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    Cadillac Announces XT5 Crossover To Debut At Dubai


    • Cadillac's XT5 Crossover To Debut At Dubai

    Cadillac announced today that the XT5 - replacement for the SRX crossover - will be making its worldwide debut at the Dubai Motor Show in November. Following this, the new Cadillac crossover will head to the LA Auto Show for its North American debut.

     

    "The XT5 will be the cornerstone of a series of crossovers bearing the 'XT' designation," the automaker said in a statement.

     

    The XT5 has some big shoes to fill as the SRX was Cadillac's most popular model sold worldwide. Previous reports has the SRX using a 2.0T four-cylinder and 3.6L V6 for power, and being available with front or all-wheel drive.

     

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    The cornerstone of front wheel drive.  Wooo Hooo!

     

    And your point is...?

    BMW X1, All of Audi's Crossovers, Mercedes-Benz GLA, Lexus NX and RX... Those happen to Front-wheel drive based as well.

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    The sub-compact GLA is front wheel drive, and obviously the least Mercedes of all the Mercedes is that makes any sense.  The GLC, GLE, GLS, and G-wagen are rear wheel drive.  80% of their crossover line still powers the correct wheels.  Lexus has zero performance credibility.

     

    If the XT5 is front drive, you know a Cruze based XT3 is coming, and will Cadillac want a Gamma platform XT1 to compete with the X1 and Q3 and GLA?  Probably, now you have 3 front drive crossovers at Cadillac, which would likely be most of the brand's volume, which sort of goes against Johan's claim of Rear Drive being the future of Cadillac.

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    The sub-compact GLA is front wheel drive, and obviously the least Mercedes of all the Mercedes is that makes any sense.  The GLC, GLE, GLS, and G-wagen are rear wheel drive.  80% of their crossover line still powers the correct wheels.  Lexus has zero performance credibility.

     

    If the XT5 is front drive, you know a Cruze based XT3 is coming, and will Cadillac want a Gamma platform XT1 to compete with the X1 and Q3 and GLA?  Probably, now you have 3 front drive crossovers at Cadillac, which would likely be most of the brand's volume, which sort of goes against Johan's claim of Rear Drive being the future of Cadillac.

    Its still a Mercedes with FWD, making your post just pure trolling. Think it will be the last FWD Mercedes? Not likely in this day and age. Mark my words.

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    The sub-compact GLA is front wheel drive, and obviously the least Mercedes of all the Mercedes is that makes any sense.  The GLC, GLE, GLS, and G-wagen are rear wheel drive.  80% of their crossover line still powers the correct wheels.  Lexus has zero performance credibility.

     

    If the XT5 is front drive, you know a Cruze based XT3 is coming, and will Cadillac want a Gamma platform XT1 to compete with the X1 and Q3 and GLA?  Probably, now you have 3 front drive crossovers at Cadillac, which would likely be most of the brand's volume, which sort of goes against Johan's claim of Rear Drive being the future of Cadillac.

    Its still a Mercedes with FWD, making your post just pure trolling. Think it will be the last FWD Mercedes? Not likely in this day and age. Mark my words.

     

    Mercedes only has one FWD platform, and it only fits small vehicles.  So only A or B segment cars will be front drive, and they pretty much have the hatchback, sedan, crossover and boxy people mover body styles covered already.  

     

    They have the MRA platform for C-class, 2017 E-class/CLS, and GLC, the S-class platform, the roadster platform, the GLE/GLS suv platform.  That is 4 rear drive platforms, not counting G-wagen.  So again over 80% of the platforms are rear drive, and they are moving to an inline six that won't fit in a front wheel drive car, so I would say Mercedes is pretty committed to rear drive.  The MFA platforms cars are a necessary evil in a sense to capture younger buyers and to meet fuel economy and emission requirements.

