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    Ford Pauses Mustang Production Amid Sales Slump


    • Ford idles Mustang production for a week

    The Ford Mustang has been riding a wave of sales success, beating the Camaro in the total sales for the year - 87,258 vs. 54,535. But this past month, the Mustang saw a steep decline in sales (32 percent) and was beaten by the Camaro. Because of this, Ford has put Mustang production on idle for a week.

    The Detroit News reports that Ford has idled their Flat Rock, MI plant for a week. Ford Spokeswoman Kelli Felker said this was to match production with demand. At the end of September, the supply of Mustangs stood at 89 days. Analysts say a 60 day supply is a healthy target - something the Mustang is somewhat close to.

    But why did the Mustang see a steep drop in sales? The answer might lie in incentives. In September, Ford was offering $2,700 in incentives for the Mustang - down $300 when compared to August. Meanwhile, incentives on the Camaro tripled from $1,100 in August to just over $3,300 in September. It should be noted that Chevrolet has a glut of Camaros. At the end of September, dealers were sitting on a 120-day supply in Camaros. 

    Update: As some our members have pointed out, the more likely cause to this Ford's reduction in fleet sales.

    "Fleet sales of 42,120 vehicles, including daily rental, commercial and government segments, were down 21 percent, consistent with the company’s plan to front-load fleet sales this year. Sales to daily rental companies declined 36 percent for the month," Ford said in their September sales press release.

    Source: The Detroit News

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    I love the new Pony cars, but still remember the very early 1970's when their 1960's counter parts filled the roads. Personally, I want something more modern for my next sporty car-BRZ/FRS/ Fiata/Miata, something along those lines. Maybe a nice used S2000.

    Would perhaps consider a Focus ST but the chassis tuning on the GTI is infinitely better with the MK VII (current) GTI.

    I for one won't be buying a Camaro or Mustang, even though i am very happy both are still in production.  Watching them race at Mid Ohio is fun also....

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    Triple the incentives will help out.. 120 days is still a decent supply of 2016's while the 2017's are out.

    Who would have guessed the more expensive of the two needs more of an incentive on the hood to sell?

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    The cheaper car had much higher incentives than the Camaro (3x according to the article) all year prior to September to help boost its sales (on top of much higher fleet sales than the Camaro). What does that say about the cheaper car?

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    Smart move to stop production for a week. It'll help get inline with demand.

    Or go the other route and keep pumping them out and adding to the  days supply like another company seems inclined to be doing.

     

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    While it isn't a good thing that sales are down for the month. It is good that they're taking measures to reduce costs while sales are down. I'm curious what their supply of Mustang's is in comparison to that 120 days of Camaros in stock.

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    15 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    While it isn't a good thing that sales are down for the month. It is good that they're taking measures to reduce costs while sales are down. I'm curious what their supply of Mustang's is in comparison to that 120 days of Camaros in stock.

    As of the end of September, 89 day supply.

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    1 hour ago, FordCosworth said:

    Smart move to stop production for a week. It'll help get inline with demand.

    Or go the other route and keep pumping them out and adding to the  days supply like another company seems inclined to be doing.

     

    Not everyone chooses to keep their supply low by sending 30% of their cars to the rental market. This goes right in line with the reduction in fleet for September covered on the Ford September sales thread. 

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    5 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Not everyone chooses to keep their supply low by sending 30% of their cars to the rental market. This goes right in line with the reduction in fleet for September covered on the Ford September sales thread. 

    Care to offer a retort to the facts @FordCosworth? Here's a sample of what I'm talking about.

     

    "Retail sales declined 4 percent in September, with 162,327 vehicles sold for the month. Fleet sales of 42,120 vehicles, including daily rental, commercial and government segments, were down 21 percent, consistent with the company’s plan to front-load fleet sales this year. Sales to daily rental companies declined 36 percent for the month."

     

     

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    4 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Not everyone chooses to keep their supply low by sending 30% of their cars to the rental market. This goes right in line with the reduction in fleet for September covered on the Ford September sales thread. 

    And not everyone chooses to keep day supply high by adding more and more.

    Ford is choosing to lower day supply by stopping production for a week.

     

     

     

     

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    It's pretty obvious now that the profits model for the Mustang was stretched to its limit, and has been for quite some time. 

    If upping your incentive spending by only 600 bucks over your competition for 30 days is enough to get them to say "uncle" on production then it's clear excellence of execution was the better way to go. 

