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    Honda Has A Lower-Cost Civic Type R in the Cards

      NHTSA Paperwork Strikes Again!

    The only way you can purchase a Honda Civic Type R is the fully loaded Touring trim with adaptive dampers, navigation, LED headlights, etc. Possibly, you might have to pay a 'market adjustment' price - i.e. a dealer adding a few grand to the price to make a quick buck. But 2018 could see Honda introduce a base version of the Type R.

    The Truth About Cars uncovered NHTSA certification papers filed by American Honda for the 2018 model year. The papers reveal two Civic Type R models, 'Type R' and 'Touring'. Both models have the same engine code - K20C1 which corresponds to the turbocharged 2.0L four-cylinder. 

    As we reported back in June, Honda is considering adding more Civic Type R variants to "broaden the audience and keep sales fresh." One way to that is to introduce a lower-cost model. Honda already sells one in other markets that lose out on the navigation system, parking sensors, and LED lighting.

    Source: The Truth About Cars

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    55 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Considering they sold most of what they built for ten grand over sticker, not sure why they want to make this move.

    Honda is infuriatingly irrational.

    Because then they can sell more of them to people who can't afford the original

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    9 hours ago, daves87rs said:

    Not so sure about that one.....just offer different options on the current one instead of all this other stuff....

    That will not happen. Honda likes to keep it simple when it comes to vehicle configurations. 

     

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    3 hours ago, Frisky Dingo said:

    Sounds like a proper Type R. Let's lop off all those ungainly body protrusions while we're at it. Then we might be talking.

    If you lopped everything ugly off of that thing you would be left with a wooden tooth pick.

    6 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Because then they can sell more of them to people who can't afford the original

    But when they re introduce this next year they will build 3000 copies and sell them for ten grand over.  If they mess with the exclusivity their fanboi base is going to be pissed.

    6 hours ago, William Maley said:

    That will not happen. Honda likes to keep it simple when it comes to vehicle configurations. 

     

    Given the styling on the latest Accord, walking and chewing bubble gum is complex for them.  But yes, they love to keep it simple.

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    15 hours ago, William Maley said:

    That will not happen. Honda likes to keep it simple when it comes to vehicle configurations. 

     

    Now that is true as well....

    Would be nice if they shook things up a bit though....

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    1 hour ago, balthazar said:

    Looked up S2000 production figures and was surprised (110K worldwide). I hardly saw them when new and they seem to have already disappeared in the years since.

    In it's own way a sublime automobile but very expensive for what it was...like 35 grand in 1002, equivalent of maybe 50 grand plus now.

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    6 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Looked up S2000 production figures and was surprised (110K worldwide). I hardly saw them when new and they seem to have already disappeared in the years since.

    They're garage/trailer Queens these days. Nice examples are being preserved. Rough ones are being raced.

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    4 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    They're garage/trailer Queens these days. Nice examples are being preserved. Rough ones are being raced.

    This is so true, 3 of my coworkers have them and 1 only drives it on sunny warm days. The other two have them on trailers as they race them only.

    Not a car I have ever been impressed with.

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    A guy across the street a couple houses down from me has a gray S2000...I've seen it out a few times over the summer on weekends, but he mostly drives a late model F150.  There is a bright yellow one a couple streets over parked outside that's been sitting there since I moved in, doesn't look like it's driven much. 

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