Camino LS6

Great story and pics! Too bad I couldn't have caught up with you earlier, would have loved to kick back and listen to some guitar while sipping a Canadian beer! Beer is Canada's finest ambassador. Keep those pics coming!

If you must buy Asian...

I assume you meant me? It's just that you are predicting doom for the only programs (RWD) that I care about. And, what you hope to see happen would effectively end my interest in GM cars. Not to mention, your opinion about Lutz's "replacement". Not exactly uplifting stuff from my vantage point.

I'm feeling a bit better now that Guion M posted this over at CZ28: You nailed Zeta on Holden's side and Pontiac's plans. Outside of that, Sigma's writing is on the wall but I wouldn't expect the next CTS to grow in size beyond the 2008 model. Zeta is a cheaper and better structure than Sigma, so it's essentially an open & shut case to move it to Cadillac. In addition to the Camaro & Impala, I'd also expect the El Camino here during the 2009CY, making it a really fun time to be a Chevrolet enthusiast. I haven't seriously believed Chevrolet would have a large coupe since it began looking very likely Holden would be making the Monaro replacemnt in Australia instead of in North America (last fall). The whole basis of building the large coupes here in NA was that Chevrolet's volume would make it worthwhile. While I can easily see Chevrolet importing a version as a Chevrolet "GTO" (it's going to be sold in the Middle East as a Chevy anyway), I don't see 35-45,000 G8s and another 12-15,000 GTOs and another 150-160,000 Holdens for local and world distribution leaving much room for another 15-20,000 Chevy coupes. I'll be the 1st to admit it's possible (to fill out capacity), but I wouldn't bet my beer money on it at the moment. I'm out of the loop on recent developments on the small RWD chassis (been preoccupied). Can tell you the basic premise is to create a new versitile architecture to bolt the Solstice's IRS, front suspension, and drivetrain to (it's NOT a revised Kappa). The Torana concept was an offshoot of a competition between GM North America and GM Holden to create the structure (NA's version won BTW... Torana's starting point was Zeta). But the size of the Torana is what we're looking at. Pontiac, Holden, Opel (including Saturn), and Cadillac will have models based on this architecture, and the early leading candidate to build them is Wilmington (lots of things can change between now & then, though). This small chassis will be the basis for sedans and a coupes. It initially started out as a '4 cylinder only' structure, last heard was the idea was changed to accept V6s. GM-Holden sees the chassis as a volume sucessor to the VE. GM-North America sees it as the next performance car chassis. This is being eyed as a G6 successor. Unless Camaro sales simply flat-out take off (meaning approaching 200K annually) and the coupe market explodes, common wisdom is this is probally the only chance of seeing the Firebird return.

They're dead if they do.

This "iffyness" on Zeta is making me want to give up on new cars. My whole life I have watched cars I like get cancelled and replaced by soulless FWD blobs. Then, GM comes-up with Zeta and all is well. Then, Zeta is put on hold. Then on hold again. I'm tired of freakin' waiting! At least old cars can bring a smile to my face. Maybe I'll just disappear into the barn and concentrate on my projects. Call me when the real cars are ready.

You are one depressing guy to have around.

How many of you buy a car/truck only because it best fits your needs? I can't do that - I have to want it as well.

Not a jab at you, but I'd rather walk than drive those cars. No way could I make myself want any of them.

And you can't be more specific, right?

Umm, does that mean that you are calling yourself "average"?

Care to clarify?

Yes to stick shift! No to this entire segment, I wouldn't open my wallet for any of these cars. I know, I know, that's what Joe average consumer wants - but I would never buy this sort of car. Midsize FWD, has no appeal to me whatsoever. And it is a rare sedan that can capture my interest generally.

Don't care for compacts, so the list is short. The only two I'd actually consider buying: Solstice and Sky. I'd take a Mini, if someone gave it to me.

Link: http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518037

Generally, I take you at your word but that sure looks like a coupe to me. Everything else is pure speculation.

http://chirpthird.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7934

Hmm, the Goat would be a natural...

If the "lemansamino" is an '82 or newer, it is a G body, older and it's an A. I love both Camino concepts shown in these pics. I never got the story on the Pontiac version, but The Impala-based SS damn near went to production. I want them both. :AH-HA_wink:

Hmm, one of them is actually a Mitsubishi. :AH-HA_wink:

I'll check out all the options when the time gets closer. There are so many different pumps that might do the trick it may take a while to choose.

All true, and I'm looking forward to the project. :AH-HA_wink:

Fuel filter or fuel pump, would be my guess.