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    Frankfurt 2017: 2019 Porsche Cayenne Turbo Adds More Spice

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    It was only a few weeks ago when Porsche introduced the third-generation Cayenne. We knew there would more powertrains coming down the road. So we were a bit surprised that at the Frankfurt Motor Show, Porsche unveiled the high-performance Cayenne Turbo.

    Under the hood is the same engine you'll find in the Panamera Turbo; a twin-turbo 4.0L V8 offering up 550 horsepower and 567 pound-feet of torque. This comes paired with an eight-speed automatic and all-wheel drive. Porsche quotes a 0-60 mph time of 3.9 seconds (3.7 seconds if you add the Sport Chrono package). Top speed stands at 177 mph. The chassis features a three-chamber air suspension system, Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control roll stabilization (with a 48-Volt electrical system), and rear-wheel steering.

    Outside, the Cayenne Turbo bares its aggression with larger air inlets, 21-inch alloy wheels wrapped in meaty tires, and a set of quad exhaust tips.

    The 2019 Cayenne Turbo will set you back $125,650 with destination. Porsche dealers will begin taking orders later this year, with deliveries taking place next fall.

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    The new 2019 Porsche Cayenne Turbo

    • New top model in the Cayenne line with 550 hp, active aerodynamics and high performance brakes
    • 4.0L twin-turbo V8 makes 550 hp, 567 lb-ft of torque
    • Quicker and faster than previous generation Cayenne Turbo S
    • Zero to 60 mph in 3.7 seconds (with optional Sport Chrono Package)
    • Top track speed of 177 mph
    • Significantly enhanced standard equipment over previous Cayenne Turbo
    • MSRP of $124,600 excluding processing and delivery fee of $1,050
    • Expected to arrive at dealerships in Fall 2018

    Atlanta, Georgia. The 2019 Porsche Cayenne Turbo took its place at the top of the model line at the 67th Frankfurt International Motor Show. The new model from the third-generation Cayenne range is once again raising the bar for sporty performance in the segment. Its twin-turbo four-liter V8 engine delivers 550 hp. The combination of innovations including a three-chamber air suspension, staggered tire sizes and new high-performance Porsche Surface Coated Brake (PSCB) technology result in improved driving dynamics. With additional options, such as rear-axle steering and electric roll stabilization with a 48-volt system, the SUV achieves the driving characteristics of a sports car. The new Cayenne Turbo accelerates from zero to 60 mph in as little as 3.7 seconds when equipped with the optional Sport Chrono Package toward a top track speed of 177 mph, representing gains over the previous-generation Cayenne Turbo S.

    With an exclusive front end and the LED main headlights of the Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS), the Cayenne Turbo has a dominant appearance. At night, the new Turbo sets itself apart from other Cayenne models with its double-row front light modules. Widened wheel arches with painted trim and special 21-inch wheels reserved for the Cayenne Turbo characterize the side view. Turbo-specific twin tailpipes distinguish this model from its six-cylinder siblings.

    Interior design elements including the center-mounted grab handles continue in the third-generation Cayenne Turbo. Like other members of the new Cayenne family the newest model features the Porsche Advanced Cockpit, which includes a high-definition 12.3-inch screen in the dashboard and an analog tachometer flanked by two seven-inch full-HD screens. Virtually all of the vehicle functions can be displayed and operated using the high-resolution display and touchscreen of the Porsche Advanced Cockpit. Among them, for example, is the standard 710-watt BOSE® Surround Sound System. Other equipment newly included by default in the latest Cayenne Turbo includes 18-way sport seats, seatbacks with integrated headrests, and standard heating functions for all outboard seats as well as the steering wheel.

    Greater power, greater torque: twin-turbo V8 with 550 hp
    At the heart of the Cayenne Turbo is the twin-turbo four-liter V8 with 550 hp and 567 lb-ft of peak torque (increases of 30 hp and 14 lb-ft versus the previous Cayenne Turbo). Standard Porsche Traction Management (PTM) all-wheel drive works with the new eight-speed Tiptronic S automatic transmission to improve acceleration, speed, and highway cruising comfort. The new Cayenne Turbo exceeds the previous Cayenne Turbo S in many areas. For example, it sprints to 60 mph in 3.9 seconds (or 3.7 seconds when equipped with the optional Sport Chrono Package, 0.1 second quicker than the previous Cayenne Turbo S) and boasts a higher top track speed of 177 mph. The turbochargers are arranged inside the cylinder V, in a "central turbo layout." The shortened exhaust paths between the combustion chambers and the turbochargers improve engine responsiveness and power delivery. This setup also creates a more compact package that is advantageous because it allows for a lower engine installation that helps to lower the center of gravity for improved handling characteristics.

