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    New York 2018: 2019 Cadillac XT4 Kicks Off A Product Renaissance

      Finally a new product from Cadillac!


    The 2019 Cadillac XT4 is an important vehicle for the brand for a number of reasons. It's the first vehicle part of a major product offensive by Cadillac that will see them introduce a new/redesigned model almost every six months through 2021. It also gives Cadillac a contender in the growing small luxury crossover class.

    The overall design of the XT4 is very similar to the larger XT5 with sharp angles, large front grille, headlights that extend downward to the bumper, and taillights that run from the top of the tailgate to underneath the window. 18-inch wheels come standard, while larger 20-inch wheels are optional. The overall dimensions of the XT4 - 181.1-inch overall length, 109.4-inch wheelbase, 74.1-inches wide, and 64.1-inches tall - puts it between subcompact and compact crossovers.

    Inside, Cadillac went for a modern and clean look. An 8-inch touchscreen housing the Cadillac User Experience infotainment system is standard on XT4s. Like the CT6 refresh, the XT4 will have a rotary control knob to control the system. Cargo space measures out 22.5 cubic feet with the rear seats up and 48.9 cubic feet when folded.

    Powering all XT4s will be a turbocharged 2.0L four-cylinder with 237 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque. This will come paired with a nine-speed automatic and the choice of front or all-wheel drive. Cadillac estimates fuel economy figures of 25 City/30 Highway/27 Combined - we're assuming the numbers are for the front-wheel drive model.

    The suspension is comprised of a front strut and five-link rear setup. Sport models get the option of a Continuous Damping Control system that automatically adjusts the firmness based on a number of parameters.

    Pricing for the 2019 XT4 kicks off at $35,790 when it arrives at dealers this fall. Those interested can order an XT4 beginning at the end of this month.

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    Press Release is on Page 2


    Cadillac Introduces First-Ever XT4

    • All-new compact SUV delivers more for a new generation of luxury buyers

    At Cadillac House in Manhattan today, Cadillac unveiled the first-ever XT4, an all-new compact SUV tailored for the next generation of luxury customers.

    Developed on an exclusive compact SUV architecture, Cadillac’s entry in the industry’s fastest-growing luxury segment delivers expressive design, confident performance, spacious accommodations and new technologies.

    “The first-ever 2019 Cadillac XT4 expands our successful SUV lineup to a segment where Cadillac has never been before,” said Cadillac President Johan de Nysschen. “And it sets off a dramatic expansion and elevation of the product range, that will see a new Cadillac virtually once every six months through 2021.”

    Simple and sculpted lines draw the customer in and accentuate the XT4’s powerful proportions and aggressive presence. The interior is the Cadillac design aesthetic distilled: the thoughtful and artistic integration of technology and appealing style. The cabin is exceptionally refined, with expected segment-leading rear-seat spaciousness.

    All models are driven by an all-new Cadillac 2.0L Turbo engine that features new efficiency-enhancing technologies including Active Fuel Management (cylinder deactivation), coupled with a nine-speed automatic transmission with next-generation Electronic Precision Shift.

    Cadillac also debuts its new global “Y” trim strategy on the XT4. Distinctive Premium Luxury and Sport models build from the well-equipped Luxury (base) trim. Specific content and styling cues tailor the Premium Luxury and Sport trims to different customer tastes and preferences.

    Cadillac will roll out this new trim strategy beginning with the XT4 and the 2019 CT6 top-of-range sedan.

    The XT4 will be priced starting at $35,790 including destination charge, excluding tax, title, license, dealer fees and optional equipment, when it goes on sale in fall 2018. Starting at the end of March 2018, customers will be able to preorder their XT4s from participating U.S. Cadillac dealers nationwide.

    Additional XT4 highlights include:

    • Cadillac user experience with all-new rotary controller
    • Smart chassis features including available twin-clutch, decoupling all-wheel drive
    • Available Active Sport Suspension featuring Continuous Damping Control and new electro-hydraulic braking assist

    STYLE WITH SUBSTANCE
    A team of young designers representing the heart of the XT4’s target customer demographic helmed the design, penning an expressive SUV that injects a higher degree of sculpture into Cadillac’s lineup — and today’s vehicle is very close to their original visions for the exterior and interior.

    “The XT4 has a great presence that is confident and poised,” said Therese Pinazzo, exterior design manager. “It exudes Cadillac’s DNA, but with a new boldness that speaks to the youthfulness of its team and its customers.”

