Sixty8panther

Thanks PCS, that makes me drooooooool, someday I gotta step up to an LT-1 Fleetwood Brougham!

1980s Autocar 10-wheeler dump 1968 Buick Wildcat hardtop (same one) red/black 1990s Mitsu 3000GT with a rear wing that was about 3 feet tall 1972 Cadillac deVille 4-dr hardtop (UPS drivers'daily driver year round, I see it everyday) 1973? BMW 2002, safety orange 1963? Ford Falcon two-door hardtop white/red At the junkyard: 1986? Chevy Caprice Classic 2-door 1978 Datsun King Cab pickup 5-speed... complete three 1980s Mercedes hardtops from the 1990s (two 300CEs and one 560SEC) 1976? Pontiac two door fullsize too many semi-complete B-bodys to list 1976 Corvette (rotted to death, fiberglass body in pieces) 1961 Mercedes sedan (with the goofy tailfins) three (or was it four) 1980-85 Cadillac Bustleback Sevilles 1980s BMW 635, pretty stripped I'd love to see that... I miss my '64 Super-88 Holiday. Had some fun roadtrips in that car, now it's the Netherlands.

Spoken like a true "car guy" who drives a FWD economy car and does not realize that it's only "pretend-sporty". :wink:

Here's mine: Supercar: 1931 Cadillac V16 dual cowl phaeton Sportscar: 1969 Chevrolet Corvette ZL1 (the daytona yellow one with tuxedo black stripes) Sports Sedan: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V Luxury Car: 2008 Mercedes Benz CL600 hardtop Family Vehicle: 1959 Buick Electra 225 flat-top four door hardtop Just for fun: 1961 Cadillac Coupe deVille 2dr hardtop, yellow or baby blue with white interior Truck: 1937 Chevrolet Truck with a tube-chassis & Duramax Diesel Turbo Economy: 1969 Chevrolet Corvair Monza, two-door hardtop with a 4-speed manual That's how I roll, A'ight!

Whatever.... Here's three cheers for: Selling out Cutting Corners & Mediocrity I'm a man of principle, GM was going to make one car that was not going to suck at ALL, but now there's already been a major compromise. If I wanted a CHEAP muscle car with crappy, chunky B-pillars I'd get a Mustang... but GM is better than this. And before you say I would have never bought it you better think before you speak.... I've alredy financed a five year old Cadillac so don't go telling me I would have never pulled the trigger. The hardtop bodystyle was my No.1 hot button and without that the whole thing falls appart... glued in side windows are for Cobalts & Civic coupes, not halo MUSCLE CARS!

LOL, at least it's RWD! That makes it hot-rod worthy!

Yeah the car is filthy... that's the way it goes here in New England in the month of January. I dragged her home after dropping in the side-post NAPA battery out of the Datsun and putting in a few gallons of fresh 93-octane, a car wash was not high priority. Those Wal*Mart hubcaps are hideous, I'll be replacing them with a set form some old '77 LeSabre or '68 Electra as soon as I can. But you see where I'm coming from, right Balthazar? Look at the alternatives? If you want a cheap car from the 1990s that will run forever, a real tank with a REAL frame, RWD & good comfort & decent fuel economy it's either a B-body or the uglier, cheaper Crown Vic/G.Marq/Towncar... or you really give up and buy one of the other "luxury cars" from GM that have FWD, look like gel-tablets with sideways mounted motors and don't ride anything as nice.... not to mention the joys of FWD ownership & the many FUBARs that entails come maintenance time. Back in he early 1990s when the restyled B-body hit the streets I thought they looked goofy, now in hindsight it's even cooler looking than the F-bodys of the same era... at least to me. Knowing that underneath that tired old paint and dented up sheetmetal are basically the mechanicals of a full size truck with a bulletproof motor, trans. & structure is what makes the 1990s B-body the coolest product from GM. They're trully the LAST of their kind. Even the new Zeta cars will probably have a tough time living in the shaddow of the B-body. I absolutely LOVE this car.... it's in need of about $400 worth of interior cosmetice and could benefit from a paintob but it runs and drives like a dream. I'll be sinking a few hundred bucks into it to make it more presentable but the purchase price was $200 and that's only $50 more than the junkyard gave me for the non-running '92 SAAB 900 that I donated to them after a friend of a friend gave it to me for free. The only real imediate issue with this Roadm@nster is the rotted out right rear floorboard, that needs to be welded up ASAP. The milage is 111,950 which is not too bad at all for a $200 winter beater, esp. since it's about half the money of the typical going price around here for a '92 Caprice with 200+K miles and a tired old 305. I think this is one of the best deals I've ever gotten, and that's saying a LOT! And to answer the last question this will probably become the replacement for the Mercedes once that sells and I'll buy myself a certain Buick that I've had my eye on... more on that later, first I gotta fix up this old tired girl for Julie so I can sell the Mercedes, and I will once again have an ALL GM fleet.