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    3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Triple the incentives will help out.. 120 days is still a decent supply of 2016's while the 2017's are out.

    Who would have guessed the more expensive of the two needs more of an incentive on the hood to sell?

    Bloomberg reports incentives on the Camaro were also stronger for September, more than tripling to an average discount of $3,409 per car. Incentives for the Mustang averaged $2,602

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    Just now, FordCosworth said:

    Bloomberg reports incentives on the Camaro were also stronger for September, more than tripling to an average discount of $3,409 per car. Incentives for the Mustang averaged $2,602

    Yeah.. That was in the original post.. kind of.

    A guy's son on another site I'm on bought a 1SS for 28k. 10k of sticker, one hell of a deal. I might be a mustang guy a heart but if I could get a Camaro at that price I would scoop it up in a heart beat.

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    The Mustang's sales decline can be attributed to Ford's massive fleet reduction last month, Check it out.

     

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    Also covered here is the fact that up until September, the Mustangs incentives were almost $2K higher than the Camaro. 

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    Right now Chevy is running 20% ! reduction on select Camaros.

    Dealer near me has 2016 Camaro 2SS that has MSRP of $45,445.00 selling for $36,356.00

    They have around me similar promos on V6 and turbo models as well.

     

    Ford has only $750 back on 2016 Mustangs

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    1 hour ago, ykX said:

    Right now Chevy is running 20% ! reduction on select Camaros.

    Dealer near me has 2016 Camaro 2SS that has MSRP of $45,445.00 selling for $36,356.00

    They have around me similar promos on V6 and turbo models as well.

     

    Ford has only $750 back on 2016 Mustangs

    For some reason the automotive market seems to have gotten rather difficult in the last few mo0nths, not a good sign for the economy at large.

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      BMW - Up 0.3% (22,558 Vehicles Sold This Month, 40,667 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Buick - Down 9.4% (16,131 Vehicles Sold This Month, 29,248 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Cadillac - Down 8.6% (10,823 Vehicles Sold This Month, 21,121 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Chevrolet - Up 3.4% (164,095 Vehicles Sold This Month, 299,265 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Chrysler - Down 28% (16,730 Vehicles Sold This Month, 30,107 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Dodge - Down 7% (43,878 Vehicles Sold This Month, 83,987 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Fiat - Down 19% (2,145 Vehicles Sold This Month, 4,309 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Ford - Down 4.5% (199,696 Vehicles Sold This Month, 363,523 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Genesis - 
      GMC - Up 17.2% (46,339 Vehicles Sold This Month, 83,663 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Honda - Up 4.3% (110,822 Vehicles Sold This Month, 208,000 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Hyundai - 
      Infiniti - Up 32.5% (13,737 Vehicles Sold This Month, 25,295 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Jaguar - Up 130.4% (3,484 Vehicles Sold This Month, 6,423 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Jeep - Down 15% (62,345 Vehicles Sold This Month, 120,760 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Kia - Down 14.2% (42,673 Vehicles Sold This Month, 78,299 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Land Rover - Down 10.4% (5,747 Vehicles Sold This Month, 11,910 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Lexus - Down 20.6% (18,338 Vehicles Sold This Month, 33.910 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Lincoln - Up 8.8% (8,744 Vehicles Sold This Month, 17,529 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Maserati - Up 49% (1,087 Vehicles Sold This Month, 26,942 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mazda - Up 5.9% (22,824 Vehicles Sold This Month, 44,522 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz - Up 6.9% (24,522 Vehicles Sold This Month, 50,049 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Up 10.8% (2,513 Vehicles Sold This Month, 4,562 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      MINI - Down 24.1% (2,154 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,264 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mitsubishi - Up 38.8% (10,924 Vehicles Sold This Month, 17,381 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Nissan - Up 1.2% (122,003 Vehicles Sold This Month, 222,764 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Porsche - Up 2.1% (3,637 Vehicles Sold This Month, 8,239 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Ram Trucks - Up 4% (42,785 Vehicles Sold This Month, 80,830 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Smart - Down 17.5% (348 Vehicles Sold This Month, 672 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Subaru - Up 8.3% (45,500 Vehicles Sold This Month, 89,379 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Toyota - Up 5.4% (156,001 Vehicles Sold This Month, 283,447 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Volkswagen - Up 12.65% (25,145 Vehicles Sold This Month, 48,655 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Volvo - Down 11.6% (4,651 Vehicles Sold This Month, 8,123 Vehicles Sold This Year)