    In keeping with Cadillac’s new “Y” trim strategy, the Luxury, Premium Luxury and Sport models offer distinctive styling cues and trim finishes to create unique personas and greater choice for customers. XT4 Sport models feature a gloss black mesh grille inspired by Cadillac’s high-performance V-Series models, gloss black window moldings and specific Sport alloy wheel choices. Luxury and Premium Luxury models feature grilles with bright metallic accents, satin aluminum window moldings and satin chrome-accented door handles.

    All models feature advanced LED lighting technology front and rear, with front LED low and high beams and an LED-illuminated light blade for the daytime running lamps. Cadillac’s vertical L-shaped lighting signature is stretched horizontally, emphasizing the XT4’s width and confident stance.

    Standard LED taillights are housed in traditional red lenses on Luxury and Premium Luxury, while the Sport model receives tinted neutral-density (clear) lenses that complement the generally darker exterior color choices.

    Eight exterior colors will be offered on the 2019 XT4 at launch: Atlantic Metallic, Autumn Metallic, Crystal White Tricoat, Twilight Blue Metallic, Shadow Metallic, Red Horizon Tintcoat, Stellar Black Metallic and Radiant Silver Metallic.

    BOLD, REFINED AND SPACIOUS CABIN
    Echoing the exterior design themes, the new XT4’s cabin conveys boldness and strength with youthful athleticism. Sweeping arcs and tapered lines enhance the feeling of spaciousness and give it a taut, tightly wrapped appearance.

    The interior elements come together in a sophisticated and modern design. Intuitive technology includes available next-generation wireless device charging and an in-cabin air ionizer.

    “With the XT4’s interior, we distilled Cadillac to its essence,” said Phillip Kucera, Interior Design manager. “We’ve been able to be simpler and bolder than we have ever been before, giving the SUV attitude and a sporty connotation.”

    The all-new XT4 offers exceptional space for a compact luxury SUV, particularly for rear-seat passengers. It is expected to lead the segment in rear-seat roominess, with 39.5 inches (1,004 mm) of legroom. The XT4 also offers 48.9 cubic feet (1,385 liters) of maximum cargo volume with the rear seat folded.

    "The XT4 was envisioned holistically to deliver a dynamic sporty exterior without compromising comfort and functionality for passengers,” said Cadillac Exterior Design Director Jim Fleming, who helped create the vehicle’s architecture.

    “It’s a great balance that delivers style and comfort on long drives such as a weekend getaway to a favorite ski slope, while still offering excellent cargo room for that ski trip’s gear.”

    Additional interior features and highlights include:

    • The thick, three-spoke, leather-wrapped steering wheel is all new and was developed to enhance the sporty feel of the vehicle while maintaining driver comfort on long drives.
    • Sport-inspired seating with prominent seat-bottom and seatback bolsters balances comfort with the kind of support typically found in sports sedans. A massage feature is available.
    • Available white ambient lighting casts a sophisticated glow and highlights important features.
    • Technology integration includes Cadillac’s first rotary controller for the Cadillac user experience and other vehicle features (see below for more information), along with streamlined vehicle controls for easier, more intuitive use.

    At launch, the 2019 XT4 will be offered in seven interior environments, based on Luxury, Premium Luxury or Sport trims:

    • XT4 Luxury — Light Platinum/Jet Black with Aluminum Metallized decor trim
    • XT4 Premium Luxury — Jet Black with Diamond-Cut Aluminum, Light Platinum/Jet Black with Linear Galaxy High-Gloss Wood, Sedona/Jet Black with Fineline Calico High-Gloss Wood
    • XT4 Sport — Jet Black with Cinnamon Accents with Twenty-Two High-Gloss Carbon Fiber, Light Wheat/Jet Black with Red Accents and Morello Red High-Gloss Carbon Fiber, Sedona/Jet Black with Fineline Calico High-Gloss Wood

    INTUITIVE TECHNOLOGIES 
    Led by the latest Cadillac user experience, the brand’s most advanced infotainment interface, the XT4 offers a connected environment.

    The Cadillac user experience is a dynamic platform that offers a smartphone-like experience with an intuitive interface, faster response and improved voice recognition that can be updated over time to meet a customer’s evolving connectivity needs. It leverages the cloud and available embedded 4G LTE connection to enable personalization, available connected navigation and news, marketplace and entertainment applications via the app store and a new rotary controller that offers users alternative ways to interact with the system.