Skodas were cooler when they were all rear engined & RWD.

So I bought my fourth Buick last night. I waited years to own a Buick after owning dozens of GM cars. My theory was that I was going for broke, my first Buick was going to be a '59 or nothing. Just two months after I brought my '59 LeSabre I had THREE Buicks in my driveway... the second being a '76 LeSabre four door hardtop powered by a 455 (later sold to FlyBrian) and an LT1 powered '94 Roadmaster Estate, now also long sold. While I loved my LT1 powered Estate I always wanted a steel roof sedan, esp. in a dark color, green, burgundy, black or gun-metal gray... Well last night I bougt (for $hort money even by my standards) a steel roof sedan. It's a 1992 M.Y. so NO, it's not the super desirable LT1 but who cares? It's still got a 5.7 liter V8, RWD and a slew of luxury. There's no such thing as a bad SBC 350. And there's no such thing as a bad '91-'96 B-body. Here's a few photos:

I'm currently working on a plan where I could fill up my tank with little cute bunnies and kitty cats and they would some how burn off as nuclear waste, gasseous asbestos & radon. Just to piss of Peta. (I'm really an animal lover spare me the hate mail)

How's the Chocolate LeSabre? Driving it much?

God Speed in your Monte Carlo adventures! I hope you live to be a hundred... and ten.

Yup! My campaign slogan will be: Keep your V8, trade in your gas station.

Great minds think alike. I originally got this idea a few years back when I watched the movie Gatica... (fantastic flick BTW) There's a slew of classic cars in the movie, but they are all converted to (what sounds like) electric power. This past summer I remember telling my buddy who thinks the B-59s milage is atrocious that someday when his Ford Ranger is a recycled soup can I'll be running my car on recycled apple cores & moonshine, untill a commercially available source of fuel comes about for the ICE. I think this is a very safe prediction. Good thinkning Camino.

Agreeed... It's a "Cimarr0n Estate"

I hear you about a Zeta wagon WMJ.... The only LT-1 powered B-body I've owned thus far was a Roadmaster Estate, and the only station wagon I've owned was an LT-1 powered B-body.... So obviously I've got GREAT experiences with wagons.

All I want to know is when will GM come to its senses and produce the SIXTEEN, there's NO reason it shouldn't be, esp. with D.O.D. V-12 are for lame Italian cars...

If I still cared, I'd go yellow all the way!

The fat lady has not sung, the show is not over...

Yup, that's the car show where I met the Vietnam Vet who sold me my '64 Oldsmobile Super-88 Holiday (four door hardtop) It was cool to see all those Oldsmobiles under that big Rocket logo sign. There's also a derelict, semi-abandoned Plymouth dealer in western Mass that still has big Mopar & Plymouth insignia all over the sign & building. Some town I passed through on business a couple years ago...

I'm still excited that this car is coming out but since I want neither the two-door sedan or convertible I'm probably never going to buy one new... all these compromises with new cars just make me want to buy & fix up all the old stuff that was born of inspiration & art, not focus groups, safety nazis & plastic puke like most modern cars.

I would never spend that kind of money (auction is at $9600 right now) for an '80s car with a blue cloth interior... as nice as is it. For almost 10K I'd get a '59-'62 Coupe deVille Hardtop in yellow with a white interior or perhaps an Imperial from the same era, with a white interior and only in a hardtop bodystyle.

It's obnoxious, the Koreans often times try to sell by being obnoxious... that's... well, OBNOXIOUS. Still people are stupid enough to buy their crap!

Prius & CR-V suprise me.... Amazing that Silverado came in #2 and Sierra #11, that's a lot of trcks.

I wish I was still excited about the Camaro. Truth be told I'm quite apathetic ever since I founf out the rear 1/4 window will be glued in just like in every other cheap-modern "coupe"... The hope of an affordable hardtop was like 60% of the reason why I was excited about this car's arrival. I'm still glad the future-retro styling made it.