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    The sub-compact GLA is front wheel drive, and obviously the least Mercedes of all the Mercedes is that makes any sense.  The GLC, GLE, GLS, and G-wagen are rear wheel drive.  80% of their crossover line still powers the correct wheels.  Lexus has zero performance credibility.

     

    If the XT5 is front drive, you know a Cruze based XT3 is coming, and will Cadillac want a Gamma platform XT1 to compete with the X1 and Q3 and GLA?  Probably, now you have 3 front drive crossovers at Cadillac, which would likely be most of the brand's volume, which sort of goes against Johan's claim of Rear Drive being the future of Cadillac.

    Who says other than you always that the rear wheels are the correct wheels for driving an auto? As your halo brand moves to become more like Chevy and Toyota, you will find more and more FWD appliances in America mark my words. It will happen. Plus most people do not know or care about fwd or rwd.

     

    Only us auto nuts care and that is personal preference based on the type of auto.

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    The sub-compact GLA is front wheel drive, and obviously the least Mercedes of all the Mercedes is that makes any sense.  The GLC, GLE, GLS, and G-wagen are rear wheel drive.  80% of their crossover line still powers the correct wheels.  Lexus has zero performance credibility.

     

    I'm sure Lexus thinks long and hard about that when it deposits checks for RX350 payments.  

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    The sub-compact GLA is front wheel drive, and obviously the least Mercedes of all the Mercedes is that makes any sense.  The GLC, GLE, GLS, and G-wagen are rear wheel drive.  80% of their crossover line still powers the correct wheels.  Lexus has zero performance credibility.

     

    I'm sure Lexus thinks long and hard about that when it deposits checks for RX350 payments.  

     

    Well they are cashing in on the sheeple that think Toyota product lasts 300k miles without maintenance, and those soccer moms have no idea what drive wheels do what.  Cadillac is an underdog that is trying to climb up, "good enough" isn't going to get them to where they want to be.  Plus the RX sells at a much lower price than the X5 or GLE.   Which makes me think XT5 will be about $40k, so an XT3 has to be about $33k, if they follow the Lexus NX and RX or Lincoln MKC-MKX pricing models.

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    Are SUV's in this segment selling well? Yes.

    Are the companies selling them making a great profit? Yes.

    Is there anything that Anyone with a sound mind should be bitching about? No

    People like them and people buy them and usually load them up and make them a very high transaction price model. This is about making money isn't it?

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    For the record, I much prefer my vehicle's engines to send their power out back. But in the case of compact SUVs the ship appears to have sailed.

    But to see Benz and Bimmer throwing out FWD and transverse-engined CARS?...

    Wow. Maybe I should start calling them Acura-fighters.

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    Car and Driver once wrote "power is sent to the rear wheels, just as God intended."

     

    And Car & Driver has picked the Honda Accord and BMW 3-Series many times now for their 10 Best.

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    One problem with small and RWD, is horrible traction in rain and snow.  

    That's a simple function of less mass over the drive wheels, contributing to less friction for that traction.

    And considering how the majority of small CUV's sell minus the AWD option, that would then preclude many vehicles like these, purchased primarily for their utility rather than sport, to be saddled with the adverse effects and little benefit.

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    One problem with small and RWD, is horrible traction in rain and snow.  

    That's a simple function of less mass over the drive wheels, contributing to less friction for that traction.

    And considering how the majority of small CUV's sell minus the AWD option, that would then preclude many vehicles like these, purchased primarily for their utility rather than sport, to be saddled with the adverse effects and little benefit.

     

    I know, right?!  It's almost like most crossover buyers don't care about how quickly they can carve through the 'Ring on their way to work. 

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    One problem with small and RWD, is horrible traction in rain and snow.  

    That's a simple function of less mass over the drive wheels, contributing to less friction for that traction.

    And considering how the majority of small CUV's sell minus the AWD option, that would then preclude many vehicles like these, purchased primarily for their utility rather than sport, to be saddled with the adverse effects and little benefit.