    The new controller includes volume and seek forward/back controls for the audio system; shortcut buttons for fast access to the most frequently used apps such as Audio, Phone, Navigation (if available) and Home; and a large center dial to operate primary features of the most frequently used apps, scroll menus and lists and select other apps to be displayed.

    Additional XT4 technologies include:

    • The 8-inch diagonal Cadillac user experience interface screen has 768p HD resolution
    • Near-Field Communication, a Cadillac-first integration, greatly improves the process of pairing a phone (if compatible) with Cadillac user experience.
    • Next-generation, 15-watt wireless charging is available and offers faster charging timesi .
    • There are four standard USB Ports and three 12-volt accessory power outletsii. Models equipped with the available navigation radio also receive an SD memory card reader in the center console.
    • The full suite of active safety features includes Surround Vision and second-generation Rear Camera Mirror (available)iii.

    XT4 DRIVING DYNAMICS
    The new Cadillac XT4’s confident, athletic appearance is complemented by great agility. It is characteristically Cadillac in refinement and responsiveness, but with a youthful edginess derived from the brand’s critically acclaimed sports sedans.

    It starts with an all-new Cadillac 2.0L Turbo engine. This advanced, power-dense inline-four-cylinder — 118.5 hp per liter — features an industry-first tripower system. The system is designed to optimize performance and efficiency by having three distinct operating modes, including high and low valve lift and Active Fuel Management (cylinder deactivation).

    The engine also features a twin-scroll turbocharger to enhance torque production at lower speeds, as well as direct injection, active thermal management and stop/start technologies. Output is SAE-certified at 237 hp (177 kW) and 258 lb-ft of torque (350 Nm). A nearly flat torque curve gives the XT4 surprising responsiveness throughout the engine’s RPM range.

    A nine-speed automatic transmission is paired with the new engine, helping the XT4 achieve a Cadillac-estimated 30 mpg in highway drivingiv. The vehicle also features the next generation of electronic precision shift, which features an intuitive shifting sequence.

    When it comes to channeling the XT4’s power to the pavement, a strut-type front suspension and five-link independent rear suspension are tuned to balance refinement with responsiveness. The standard Driver Select Mode allows that tuning to be adjusted on demand for different driving styles and road conditions.

    A twin-clutch all-wheel-drive system is available and offers the convenience of decoupling entirely from the rear wheels when the driver chooses, eliminating drivetrain friction.

    XT4 Sport’s available Active Sport Suspension features Continuous Damping Control and takes driving dynamics and control to a higher threshold, using electronic sensors to monitor the road in real time and making damping adjustments every 2 milliseconds.

    The XT4 is also the first Cadillac to introduce electro-hydraulic braking assist, which supplants the traditional vacuum-assisted power braking system with an electro-hydraulic system that enhances fuel economy and takes up less space under the hood.

    KEY STANDARD AND AVAILABLE FEATURES (Premium Luxury and Sport content is in addition to or in place of Luxury content)

    XT4 LUXURY

    XT4 PREMIUM LUXURY

    XT4 SPORT

    STANDARD

    STANDARD

    STANDARD

    18-in.  10-spoke alloy wheels with Bright Silver finish
    LED headlamps and taillamps
    Satin aluminum side glass moldings
    Leatherette trim
    8-way driver/6-way passenger power front seats
    Aluminum metallized interior decor
    Rotary controller
    Rear Park Assistiii
    Teen Driveriii
    Cadillac user experience
    Four USB ports
    60/40-split rear seat
    Dual-zone automatic climate control
    Adaptive Remote Start

    18-inch 10-spoke wheels with Pearl Nickel finish
    Illuminated door handles with satin chrome accents
    Front and Rear Park Assistiii
    Power-folding outside mirrors
    Satin aluminum finish on roof rails
    Leather seat surfaces
    Ambient lighting
    Wood or aluminum interior décor
    Lane Change Alert with Side Blind Zone Alertiii
    Rear Cross Traffic Alertiii
    Safety Alert Seatiii
    Auto-dimming inside mirror
    Driver’s seat memory
    Power liftgate