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    • By William Maley
      Maserati North America, Inc. - Up 49% (1,087 Vehicles Sold This Month, 26,942 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mitsubishi Motors North America - Up 38.8% (10,924 Vehicles Sold This Month, 17,381 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Audi of America - Up 17.3% (9,102 Vehicles Sold This Month, 26,942 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Jaguar Land Rover North America - Up 16.4% (9,231 Vehicles Sold This Month, 18,333 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Volkswagen of America - Up 12.65% (25,145 Vehicles Sold This Month, 48,655 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Subaru of America, Inc. - Up 8.3% (45,500 Vehicles Sold This Month, 89,379 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz USA - Up 6.8% (27,383 Vehicles Sold This Month, 55,283 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mazda North American Operations - Up 5.9% (22,824 Vehicles Sold This Month, 44,522 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      General Motors Co. - Up 4.2% (237,388 Vehicles Sold This Month, 433,297 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Nissan North America - Up 3.7% (135,740 Vehicles Sold This Month, 248,059 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      American Honda Motor Co. - Up 2.3% (121,686 Vehicles Sold This Month, 228,066 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Porsche Cars North America, Inc. - Up 2.1% (3,637 Vehicles Sold This Month, 8,239 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      BMW Group U.S. - Down 2.5% (208,440 Vehicles Sold This Month, 381,052 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Ford Motor Company - Down 4% (208,440 Vehicles Sold This Month, 381,052 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Toyota Motor North America - Down 7.2% (174,339 Vehicles Sold This Month, 317,387 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      FCA US LLC - Down 10% (168,326 Vehicles Sold This Month, 320,544 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Volvo Cars of North America, LLC - Down 11.6% (4,651 Vehicles Sold This Month, 8,123 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Kia Motors America - Down 14.2% (42,673 Vehicles Sold This Month, 78,299 Vehicles Sold This Year)

