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    GM Recalls 1.4 Million Older Vehicles To Fix Fire Issue For the Fourth Time


    • For the fourth time, GM is calling back older vehicles with the 3.8L V6 for fires


    General Motors has ordered a recall on 1.4 million older vehicles equipped with the 3.8L V6 for a fire risk again. The affected vehicles include,

    • 1997 - 2004 Buick Regal
    • 2000 - 2004 Chevrolet Impala
    • 1998 - 1999 Chevrolet Lumina
    • 1998 - 2004 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
    • 1998 - 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue
    • 1997 - 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix


    The problem deals with valve covers that degrade and can leak oil. The leaking oil can fall onto the exhaust manifold under hard braking and catch fire. Now the Detroit News reports this is the fourth time that GM recalled vehicles with this problem since 2008. GM says the previous recalls haven't worked because of the "aging and wear to the valve cover and valve cover gasket".

     

    Now the bad news is that GM hasn't figured out a fix for this problem. But in the meantime, they are contacting owners about this problem.

     

    Source: The Detroit News, General Motors

     

    Press Release is on Page 2


     

    General Motors is recalling 1,283,340 older sedans and coupes in the U.S. from the 1997 to 2004 model years because drops of oil may be deposited on the hot exhaust manifold through hard braking, which can cause engine compartment fires. GM is working on a remedy. The company is aware of post-repair fires in some vehicles but no crashes or fatalities. There have been 19 reported minor injuries over the last six years. These vehicles with 3.8-liter V6 3800 engines are affected: 1997-2004 Pontiac Grand Prix, 2000-2004 Chevrolet Impala, 1998-1999 Chevrolet Lumina and 1998-2004 Chevrolet Monte Carlo, 1998-1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue and 1997-2004 Buick Regal. Including Canada, Mexico and exports, the total population is 1,411,332.General Motors is recalling 1,283,340 older sedans and coupes in the U.S. from the 1997 to 2004 model years because drops of oil may be deposited on the hot exhaust manifold through hard braking, which can cause engine compartment fires. GM is working on a remedy. The company is aware of post-repair fires in some vehicles but no crashes or fatalities. There have been 19 reported minor injuries over the last six years. These vehicles with 3.8-liter V6 3800 engines are affected: 1997-2004 Pontiac Grand Prix, 2000-2004 Chevrolet Impala, 1998-1999 Chevrolet Lumina and 1998-2004 Chevrolet Monte Carlo, 1998-1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue and 1997-2004 Buick Regal. Including Canada, Mexico and exports, the total population is 1,411,332.

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    This is the legacy of old GM cutting corners. I am sure they will have a fix soon. But sad to see this especially when there is clear superior products to fix this.

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    Why are they being so proactive on this?  Could it be that so many of these good old GM cars are still in daily use, especially out of the rust belt region of the country?

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    Why are they being so proactive on this?  Could it be that so many of these good old GM cars are still in daily use, especially out of the rust belt region of the country?

    Since there's been over 1300 fires since last recall, one can say GM is not being proactive at all.

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    Why are they being so proactive on this?  Could it be that so many of these good old GM cars are still in daily use, especially out of the rust belt region of the country?

    Since there's been over 1300 fires since last recall, one can say GM is not being proactive at all.

     

    It's not different than the almost twenty years of Ford cruise control issues, some issued more than four times for certain models. GM is going beyond the need considering a big chunk of these models are almost 20 years old. 

     

    http://www.lieffcabraser.com/Personal-Injury/Car-Accidents/Ford-Cruise-Control-Switch-Fires.shtml

     

    http://www.autosafety.org/ford-cruise-control-deactivation-switch-recalls-and-history

     

    Point being "pro-active" is a relative term in this case.

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    Why are they being so proactive on this?  Could it be that so many of these good old GM cars are still in daily use, especially out of the rust belt region of the country?

    Since there's been over 1300 fires since last recall, one can say GM is not being proactive at all.

     

    It's not different than the almost twenty years of Ford cruise control issues, some issued more than four times for certain models. GM is going beyond the need considering a big chunk of these models are almost 20 years old. 

     

    http://www.lieffcabraser.com/Personal-Injury/Car-Accidents/Ford-Cruise-Control-Switch-Fires.shtml

     

    http://www.autosafety.org/ford-cruise-control-deactivation-switch-recalls-and-history

     

     

     

    Wrong thread. This has NOTHING to do with Ford. 

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    Why are they being so proactive on this? Could it be that so many of these good old GM cars are still in daily use, especially out of the rust belt region of the country?

    Since there's been over 1300 fires since last recall, one can say GM is not being proactive at all.

    It's not different than the almost twenty years of Ford cruise control issues, some issued more than four times for certain models. GM is going beyond the need considering a big chunk of these models are almost 20 years old.

    http://www.lieffcabraser.com/Personal-Injury/Car-Accidents/Ford-Cruise-Control-Switch-Fires.shtml

    http://www.autosafety.org/ford-cruise-control-deactivation-switch-recalls-and-history

    Wrong thread. This has NOTHING to do with Ford.

    Correct thread because it was made to illustrate the relative nature of the term "pro active" and how competing companies handle repeat issues. Edited by surreal1272
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    Why are they being so proactive on this? Could it be that so many of these good old GM cars are still in daily use, especially out of the rust belt region of the country?

    Since there's been over 1300 fires since last recall, one can say GM is not being proactive at all.
    It's not different than the almost twenty years of Ford cruise control issues, some issued more than four times for certain models. GM is going beyond the need considering a big chunk of these models are almost 20 years old. http://www.lieffcabraser.com/Personal-Injury/Car-Accidents/Ford-Cruise-Control-Switch-Fires.shtmlhttp://www.autosafety.org/ford-cruise-control-deactivation-switch-recalls-and-history

    Wrong thread. This has NOTHING to do with Ford.

    Correct thread because it was made to illustrate the relative nature of the term "pro active" and how competing companies handle repeat issues.

    Wrong thread. This is a GM Recall. Nothing to do with Ford.

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    What bothers me is that the prior fixes didn't work... so I want to know what will be different this time.

    Yeah it's a mess that seems to be due to some old school incompetence on the part of some long gone idiots. Hopefully a true fix will happen this time.

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    Though I have no information to back this up, my suspicion is that they just did a gasket job with the same part numbers and called it a day. 

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    Though I have no information to back this up, my suspicion is that they just did a gasket job with the same part numbers and called it a day.

    Probably. GM has made some of the worst gaskets over the years. My wife's old 3.4L Grand Am had gasket issues.

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    More than half these cars are in the junkyard already....not going to be much of a recall....

     

    When a recall occurs, it will be associated with the vehicle identification numbers (VINs) of all affected registered vehicles.

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    More than half these cars are in the junkyard already....not going to be much of a recall....

     

    When a recall occurs, it will be associated with the vehicle identification numbers (VINs) of all affected registered vehicles.

     

    True.....

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    Meanwhile, the aftermarket community had already been able to address ANY issue with the 3.8L V6 Series II engine;

    http://www.wbodystore.com/gaskets-hardware.html

    I just hope that there are no attempts by plaintiff lawyers to try and file any class-action lawsuits over 

     

     

    I had several GM products with the infamous 3.8L valve cover leak.  GM made them out of composite for years and many millions made, knowing from day one that they leaked due to warping.  The problem was clearly the material.   Did GM ever bother to switch the material / design?  Heck no.  To this day customers still have to deal with it, because so many are still in customers driveways.  I have two myself, both leaking on my driveway.

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