    18-inch 10-spoke alloy wheels with Diamond Cut/Argent Metallic finish
    LED front turn signal and cornering lamps
    Tinted neutral-density taillamp lenses
    Gloss Black finish on the front grille, side glass moldings and roof rails
    Body-color door handles
    Front and Rear Park Assistiii
    Power-folding outside mirrors
    Leatherette trim with sport accents
    Ambient lighting
    Carbon fiber or wood interior décor
    Sport steering wheel and pedals
    Lane Change Alert with Side Blind Zone Alertiii
    Rear Cross Traffic Alertiii
    Safety Alert Seatiii
    Auto-dimming inside mirror
    Driver’s seat memory
    Power liftgate

    AVAILABLE

    AVAILABLE

    AVAILABLE

    Sunroof and roof rails
    Trailering package
    All-wheel drive
    Navigation radio and Bose audio system
    Cold weather package

    Sunroof
    Trailering package
    All-wheel drive
    Navigation radio and Bose audio system
    Cold weather package
    Comfort and Convenience package
    20-inch Luxury wheels
    Driver Awareness Package
    Visibility Package
    Driver Assist Package
    Technology Package

    Sunroof
    Trailering package
    All-wheel drive
    Navigation radio and Bose audio system
    Cold weather package
    Comfort and Convenience package
    20-inch Sport wheels
    Driver Awareness Package
    Visibility Package
    Driver Assist Package
    Technology Package
    Active Sport Suspension with Continuous Damping Control

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    2019 CADILLAC XT4 PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS 
    (North American specs, as of time of publication)

    OVERVIEW

    Model

    2019 Cadillac XT4

    Body Style

    5 door, 5 passenger compact luxury SUV

    Manufacturing location

    Fairfax Assembly, Kansas City, Kansas

     

    EXTERIOR

    Wheelbase (in / mm)

    109.4 / 2779

    Overall length (in / mm)

    181.1 / 4599

    Overall width (in / mm)

    74.1 / 1881 (excluding outside rearview mirrors)

    Overall height (in / mm)

    64.1 / 1627 (including roof rails)

    Turning circle (feet)

    38.0

    Ground clearance (in / mm)

    6.7 / 171

     

    INTERIOR DIMENSIONS & CARGO VOLUME

    Seating capacity (front / rear)

    2 / 3

    Headroom
    (in / mm)

    39.4 / 1000 (front)
    38.3 / 973 (rear)

    Legroom
    (in. / mm)

    40.4 / 1026 (front)
    44.1 / 1121 (front, maximum)
    39.5 / 1004 (rear)

    Cargo volume (cu ft)

    22.5 (behind 1st row)
    48.9 (behind 2nd row)

     

    WEIGHTS & CAPACITIES

    Curb weight (lbs / kg)

    3660 / 1660 (FWD Luxury – est.)

    Max. towing capacity (lbs)

    3500 (with available towing package)

     

    CADILLAC-ESTIMATED FUEL ECONOMY

    City

    25 mpg

    Highway

    30 mpg

    Combined

    27 mpg

     

    ENGINE

    Type:

    2.0L Turbocharged I4 DOHC with Active Fuel Management, direct injection and stop/start

    Bore and stroke       (in. / mm):

    3.26 x 3.63 / 83 x 92.3

    Block material:

    Cast aluminum

    Cylinder head material:

    Cast aluminum

    Valvetrain:

    Dual overhead camshafts, four valves per cylinder with tripower system

    Fuel delivery:

    Direct injection with electronic throttle control

    Horsepower             (hp / kW @ rpm):

    237 / 177 @ 5000 (SAE cert.)

    Torque
    (lb.-ft. / Nm):

    258 / 350 @ 1500-4000 (SAE cert.)

     

    TRANSMISSION

    Type:

    Hydra-Matic 9T50 nine-speed electronically controlled automatic

     

    CHASSIS & SUSPENSION

    Front Suspension:

    MacPherson strut with coil-over spring; direct-acting stabilizer bar. Active Sport Suspension with Continuous Damping Control (avail. on Sport)

    Rear Suspension:

    Five-link independent with coil springs and fully isolated cradle

    Steering Type:

    Electric variable-assist power rack-and-pinion

    Brake Type:

    Four-wheel disc with ABS; electro-hydraulic assist

    Wheel Size:

    18-in. alloy (std.)
    20-in. alloy (avail.)