      Hyundai Motor America - 

      Brands:
      Acura - Down 14.9% (10,864 Vehicles Sold This Month, 20,066 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Alfa Romeo - Up 843% (443 Vehicles Sold This Month, 551 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Audi - Up 17.3% (9,102 Vehicles Sold This Month, 26,942 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      BMW - Up 0.3% (22,558 Vehicles Sold This Month, 40,667 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Buick - Down 9.4% (16,131 Vehicles Sold This Month, 29,248 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Cadillac - Down 8.6% (10,823 Vehicles Sold This Month, 21,121 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Chevrolet - Up 3.4% (164,095 Vehicles Sold This Month, 299,265 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Chrysler - Down 28% (16,730 Vehicles Sold This Month, 30,107 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Dodge - Down 7% (43,878 Vehicles Sold This Month, 83,987 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Fiat - Down 19% (2,145 Vehicles Sold This Month, 4,309 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Ford - Down 4.5% (199,696 Vehicles Sold This Month, 363,523 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Genesis - 
      GMC - Up 17.2% (46,339 Vehicles Sold This Month, 83,663 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Honda - Up 4.3% (110,822 Vehicles Sold This Month, 208,000 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Hyundai - 
      Infiniti - Up 32.5% (13,737 Vehicles Sold This Month, 25,295 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Jaguar - Up 130.4% (3,484 Vehicles Sold This Month, 6,423 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Jeep - Down 15% (62,345 Vehicles Sold This Month, 120,760 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Kia - Down 14.2% (42,673 Vehicles Sold This Month, 78,299 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Land Rover - Down 10.4% (5,747 Vehicles Sold This Month, 11,910 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Lexus - Down 20.6% (18,338 Vehicles Sold This Month, 33.910 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Lincoln - Up 8.8% (8,744 Vehicles Sold This Month, 17,529 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Maserati - Up 49% (1,087 Vehicles Sold This Month, 26,942 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mazda - Up 5.9% (22,824 Vehicles Sold This Month, 44,522 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz - Up 6.9% (24,522 Vehicles Sold This Month, 50,049 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Up 10.8% (2,513 Vehicles Sold This Month, 4,562 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      MINI - Down 24.1% (2,154 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,264 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Mitsubishi - Up 38.8% (10,924 Vehicles Sold This Month, 17,381 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Nissan - Up 1.2% (122,003 Vehicles Sold This Month, 222,764 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Porsche - Up 2.1% (3,637 Vehicles Sold This Month, 8,239 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Ram Trucks - Up 4% (42,785 Vehicles Sold This Month, 80,830 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Smart - Down 17.5% (348 Vehicles Sold This Month, 672 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Subaru - Up 8.3% (45,500 Vehicles Sold This Month, 89,379 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Toyota - Up 5.4% (156,001 Vehicles Sold This Month, 283,447 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Volkswagen - Up 12.65% (25,145 Vehicles Sold This Month, 48,655 Vehicles Sold This Year)
      Volvo - Down 11.6% (4,651 Vehicles Sold This Month, 8,123 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    • By William Maley
      February Brings More Sales Records for American Honda
      American Honda continues record pace in February for total vehicle and truck sales Honda CR-V raises the bar again, breaking February record with a 26.3 percent jump Honda HR-V also nets a February record, gaining 28.6 percent Acura RDX has its best-ever February, rising 6.1 percent as it continues to pace division TORRANCE, Calif., March 1, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- American Honda Motor Co., Inc. today reported total February sales of 121,686 Honda and Acura vehicles, an increase of 2.3 percent over February 2016 and a new record for the month. American Honda trucks also set a February record, rising 12.2 percent on sales of 63,989. Total Honda Division sales as well as Honda truck sales also set new February marks, with total Honda Division sales gaining 4.3 percent on sales of 110,822 and trucks up 15.3 percent on sales of 56,419 units. Acura Division sales were down 14.9 percent, with 10,864 vehicles sold in February.
      Honda
      The Honda Division continued its record sales streak into the second month of the year, gaining 4.3 percent on sales of 110.882 units to set a new February benchmark. CR-V and HR-V repeated strong January performances, driving Honda trucks to a February record as well. The Fit also gained in February while Civic and Accord held their own in a market tilting toward trucks.
      Honda trucks set a new benchmark in February, gaining 15.3 percent on sales of 56,419. CR-V and HR-V drove truck sales, both setting new February marks; CR-V sales were up 26.3 percent on sales of 31,898, and HR-V up 28.6 percent with 6,354 units sold. Accord and Civic continue to swim against the tide, with sales cresting 23,000 and 27,000 units, respectively. "The new CR-V is exceeding our own expectations with production and deliveries now fully up to speed," said Jeff Conrad, senior vice president and general manager of the Honda Division. "It's clearly hitting a sweet spot in the market and complemented by HR-V at the entry level."
      Acura
      Acura sales continued recent trends, with the RDX enjoying its best-ever February. NSX also remained steady, showing no signs of the winter doldrums that can affect ultra-performance cars. And after a strong first outing at Daytona in January, the NSX GT3 racecar goes to the legendary 12 Hours of Sebring in search of endurance racing glory later this month. 