    Active chassis with three-chamber air suspension and staggered tires 
    The new lightweight chassis of the Cayenne Turbo helps improve driving dynamics versus its predecessor. In particular, the combination of a new three-chamber air suspension with the Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) active shock-absorbers extends the range considerably. By using three air chambers per spring strut, the chassis is able to map a wider range of spring rates than the previous system could, allowing for improvements in both comfort- and performance-focused settings.

    With six selectable height levels, the ground clearance can be manually adjusted to suit the off-road terrain. These are also actively controlled via five new driving programs for on- and off-road use. The default setting is the on-road program. Four other modes activate the conditioning for mild off-road terrain: Mud, Gravel, Sand, or Rocks. The drive mode, chassis settings, and differential locks can be selected to adapt to the relevant setting.

    Complemented by optional rear-axle steering, electric Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) roll stabilization connected to a 48-volt vehicle electrical system and Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV+), the new Cayenne Turbo achieves impressive driving dynamics. Sports car performance is an even greater emphasis in the new Cayenne than past models. Accordingly, the front and rear wheel sizes are staggered to measure 285/40 at the front and 315/35 at the rear. This produces even greater longitudinal and lateral power application for agile handing.

    New Cayenne Turbo gets active aero and Porsche Surface Coated Brakes
    The new Cayenne Turbo integrates an adaptive roof spoiler as a component of its active aerodynamics. Depending on the position, this optimizes efficiency, increases downforce on the rear axle, or shortens braking distances from higher speeds in the airbrake position. At full braking from 155 mph, the Cayenne Turbo comes to a stop up to 79 inches earlier as a result. The aerodynamic system therefore complements the effect of the new high-performance Porsche Surface Coated Brake (PSCB) which is included as standard with the Cayenne Turbo. The tungsten carbide layer applied to the cast-iron discs increases braking performance and wear resistance while reducing the amount of brake dust at the same time, meaning less dirt on the rims. The Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake system (PCCB) is still available as the top-performing option.

    The new 2019 Cayenne Turbo will be available for ordering in the U.S. market in December, 2017 with arrival at dealers in Fall 2018. MSRP is $124,600 excluding $1,050 for delivery, and processing.

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    Grant that I think the Interior is nice. Exterior is just so BLAND to me. Nothing about this excites me with the Design language.

    Hell you could put a Hyundai or Kia nameplate on the car and most people would not know it was actually a Porsche. 

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    At least someone is giving AMG  competition in SUVs.  I never was a Cayenne fan, always seemed to have odd styling to me.

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    This 3rd generation is definitely an improvement in the styling over the first two generations...esp. like the rear.   Like the interior. 

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    32 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    At least someone is giving AMG  competition in SUVs.  I never was a Cayenne fan, always seemed to have odd styling to me.

    Yeah, just ignore this entirely, all 707 HP of it.

     

     

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    1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

    At least someone is giving AMG  competition in SUVs.  I never was a Cayenne fan, always seemed to have odd styling to me.

     

    40 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Yeah, just ignore this entirely, all 707 HP of it.

     

     

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    So very true as AMG is scared of the Track Hawk, All 707 HP!

    American Muscle baby SUV Style! :metal: 

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    Bring it on, I'll put a Mercedes interior next to Jeep any day.  I imagine a new X5 M should show up in a couple years, and Land Rover has their SVR's so there is some competition for performance utility.   All the profits from that Grand Cherokee Trackhawk go back to Italy so Sergio can make more Alfas.   Just so he can spin Alfa off as it's own company and take his golden parachute.  

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    Really digging this thing. Obscene as they are, these, the X5M, the SRT GC's, the AMG's, the RR SVR's, etc are all insanely cool to me. 

    Would make a killer DD.

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    20 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    Bring it on, I'll put a Mercedes interior next to Jeep any day.  I imagine a new X5 M should show up in a couple years, and Land Rover has their SVR's so there is some competition for performance utility.   All the profits from that Grand Cherokee Trackhawk go back to Italy so Sergio can make more Alfas.   Just so he can spin Alfa off as it's own company and take his golden parachute.  