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    Not trying to back track again but... I do think smk is somewhat right about the JGC engines. I think they could perform quite a bit better with a turbo 4 and twin turbo 6. We all want V8 noises but the 5.7 really isn't anything other than a good noise maker compared to a TTv6. Keep the v8 or n/a v6 for those afraid of modern things. 

    They could have a 275hp/300tq turbo 4 and a 375hp/400-425tq twin turbo v6. 

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    4 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    No one cares. Cadillac is going to sell the crap out of these. It will probably become their highest volume vehicle just like the Encore did for Buick.  This really is the next step up in luxury for Encore or GLA drivers who want only slightly larger than their current car.

    No one is going to bring a measuring tape with them. You are lying about this being related to Equinox, it is related to Regal.

    The GLA can't take a V6, but this XT4 can. 

    I don't think they will sell the crap out of it, I think the low price leases will move some metal, but there is little profit to be made on stuff that that, this thing leases cheaper than the CLA which everyone here said was a drain on Mercedes.  And the GLA has a 375 hp option, I think getting bumped to 400 hp, that is more than enough in a vehicle that size.  

    I think the XT4's size is a plus, there are times I see a Rav4 or Audi Q5 and think they look pretty big, even these small SUVs are getting big, and not everyone wants more size if they do 95% of their driving alone.  I see the XT4 selling more in the 2500 per month range, similar to what the MKC does, I don't know if it is stand out enough to move 5,000 units a month like some of the strong sellers.

    There is a GLB coming in 2019 that will line up nicely with this XT4.  

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    43 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    I believe Mercedes-benz will have to react to the XT4 once they start losing sales of the GLA / GLC to Cadillac. :) 

    The GLB is a year away, it will size and price head on with the XT4, have similar hp in the base model.  But the GLB will have 300+ hp and 400+ hp AMG versions too.

    And ccap is right about the Jeep GC having a turbo.  Hell Turbo the Hemi for an SRT model, and still sell it, but selling a 360 hp V8 is lame.

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    58 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    I don't think they will sell the crap out of it, I think the low price leases will move some metal, but there is little profit to be made on stuff that that, this thing leases cheaper than the CLA which everyone here said was a drain on Mercedes.  And the GLA has a 375 hp option, I think getting bumped to 400 hp, that is more than enough in a vehicle that size.  

    I think the XT4's size is a plus, there are times I see a Rav4 or Audi Q5 and think they look pretty big, even these small SUVs are getting big, and not everyone wants more size if they do 95% of their driving alone.  I see the XT4 selling more in the 2500 per month range, similar to what the MKC does, I don't know if it is stand out enough to move 5,000 units a month like some of the strong sellers.

    There is a GLB coming in 2019 that will line up nicely with this XT4.  

    Cadillac is not done with the engine options on the XT4. I highly doubt you've sat in or been near the XT4 yet.  I have. 

    The lease prices you are seeing are pre-order discount pricing for the base model.  No one said the CLA would drain Mercedes.... we said it would devalue and cheapen the brand. It has.   Cadillac has a much superior product in just about every measure in the ATS. No. One. Cares. how big the ATS is compared to the CLA.  Any objective measuring between the two cars puts the ATS on top.  People who buy the CLA do it for the badge.  Even taking Cadillac out of the mix, there are better options from the other German brands. 

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    I think there will eventually be an amped up 2.0 turbo 4. Since this engine is all new they are starting with one state of tune. 

    Regarding the Chrysler v6. The new 3.6 in our Pacifica improved over what was already a good engine. Better power delivery. Better mpg. Better trans. Is way quicker. For a normal aspirated v6 it’s not bad. I do think fca could use a twin turbo six. But I wouldn’t replace the v6 with a turbo 4 in any of the larger fca products. 

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    8 minutes ago, regfootball said:

    I do think fca could use a twin turbo six. But I wouldn’t replace the v6 with a turbo 4 in any of the larger fca products. 

    Neither would I..I have no interest in a turbo 4..that's something for subcompacts and compacts, IMO...seems out of place in a 5000lb SUV.

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    3 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

     

    I would totally disagree with that. I grew up in a mixed household of auto's as every maker has their day of building a superior auto. The badge means nothing compared to the quality, comfort and what you like. In that regards, I have had asian brands and all the American brands and do not buy based on badge. 

    You have two types of buyers, badge snobs and those that are buying based on what they like, works for them, etc.

    That has clearly been shown here.

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    Badges often correlate to perception of quality and reliability... every brand has it's exceptions, but some have a reputation and image of quality and reliability more than others...