      Acura's popular RDX set a new February record, gaining 6.1 percent on sales of 4,029 vehicles. Continuing a steady production and sales pace, 46 NSX supercars were sold in February.   American Honda Vehicle Sales for February 2017
            Month-to-Date
      Year-to-Date
            February
      2017
      February
      2016
      DSR** %
      Change
      MoM %
      Change
      February
      2017
      February
      2016
      DSR** %
      Change
      YoY %
      Change
          American Honda Total
      121,686
      118,985
      2.3%
      2.3%
      228,066
      219,482
      3.9%
      3.9%
          Total Car Sales
      57,697
      61,950
      -6.9%
      -6.9%
      106,264
      116,332
      -8.7%
      -8.7%
          Total Truck Sales
      63,989
      57,035
      12.2%
      12.2%
      121,802
      103,150
      18.1%
      18.1%
            Honda Total Car Sales
      54,403
      57,267
      -5.0%
      -5.0%
      100,244
      108,079
      -7.2%
      -7.2%
            Honda Total Truck Sales
      56,419
      48,945
      15.3%
      15.3%
      107,756
      88,380
      21.9%
      21.9%
              Acura Total Car Sales
      3,294
      4,683
      -29.7%
      -29.7%
      6,020
      8,253
      -27.1%
      -27.1%
              Acura Total Truck Sales
      7,570
      8,090
      -6.4%
      -6.4%
      14,046
      14,770
      -4.9%
      -4.9%
          Total Domestic Car Sales
      46,581
      58,489
      -20.4%
      -20.4%
      85,936
      109,939
      -21.8%
      -21.8%
            Honda Division
      43,390
      53,909
      -19.5%
      -19.5%
      80,099
      101,887
      -21.4%
      -21.4%
            Acura Division
      3,191
      4,580
      -30.3%
      -30.3%
      5,837
      8,052
      -27.5%
      -27.5%
          Total Domestic Truck Sales
      63,989
      57,035
      12.2%
      12.2%
      121,802
      103,150
      18.1%
      18.1%
            Honda Division
      56,419
      48,945
      15.3%
      15.3%
      107,756
      88,380
      21.9%
      21.9%
            Acura Division
      7,570
      8,090
      -6.4%
      -6.4%
      14,046
      14,770
      -4.9%
      -4.9%
          Total Import Car Sales
      11,116
      3,461
      221.2%
      221.2%
      20,328
      6,393
      218.0%
      218.0%
            Honda Division
      11,013
      3,358
      228.0%
      228.0%
      20,145
      6,192
      225.3%
      225.3%
            Acura Division
      103
      103
      0.0%
      0.0%
      183
      201
      -9.0%
      -9.0%
          Total Import Truck Sales
      0
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
      0
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
            Honda Division
      0
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
      0
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
            Acura Division
      0
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
      0
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
           MODEL BREAKOUT BY DIVISION
                    Honda Division Total
      110,822
      106,212
      4.3%
      4.3%
      208,000
      196,459
      5.9%
      5.9%
            * ACCORD
      23,455
      25,785
      -9.0%
      -9.0%
      42,991
      46,550
      -7.6%
      -7.6%
            * CIVIC
      27,039
      27,707
      -2.4%
      -2.4%
      50,134
      54,448
      -7.9%
      -7.9%
            CLARITY FCV
      27
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
      69
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
            CR-Z
      118
      128
      -7.8%
      -7.8%
      207
      320
      -35.3%
      -35.3%
            * FIT
      3,764
      3,647
      3.2%
      3.2%
      6,842
      6,742
      1.5%
      1.5%
            INSIGHT
      0
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
      1
      19
      -94.7%
      -94.7%
                                      CROSSTOUR
      3
      190
      -98.4%
      -98.4%
      3
      456
      -99.3%
      -99.3%
            * CR-V
      31,898
      25,250
      26.3%
      26.3%
      61,185
      44,458
      37.6%
      37.6%
            HR-V
      6,354
      4,940
      28.6%
      28.6%
      12,043
      9,117
      32.1%
      32.1%
            ODYSSEY
      6,800
      8,994
      -24.4%
      -24.4%
      13,300
      16,215
      -18.0%
      -18.0%
            PILOT
      8,099
      9,572
      -15.4%
      -15.4%
      15,279
      18,133
      -15.7%
      -15.7%
            RIDGELINE
      3,265
      -1
      -326,600.0%
      -326,600.0%
      5,946
      1
      594,500.0%
      594,500.0%
                                      ***    Memo: Accord FHEV
      1,867
      68
      2,645.6%
      2,645.6%
      3,578
      139
      2,474.1%
      2,474.1%
                    Memo: Civic Hybrid
      8
      143
      -94.4%
      -94.4%
      24
      304
      -92.1%
      -92.1%
          Acura Division Total
      10,864
      12,773
      -14.9%
      -14.9%
      20,066
      23,023
      -12.8%
      -12.8%
            ILX
      739
      1,500
      -50.7%
      -50.7%
      1,432
      2,733
      -47.6%
      -47.6%
            NSX
      46
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
      96
      0
      0.0%
      0.0%
            RLX / RL
      103
      103
      0.0%
      0.0%
      183
      201
      -9.0%
      -9.0%
            TLX
      2,406
      3,080
      -21.9%
      -21.9%
      4,309
      5,319
      -19.0%
      -19.0%
                                      MDX
      3,541
      4,292
      -17.5%
      -17.5%
      6,815
      7,868
      -13.4%
      -13.4%
            RDX
      4,029
      3,798
      6.1%
      6.1%
      7,231
      6,902
      4.8%
      4.8%
                                      ***   Memo: RLX Hybrid
      27
      12
      125.0%
      125.0%
      38
      30
      26.7%
      26.7%
          Selling Days
      24
      24
          48
      48
                **** Hybrid
      2,066
      351
      488.6%
      488.6%
      3,944
      812
      385.7%
      385.7%
                *    Honda and Acura vehicles are made of domestic & global sourced parts
          **   Daily Selling Rate
          ***  Memo line items are included in the respective model total
          **** Hybrid includes FHEV, PHEV, CR-Z, Civic Hybrid, Insight, ILX Hybrid, RLX Hybrid, RLX Sport Hybrid, MDX Sport Hybrid and NSX
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