     

    I know, right?!  It's almost like most crossover buyers don't care about how quickly they can carve through the 'Ring on their way to work. 

     

     

    Agreed, although....

     

    i'm trying to recall if the higher CG helps in that carving, or hinders?

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    Car and Driver once wrote "power is sent to the rear wheels, just as God intended."

    Of course a car enthusiast publication would say that. That does not change the fact that MB will have more FWD vehicles down the pipeline and that your average buyer doesn't care about the FWD vs. RWD, unless you live in snow country of course. Guess which one sells more there? Hint, it's not RWD cars. 

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    Ill tackle SMK this way!

     

    Damned right  FWD!!!

     

    GM and Cadillac have been doing THAT since the 1960s!!!

     

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    No biggie for Cadillac...

    Its just another day pumping out style...

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    Maybe the Corvette and CTS will move to front wheel drive since it doesn't matter. CTS can share the Malibu platform, think of the cost savings!

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    For the record, I much prefer my vehicle's engines to send their power out back. But in the case of compact SUVs the ship appears to have sailed.

    But to see Benz and Bimmer throwing out FWD and transverse-engined CARS?...

    Wow. Maybe I should start calling them Acura-fighters.

    It is all about the future. They all know they will have to cut weight and this is how they will do it. While not all of their cars will be FWD they have had to enter the segment to make sure they have their footing in 10 years from now.

    Also add to this while enthusiast are not FWD fans the fact is most people in the market want them. Too many believe that they can not get around in the winter or even heavy rain with out FWD. I think many forget how many decades we did fine in RWD even with out all the electronic controls. Marketing of the need of FWD in the 80's and ingrained the lie and today many still believe heart and soul.

    The automakers can remove a lot of weight with a FWD transaxle and it makes for more room in a smaller car too. This is what they are interested in not winter traction.

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    Maybe the Corvette and CTS will move to front wheel drive since it doesn't matter. CTS can share the Malibu platform, think of the cost savings!

    I erased what I wrote...because I aint wasting no more time on this kinda shyte...

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    Snowbelt is a non-issue, every BMW and Mercedes sedan or coupe is available with all wheel drive.  I don't see where this proliferation of FWD thought the Mercedes lineup will come from either.  That is the hopes and dreams of Cadillac fans because Cadillac has the XTS, ELR, XT5, and coming XT3, maybe and XT1, etc all front drive.   And they don't have rear drive crossovers or a V-series crossover, while there are AMG, M, SRT, Audi S-models, hi-performance Porsche crossovers, soon to be Jaguar, Maserati and Bentley crossovers.

     

    So when all the others have performance crossovers, Cadillac won't be able to do one.  And you might think it doesn't matter then why did Cadillac race to make a CTS-V after the BMW M5 set the standard.  So how does the XT5 compete with the X5 M or GLE63?  They can't put a 600 hp V8 in an XT5 because it is on the wrong platform with wrong wheel drive.

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    It's the rest of the lineup needs help. With the exception of the Escalade ESV being up a smidgen, the SRX was the only Cadillac to post any resemblance to meaningful gains for August 2015.

    ATS was down 12.66 percent to 2,449 units

    CTS was down 33.26 percent to 1,730 units

    ELR was down 77 percent to 45 units

    Escalade was down 22.27 percent to 1,770 units and Escalade ESV was up 4.22 percent to 1,310 units

    SRX was up 51.88 percent to 6,903 units

    XTS was down 48.59 percent to 1,531 units.

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      Power will come from a 4.0L V8 biturbo engine that will be offered in two states of tune - the highest one offering 600-plus horsepower. A performance-oriented version of Mercedes' 4Matic all-wheel drive will come standard. There is also talk about adding integrated starter generator (ISG) that would add a brief boost of power along with improving fuel economy.
      A 3.0L turbocharged V6 is possibly in the cards as well.
      Source: Autocar

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