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    9 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Badges often correlate to perception of quality and reliability... every brand has it's exceptions, but some have a reputation and image of quality and reliability more than others...

    Guess I never got that Memo as I do not see that for BMW and MB with the number of them I see on the side of the roads needing help or on tow beds.

    Maybe it is my area where both brands to sell in large quantity to mostly asian badge snobs and as such you see them on the roads allot and broken down allot.

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    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

     

    Sometimes.... sometimes not.  There are certainly Honda humpers and Toyota Fanbois out there. I am personal friends with a Suzuki and Isuzu fanboy.  Don't get between a Saab fanboi and his 9-3 Aero.... you'll get hurt.

    The C-Class is a fantastic car, certainly in the top 3 in its segment to where the choice can come down to aesthetic preference. There might be a bit of badge snobbery, but for the C-Class you're not passing by better cars to get to it.

    The CLA/GLA is the exact opposite.  It has mediocre handling, terrible ride quality, interior quality well below its price class.  It is expensive for what you get. The GLA is $4k more than the exact same car you can get over at Infiniti and the QX30 is arguably better looking. So to pick the GLA, you have to be willing to pay $4,000 more for the same car just to get a 3-pointed star.  Now add into it that the X1/2 are out there, soon this XT4, the new RDX, the new Lexus UX (which isn't great, but still better than GLA) all at the same price point as the GLA and all are better cars.   So the number of better vehicles for less money you have to pass up to go buy a GLA is pretty significant.... the only reason I can see to buy a GLA is that one is after the badge or they have a friend who is a MB salesman. 

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    39 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    the only reason I can see to buy a GLA is that one is after the badge or they have a friend who is a MB salesman. 

    Or you just like the way it looks, which a lot of people buy based on. 

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    Just now, ccap41 said:

    Or you just like the way it looks, which a lot of people buy based on. 

    Eh... I might go with that if it was a decent looking vehicle, but the GLA is really bland and generic outside of its melon sized 3-point star on the front.  That's why I pointed out the QX30. At least it has some nice looks to it. 

     

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    3 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Cadillac is not done with the engine options on the XT4. I highly doubt you've sat in or been near the XT4 yet.  I have. 

    The lease prices you are seeing are pre-order discount pricing for the base model.  No one said the CLA would drain Mercedes.... we said it would devalue and cheapen the brand. It has.   Cadillac has a much superior product in just about every measure in the ATS. No. One. Cares. how big the ATS is compared to the CLA.  Any objective measuring between the two cars puts the ATS on top.  People who buy the CLA do it for the badge.  Even taking Cadillac out of the mix, there are better options from the other German brands. 

    The SRX/XT5 have been on sale since 2010 and no engine option has showed up yet, the 3.6 V6 has gone it alone for 8 years.  So I wouldn't hold my breath for options on the XT4.

    The ATS was also developed to go against the C-class and 3-series.  The CLA wasn't even on sale when the ATS went on sale.  So direct all those ATS comparisons to what the C-class brings to the table, which is as you say a fantastic car.

    The CLA/GLA are "below the line" or "below the bar" as Mike Tomlin would say.  That seems to be being addressed as all the FWD model Mercedes will be all in 2019 and the A-class interior looks good, has new infotainment, and revised powertrains.  Right now the XC40, and A3/Q3 are probably better products, but if Mercedes figured out how to make the C-E-S classes top of segment, I am sure they can do it one more time.

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    If you continue to lie and troll, I'm going to start issuing warning points

    The first gen SRX had the 3.6 and 4.6

    The second generation SRX had the 3.0 and 2.8TT and later the 3.0 and the 3.6 and later the upgraded 3.6

    The XT5 has been out about 2 years and is selling like gangbusters, what additional sales do you think it would gain to justify the investment of putting the 3.6TT from the XTS in there.  Show me the ROI, with numbers. I want to see your calculations.

    You also like to ignore history or make up your own

    The ATS was indeed designed to go up against the old 3-series and C-Class... but then those cars got big and fat while the ATS retained its lightest in class segment.  A C300 4matic weighs as much as a CT6 these days.  So when the C/3 gained weight, the ATS was left in the entry lux slot.  MB and BMW came around and put up FWD cars against the ATS.  Again, objectively, the ATS is a far better vehicle than the CLA AMG and BMW 2-series. Neither of those can come with a twin turbo V6 and neither of them can run with a C-Class or 3-series in handling like the ATS does.  The ATS, CLA, and 2-series all play in the same price class. The ATS has a bit more room, a lot more handling, better ride (than the CLA), and a substantially wider range of engine choices.  Somehow you see that as a disadvantage for Cadillac. 

