Camino LS6

Sorry to hear, what a hassle.

I'm talking more about the '77-84 timeframe, there were still decent musclecars all over PA back then.

Thank you, Mr. Blu. It's nothing big, but it will help me stay afloat for the moment.

Yeah, we considered the '82 Camaro a godsend at the time. Things certainly were bleak back then. But used musclecars were cheap!

Well, I just picked-up a brick walkway job tonight so the need is a bit pressing.

Not the easiest year for this topic, you almost have to go to trucks or exotics.

I get this completely, my contemporary gearhead friends all Hated new cars back then. It was all about finding the cleanest musclecar you could afford.

Gotta love those "Cornbinders".

Sure. Internal combustion engines can use a wide variety of fuels, both liquid and gaseous. What we lack is production and distribution capacity for anything other than oil-based fuels. What I hope for is some action on that front, and a diversification of both fuels and propulsion systems used in automobiles. We should never again have our economy rest on the supply of a single commodity. We need electric cars, extended-range electric cars, cars that run on ethanol, natural gas, hydrogen, bio-fuels, propane, as well as gasoline and diesel. With each car optimised for its intended use as well as its intended energy source. We should push flex-fuel vehicles, make retro-fits easier to do on older cars and trucks via EPA reform, assist in infrastructure development for alt fuels, and keep R&D going full-steam ahead. There is simply no reason why we can't make it happen, to say otherwise is to make excuses and limit possibilities. There is no "magic fuel", and that's a good thing - look what believing in one has already done to us.

The short answer is nothing. Because that is not what I was addressing. What I am saying is that cars, and by extension their weight, are the wrong targets when attempting to solve this problem. It is the fuels we should be concentrating on. All the "added lightness" in the world won't make oil less finite. So instead of attempting to make the cars safer while mandating increased fuel economy, while trying to keep prices under control, while hoping the economy rebounds, we should be concentrating on viable alternatives in fuel. Otherwise, we stifle everything else in the hope that we might delay the end of the oil supply. I think it's time to solve the problem instead.

If you were born in a generous automotive year, just find a good pic of one example and post it up. It doesn't have to be the "ultimate" for the year, just a hot car from the year of your birth.

Another view that shows just how stupid the CAFE approach really is. The unimaginative idiots that write such legislation have no clue about the implications, and they just fall back on old solutions (CAFE) which failed in the past. It's the wrong approach, and delays the sort of changes we really need to make.

Very cool International!

Feels like spring again.

For next Winter, yeah, I guess I am. But the truck thing is an immediate need.

I hear you on that, but I'm going to need a deal like this Dodge pretty soon. I desperately want to send the ROPOS away, and I need a truck ASAP.

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1665835023.html

Sweet bubbletop!

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1656721604.html

I'm pretty sure it's the same one I found stashed in a barn in the 80s. http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1662260532.html

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1639102373.html

Here's mine:

'68 Delta 88 convertible. Newish Aston Martin

70's