    Who gives two $h!s where the profits go? Do Daimler profits go anywhere else but Germany? Did they when they owned Chrysler? No. Furthermore, the difference in interiors is reflected in the difference in price. Point here is that you said that Benz finally gets competition for the performance SUV crowd when it was already there. Don't move the bar, yet again, to some BS about interiors and profits when that was not reflected in your original statement. And I quote,

    "At least someone is giving AMG  competition in SUVs."

     

     

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    20 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    Bring it on, I'll put a Mercedes interior next to Jeep any day.  I imagine a new X5 M should show up in a couple years, and Land Rover has their SVR's so there is some competition for performance utility.   All the profits from that Grand Cherokee Trackhawk go back to Italy so Sergio can make more Alfas.   Just so he can spin Alfa off as it's own company and take his golden parachute.  

    You might want to hold off blowing your MB Horn till you actually sit in a Trackhawk. The interior is very nice. MB is equal to it but other than the overblown S line, AMG is only on par.

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    1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

    $100k for an optioned up Trackhawk, and no FCA car has an interior worth $100k, not even the Maseratis.  

    It is $85,900 (staring price) and you do not know for a fact what it's interior is worth and much like the other thread, many cars (including Mercedes) do not have interiors worth the price tag of their cars. You definitely don't know what an optioned out Trackhawk is like so again, just more trolling by you. Do you think an optioned out Cayenne has an interior worth damn near $140K (and that is leaving off some options on their website) for the GTS model? The simple answer to that is "hell no".

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    32 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    It is $85,900 (staring price) and you do not know for a fact what it's interior is worth and much like the other thread, many cars (including Mercedes) do not have interiors worth the price tag of their cars. You definitely don't know what an optioned out Trackhawk is like so again, just more trolling by you. Do you think an optioned out Cayenne has an interior worth damn near $140K (and that is leaving off some options on their website) for the GTS model? The simple answer to that is "hell no".

    The 707 hp will make it worth the price of admission.  

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    11 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    The 707 hp will make it worth the price of admission.  

    Then why bring up the interior? It is clear that this can compete with the AMG SUVs, despite your earlier claim that no one had until the Cayenne and until you have actually sat in one, further remarks about its interior are just short sighted and just outright trolling. 

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    2 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Then why bring up the interior? It is clear that this can compete with the AMG SUVs, despite your earlier claim that no one had until the Cayenne and until you have actually sat in one, further remarks about its interior are just short sighted and just outright trolling. 

    There is the X5 M and X6 M also, Range Rover SVR, Alfa Romeo Stelvio, etc.   But I feel like Porsche is Mercedes biggest competitor in performance SUVs.  Until BMW gets an X3 M and X7 M anyway.

    Porsche buyers don't care if it costs $140,000 they care that they can get leather  wrapped AC vents and illuminated "Turbo S" door sills.  And carbon fiber engine covers, got to have those.  If there isn't a carbon fiber rear wiper blade option on the Cayenne, Porsche better add that, they are leaving $900 on the table without that.

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    Audi is in there also with the SQ5, and the SQ7 is coming.. the performance SUV market is pretty crowded. 

    GM needs something in the performance SUV space, an Escalade V-series and Tahoe and Suburban ZL1 versions would be interesting...and something from GMC.

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    19 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    There is the X5 M and X6 M also, Range Rover SVR, Alfa Romeo Stelvio, etc.   But I feel like Porsche is Mercedes biggest competitor in performance SUVs.  Until BMW gets an X3 M and X7 M anyway.

    Porsche buyers don't care if it costs $140,000 they care that they can get leather  wrapped AC vents and illuminated "Turbo S" door sills.  And carbon fiber engine covers, got to have those.  If there isn't a carbon fiber rear wiper blade option on the Cayenne, Porsche better add that, they are leaving $900 on the table without that.

    Porsches buyers not caring is not the point of my statement and you know it. Actually read what I said instead of what you think I said before your next bar move. A $140K Cayenne interior shows very little distinction from a $70K Cayenne and the same applies for Mercedes but yet you (once again) only levy that criticism towards a domestic make. 

