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    Going Down The Next Generation Mercedes-Benz S-Class Rabbit Hole


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    Mercedes-Benz’s S-Class is the world’s best-selling luxury sedan for very good reasons; it’s unmatched in safety, drivetrain, and infotainment techology. However, the S-Class is under siege with Audi, BMW, Jaguar, and even Hyundai release their new flagship sedans to take the crown. With those cars in the hunt, Mercedes knows the next S-Class has to be the best. Autocar has learned some new information about the next S-Class due out sometime in late 2012.

    The next S-Class will use a version of Mercedes’ modular rear-wheel drive architecture, which is currently used on the current E-Class. The S-Class will also use more aluminum in the body panels and suspension for weight savings.

    Design of the S-Class will depart from the “gothic” styling towards a “contemporary appearance.” In other words, think the Mercedes CLS and F800 Concept had a child with a bolder grille, more defined lines, and a roofline with more pronounced curvature. Inside, Mercedes will incorporate more natural materials and a new multi-media screen.

    Mercedes will offer five different bodies for the S-Class: SWB sedan, two LWB sedans including a extra long Pullman sedan, coupe (replacing CL), and convertible.

    Powertrains for the S-Class will include a group of gas, diesels, and hybrid models. The transmission will be a new nine-speed automatic, an evolution of the current seven-speed auto.

    Source: Autocar

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    Wait- using the e-class platform under a car starting $41 thousand dollars HIGHer? OHNOZ!!! L-A-M-E !! :rofl:

    No, no! It's a 'modular' platform! Totally different!!

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    s-class continues to get more & more mediocre each generation. There's truly nothing there dynamically / stylistically to justify the huge cost disadvantage, and the $15 grand dealers have to knock off the tag to move them is pretty illustrative of this.

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    Gothic, huh? Hmmm ... now that you mention it, I can see that face holding a pitchfork and wearing bibbed overalls.

    sorry, i tried to shake a joke out there ... i'll let norm macdonald make those jokes from now on ...

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    Wow, this is a lot better-looking than the last decade of Benz...reminds me of that sturdy, vault-like presence the 90s S-Classes exuded.

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    Interesting...I wonder if the ELWB model is a precursor to winding down Maybach.

    No, they make the Pullman now, it is basically a limo. They make an armored Pullman also that you have to special order and clear a background check to buy. But it does come with its own air supply, fire extinguishing system and can withstand 5 grenades at once.

    And y'all can hate on the S-class all you want, the new one will be awesome, just like every previous generation was awesome and with technology and power years ahead of the competition. I am excited to see what they come up with next. Magic Ride Control is going to blow away everything on the market.

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    Interesting...I wonder if the ELWB model is a precursor to winding down Maybach.

    No, they make the Pullman now, it is basically a limo. They make an armored Pullman also that you have to special order and clear a background check to buy. But it does come with its own air supply, fire extinguishing system and can withstand 5 grenades at once.

    And y'all can hate on the S-class all you want, the new one will be awesome, just like every previous generation was awesome and with technology and power years ahead of the competition. I am excited to see what they come up with next. Magic Ride Control is going to blow away everything on the market.

    I'm not amongst the haters..I like the current S-class..it's been my favorite Big Dog luxury sedan since the '80s.

    Gothic, huh? Hmmm ... now that you mention it, I can see that face holding a pitchfork and wearing bibbed overalls.

    sorry, i tried to shake a joke out there ... i'll let norm macdonald make those jokes from now on ...

    LoL..I was thinking Gothic more in the pale skin, dress in black, listen to the Cure style of Gothic...

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    E-class is a mass market RWD platform, and it's under MUCH more expensive sedans. That's not "awesome", but cost-cutting 'lameness'... which is, sir, a massive FAIL.

    Or so it's been said. :rolleyes:

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    E-class is a mass market RWD platform, and it's under MUCH more expensive sedans. That's not "awesome", but cost-cutting 'lameness'... which is, sir, a massive FAIL.

    Or so it's been said. :rolleyes:

    Hardly...a $50k+ luxury model platform is not mass market..it's not some transverse engine FWD generic used on $25k rental cars...

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    It's 'mass-market' in it's segment since mercedees sells/fleets so many vehicles. Same with BMW.

    In the metro NY area, mercedees & BMWs follow each other in packs of 3-4, they're everywhere and thus, quite commonplace & pedestrian. No exclusivity.

    We still have the "problem" of moderate-priced platforms under MUCH higher priced flagships to deal with here- that's not doing a $90+K car any perceptional favors.

    You'd think for $100K you'd "at least" get an exclusive, better, more expensive, unique platform.

    Or so it's been said.

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    It's 'mass-market' in it's segment since mercedees sells/fleets so many vehicles. Same with BMW.

    In the metro NY area, mercedees & BMWs follow each other in packs of 3-4, they're everywhere and thus, quite commonplace & pedestrian. No exclusivity.

    We still have the "problem" of moderate-priced platforms under MUCH higher priced flagships to deal with here- that's not doing a $90+K car any perceptional favors.

    You'd think for $100K you'd "at least" get an exclusive, better, more expensive, unique platform.

    Or so it's been said.

    Again, even it it's relatively high volume it's segment, it's still a superior platform to any FWD plaftorm.

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    Too bad so many buyers have no idea and totally don't care.

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    What is that solid block of black plastic in the bottom center of the grille for? Looks pretty cheap & noticeable.

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    Here's the interior of the current s-class:

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    This is NOT what I would expect of nearly $100K. Oversized plastic vents you can look right into with the same thumbwheel a $15K car has, a glued-on instrument hood with a strange double-hump design, an ugly swath of black plastic surrounding the gauges, and a pregnant swell in the center of the dash reminiscent of an older Quest minvan. OK for $30K, a complete rip-off for $90K. I know I've seen that exact same vent design on something from the mid-90s... just can't place it. And is that FOUR stalks coming off the column??

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    I see nothing wrong in that S-class interior...you ever sat in one? They are really nice...a very comfortable place.. it's a solid, well engineered car.

    Which has absolutely nothing to do with which wheels do the moving.

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    It's 'mass-market' in it's segment since mercedees sells/fleets so many vehicles. Same with BMW.

    In the metro NY area, mercedees & BMWs follow each other in packs of 3-4, they're everywhere and thus, quite commonplace & pedestrian. No exclusivity.

    We still have the "problem" of moderate-priced platforms under MUCH higher priced flagships to deal with here- that's not doing a $90+K car any perceptional favors.

    You'd think for $100K you'd "at least" get an exclusive, better, more expensive, unique platform.

    Or so it's been said.

    It said a version of the E-class platform. The wheelbase and track will be way different, and AutoCar is speculating anyway. And the "mass-market" E-class is still more expensive than any American sedan, so it isn't like they are starting with crap.

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    The base model E-class for consumer consumption is 39k Euro INCLUDING the 19% VAT. Meaning Benz only gets 33,474 euro or about 45k.

    Now, taxi models and other fleet models are even less expensive than that.

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    I just read an article that listed the most profitable vehicles in the past 20 years, the Detroit 3 pickups were the top 3, followed by the S-class. And they only listed cars sold in the USA, so I imagine this was a domestic study. Worldwide the S-class must generate huge amounts of profit. When you build the best car with the best reputation you get people to pay for it.

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