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    The XC40 is probably the best in the segment at the moment, but it is tall and not very sporty driving.  I'm thinking the XT4 will take the spot as the sporty driving crossover once it comes out.  There is more engine information coming about XT4, I have that straight from a Cadillac rep's mouth. 

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    35 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    There's nothing wrong with its design though. It's clean and simple. 

    Yet that same clean and simple look for a Cadillac or pretty much any other brand besides Mercedes-benz causes a blaster of negative comments. 

    Clean and Simple to a point of being excessive BLAH, PASS. That look is on the same equal footing as the BLAH Camry of the 90's and early 2000's.

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    41 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    There's nothing wrong with its design though. It's clean and simple. 

    It's the face of a mid-size SUV tacked on to the body of a vehicle the size of my Encore

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    There is one thing I do like about the XT4 is that Cadillac is not doing any of that crossover coupe stupidity in instead the compromise they made for a sporty entry crossover is just a slightly shorter and lower priced alternative to the stupid X4 and GLC coupe...

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    4 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Neither would I..I have no interest in a turbo 4..that's something for subcompacts and compacts, IMO...seems out of place in a 5000lb SUV.

    yes there is definitely a tipping point on where you cut off the 4 and stay with a 6.  Ford Edge seems ok with the 2.0 turbo but I would never put a turbo four in a Grand Cherokee.

    why the XT4 will sell well in the compact class.....  \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

     

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    I know GM photography can be crap, but are they blacking out the floor in that picture to hide something, does this 2019 FWD based luxury CUV have a driveshaft hump?? I don't understand why so many still have a prominent one.

    Here is an RDX, it has a tiny one.

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    1 hour ago, frogger said:

    I know GM photography can be crap, but are they blacking out the floor in that picture to hide something, does this 2019 FWD based luxury CUV have a driveshaft hump?? I don't understand why so many still have a prominent one.

    Here is an RDX, it has a tiny one.

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    Well, the AWD versions have a driveshaft...and the exhaust runs through there also...

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    26 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Well, the AWD versions have a driveshaft...and the exhaust runs through there also...

    Yes, but on some platforms like the RDX they manage to keep a flat rear passenger floor regardless of AWD.   Since it is a new platform I'm guessing the next MDX will share it and also be flat back there.

    I'm pretty sure CRV, RAV4, Equinox/Envision/Terrain  rear floors are pretty flat too, so this is odd.

    https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2018/03/2019-Cadillac-XT4-rear-interior-seats-01.jpg

     

     

     

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    3 hours ago, frogger said:

    I know GM photography can be crap, but are they blacking out the floor in that picture to hide something, does this 2019 FWD based luxury CUV have a driveshaft hump?? I don't understand why so many still have a prominent one.

    Here is an RDX, it has a tiny one.

     

    i love me a good conspiracy theory but come to think  of it, it sounds like something GM would do..... LOL

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    15 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Yet that same clean and simple look for a Cadillac or pretty much any other brand besides Mercedes-benz causes a blaster of negative comments. 

    Clean and Simple to a point of being excessive BLAH, PASS. That look is on the same equal footing as the BLAH Camry of the 90's and early 2000's.

    I've never negatively commented on Caddy's design, At least not in the way you're talking about it. I like their A&S styling, for the most part.

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    14 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    I've never negatively commented on Caddy's design, At least not in the way you're talking about it. I like their A&S styling, for the most part.

    Yes, that is true, I am talking in the larger general sense to others that have bashed Cadillac about their style.

    I understand where you are coming from and appreciate that you like various styles from various vendors. :metal: 

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    2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    If they put a 3.0tt (total guess on my part), they would need a more robust drive shaft.

    That's a pretty good guess IMO.  I noticed the XT5 doesn't have a hump and has no performance version.

     

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    1 minute ago, frogger said:

    That's a pretty good guess IMO.  I noticed the XT5 doesn't have a hump and has no performance version.

     

    It's only a guess because the point that "the Epsilon platform can take a V6 but the Delta platform can't, that's why we didn't use Equinox" was driven home. 

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