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      As Tested Price: $43,115 (Includes $925.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      Driver Confidence Package #2: $1,690.00
      Sights and Sounds Package: $945.00
      Appearance Package: $485.00
    • By Drew Dowdell
      Quarterly:
      Ford Motor Company - Not Reported
      General Motors Co. - Not Reported
      Tesla - Not Reported
      FCA US LLC - Not Reported
      Monthly:
      Audi of America -  Up 0.8% for the month, Down 5% for the year
      BMW of North America -  Down 1.7% for the month, Down 1.2% for the year
      Genesis Motor America - Not Reported
      Honda Motor Co. -  Up 1.9% for the month, Down 0.9% for the year
      Hyundai Motor America -  Up 12.13% for the month, Up 3.10% for the year
      Infiniti USA - Down 11.2% for the month, Down 12.5% for the year
      Jaguar Land Rover North America - Up 5% for the month, Up 5% for the year
      Kia Motors America - Up 0.6% for the month, Up 3.3% for the year
      Mazda North American Operations - Down 3.5%  for the month, Down 13.9% for the year
      Mercedes-Benz USA - 19.5% for the month, Down 4.0% for the year
      Mitsubishi Motors North America -  Down 13.4% for the month, Up 3.2% for the year
      Nissan Group - Down 9.1% for the month, Down 8.3% for the year
      Porsche Cars North America Inc. -  Up 23.3% for the month, Up 5.3% for the year
      Subaru of America, Inc. - Up 7.9% for the month, Up 5.6% for the year
      Toyota Motor North America - Up 0.2% for the month, Down 2.6% for the year
      Volkswagen of America -  Up 2.2% for the month, Up 6.1% for the year
      Volvo Cars of North America, LLC - Up 2.0% for the month, Up 4.7% for the year

      Brands (Quarterly):
      Alfa Romeo - Not Reported
      Buick -  Not Reported
      Cadillac -  Not Reported
      Chevrolet - Not Reported
      Chrysler - Not Reported
      Dodge - Not Reported
      Ford - Not Reported
      Fiat - Not Reported
      GMC - Not Reported
      Jeep - Not Reported
      Lincoln - Not Reported
      Ram Trucks - Not Reported
      Tesla - Not Reported

      Brands (Monthly):
      Acura - Down 3.7% - 12,759 MTD / 86,526 YTD
      Audi - Down 0.3% - 19,409 MTD / 101,440 YTD
      BMW - Up 4.7% - 24,842 MTD / 199,865 YTD
      Genesis - Not reported
      Honda - Up 2.5% - 128,537 MTD / 831,765 YTD
      Hyundai - Up 12.3% - 57,340 MTD / 390,668 YTD
      Infiniti - Down 11.2% - 8,660 MTD / 71,718 YTD
      Jaguar - Up 7% - 2,020 MTD
      Kia - Up 0.6% - 53,405 MTD / 358,249 YTD
      Land Rover -  Up 4% - 6,456 MTD
      Lexus - Down 1.5% - 25,025 MTD  / 160,760 YTD
      Mazda - Down 3.5% - 23,292 MTD / 161,847 YTD
      Mercedes-Benz - Up 22.9% - 24,612 MTD / 172,008 YTD
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Down 1.5% 2,878 MTD / 18,903 YTD
      MINI - Down 34.2% - 2,827 MTD / 20,410 YTD
      Mitsubishi - Down 13.4% - 8,613 MTD / 79,710 YTD
      Nissan - Down 8.9% - 90,220 MTD / 744,198 YTD
      Porsche - Up 23.3% - 4,956 MTD / 35,213 YTD
      Smart - Down 45.6% - 56 MTD / 552 YTD
      Subaru - Up 7.9% - 64,106 MTD / 403,631 YTD
      Toyota - Up 0.4% - 184,179 MTD / 1,200,552 YTD
      Volkswagen - Up 2.2% - 31,188 MTD / 215,796 YTD
      Volvo - Up 2.0% - 8,795 MTD / 58,915 YTD

