 sec Zero to 100 mph: 20.2 sec Zero to 110 mph: 25.3 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 8.2 sec Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.9 sec Top gear, 50-70 mph: 5.2 sec Standing ¼-mile: 16.0 sec @ 89 mph Top speed (governor limited): 116 mph Braking, 70-0 mph: 174 ft Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad*: 0.84 g https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-volkswagen-atlas-v-6-4motion-test-review

I still remember from my stint selling cars, a great customer, who was from another country and was in on work visa for a large company in it was either finance or computers or some high level management thing. When he moved his family here he had to buy cars. So the first thing he does is buy a new (used) BMW. He always wanted a BMW. What was the next thing he had to do? He had to put 4 grand into the BMW like a week after he bought it.... LOL I don't even remember what he bought from me, i think it was a truck. LOL