Camino LS6

Used GM cars.

Me too, but I liked Hovercat better.

I hope we hear about it soon.

You really are evil!

Clearly the HHR is a good product which sells well. And just how bad can a figure of 30% fleet really be when the vehicle is such that it offers a "Panel Van" option anyway?

I'm not arguing what the percetages are, just the fact that you were obviously quoting the HHR sales increase and crediting it to fleet when retail figures were being posted in the article. You could have simply said " Oops I read that wrong, my mistake" and gone on to make your point about fleet sales. But no, you can't even own up to a simple error. Please.

What Oldsmoboi said.

I've never heard of any owners badmouthing the HHR for anything. And it does make the (very) short list of FWD offerings that I have a positive view of. And for you, it offers ample opportunity for personalization as well as being a viable camping platform. Especially the panel version.

Don't forget that all of the VEs are scheduled to conform to the GMNA spec zeta at the first opportunity: say for example an early MCE. That could put the changeover much closer than 2012. At that point, it wouldn't really be the "current" Commodore any more and the G8 can become a GMNA model. Hopefully, that will open up production capacity at Holden for other Zeta variants.

Hey! Has anybody seen my fire? I left it around here somewhere... :AH-HA_wink: Interesting lyric, VVS.

:rotflmao: Great thread!

And... I have a snowplow! :AH-HA_wink:

Enzl, I think you should go back and read it one more time. Fleet is down, not up. Retail is up ,not down. And your massive fleeting comment followed your quoting of the HHR sales. C'mon now, own up.

I hope along with you. But I expect something for Caddy,Holden, and Opel from this platform. As well as several somethings for Pontiac,

Great Video to watch! I really have to fix the sound on my machine!

Well, in that case it worked - and I'm glad it did. The more people outraged at the excesses of this kind of thing the better.

An "agitator" ? Pretty narrow definition political correctness you have there. The label on it is unimportant, but the mindset is the same. And disgusting.

They did all of the 4th gen SS cars, though GM took the SS option internally after the LT1s. It gets complicated, but SLP actually did all of them.

Can I use the Silverado to push them over?!!! God, I'd love to do that!

Actually, there isn't much disagreement coming from me on those issues (perhaps a matter of degree). However, social engineering where it impacts personal choice and freedom has the potential to make me into a revolutionary rather quickly. The movement to a colorless, least-common-denominator society offends me deeply.

One glaring thing that really calls this into question (even without the BS call from Lutz) is that this would make absolutely no sense whatsoever for Chevy in North America. MT is full of it.

NUMMI needs to come to an end as does the Vibe. G8 is in production, and it seems, will add at least one or two variants. If PCS sees a future for the G8 beyond Holden-produced cars considering his opinion of the car and CD is confident of it enough to state it as fact, and the pure logic of it makes sense - well, if you do the math... Add in the fact that Lutz has called BS on the Alpha story and I am feeling much better than when I read the headline a few hours back. I'm also adding another mental note to MT's BS file.

Oh I haven't given up on it, BV hasn't really either it would seem. It would also seem that its future has been secured if he does. Time to turn our attention to that poor abused Z28.

Beat me to it,Northie. Enzl you are simply wrong about the HHR.