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    • By Drew Dowdell
      Quarterly:
      Ford Motor Company - Not Reported
      General Motors Co. - Not Reported
      Tesla - Not Reported
      FCA US LLC - Not Reported
      Monthly:
      Audi of America -  Up 0.8% for the month, Down 5% for the year
      BMW of North America -  Down 1.7% for the month, Down 1.2% for the year
      Genesis Motor America - Not Reported
      Honda Motor Co. -  Up 1.9% for the month, Down 0.9% for the year
      Hyundai Motor America -  Up 12.13% for the month, Up 3.10% for the year
      Infiniti USA - Down 11.2% for the month, Down 12.5% for the year
      Jaguar Land Rover North America - Up 5% for the month, Up 5% for the year
      Kia Motors America - Up 0.6% for the month, Up 3.3% for the year
      Mazda North American Operations - Down 3.5%  for the month, Down 13.9% for the year
      Mercedes-Benz USA - 19.5% for the month, Down 4.0% for the year
      Mitsubishi Motors North America -  Down 13.4% for the month, Up 3.2% for the year
      Nissan Group - Down 9.1% for the month, Down 8.3% for the year
      Porsche Cars North America Inc. -  Up 23.3% for the month, Up 5.3% for the year
      Subaru of America, Inc. - Up 7.9% for the month, Up 5.6% for the year
      Toyota Motor North America - Up 0.2% for the month, Down 2.6% for the year
      Volkswagen of America -  Up 2.2% for the month, Up 6.1% for the year
      Volvo Cars of North America, LLC - Up 2.0% for the month, Up 4.7% for the year

      Brands (Quarterly):
      Alfa Romeo - Not Reported
      Buick -  Not Reported
      Cadillac -  Not Reported
      Chevrolet - Not Reported
      Chrysler - Not Reported
      Dodge - Not Reported
      Ford - Not Reported
      Fiat - Not Reported
      GMC - Not Reported
      Jeep - Not Reported
      Lincoln - Not Reported
      Ram Trucks - Not Reported
      Tesla - Not Reported

      Brands (Monthly):
      Acura - Down 3.7% - 12,759 MTD / 86,526 YTD
      Audi - Down 0.3% - 19,409 MTD / 101,440 YTD
      BMW - Up 4.7% - 24,842 MTD / 199,865 YTD
      Genesis - Not reported
      Honda - Up 2.5% - 128,537 MTD / 831,765 YTD
      Hyundai - Up 12.3% - 57,340 MTD / 390,668 YTD
      Infiniti - Down 11.2% - 8,660 MTD / 71,718 YTD
      Jaguar - Up 7% - 2,020 MTD
      Kia - Up 0.6% - 53,405 MTD / 358,249 YTD
      Land Rover -  Up 4% - 6,456 MTD
      Lexus - Down 1.5% - 25,025 MTD  / 160,760 YTD
      Mazda - Down 3.5% - 23,292 MTD / 161,847 YTD
      Mercedes-Benz - Up 22.9% - 24,612 MTD / 172,008 YTD
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Down 1.5% 2,878 MTD / 18,903 YTD
      MINI - Down 34.2% - 2,827 MTD / 20,410 YTD
      Mitsubishi - Down 13.4% - 8,613 MTD / 79,710 YTD
      Nissan - Down 8.9% - 90,220 MTD / 744,198 YTD
      Porsche - Up 23.3% - 4,956 MTD / 35,213 YTD
      Smart - Down 45.6% - 56 MTD / 552 YTD
      Subaru - Up 7.9% - 64,106 MTD / 403,631 YTD
      Toyota - Up 0.4% - 184,179 MTD / 1,200,552 YTD
      Volkswagen - Up 2.2% - 31,188 MTD / 215,796 YTD
      Volvo - Up 2.0% - 8,795 MTD / 58,915 YTD
    • By Drew Dowdell
      Atlanta, Georgia. Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), importer and distributor of the Porsche 911, 718 Boxster and Cayman, Panamera, Cayenne, and Macan model lines, today announced July retail sales rose 23.3 percent year-over-year to a new record for the month of 4,956 vehicles. In the period January through July, Porsche dealers delivered a total of 35,213 new cars, up 5.3 percent from a year ago.

      “The new generation Cayenne and refreshed Macan models are thrilling even more U.S. customers as the sports cars of the SUV market,” said Klaus Zellmer, President and CEO of PCNA. 

      Deliveries of the redesigned Cayenne quadrupled in July from a year ago, when the previous generation was selling out. Macan sales for July were up 8.8 percent compared to July 2018. Sales of the next generation 911 will commence shortly with the latest Porsche icon promising to once again set new standards in its segment.

      Porsche Approved Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) sales in the U.S. totaled 2,069
      vehicles in July, up 18.4 percent year-over-year.
       
       
      Model July Sales Year-to-Date 2019 2018 2019 2018 ALL 911 408 524 5,028 5,395 ALL 718 438 531 2,593 3,583 ALL PANAMERA 476 585 4,216 5,158 ALL CAYENNE 1,334 266 11,365 5,541 ALL MACAN 2,300 2,114 12,011 13,764 GRAND TOTALS 4,956 4,020 35,213 33,441
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