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    Mercedes-Benz To Unveil Next Gen S-Class In May


    By William Maley

    Staff Writer - CheersandGears.com

    March 7, 2013

    One vehicle that some of us thought would make its debut and didn't was the next-generation S-Class. But we now know when Mercedes-Benz is planning to show it.

    Diamler Chairman Dieter Zetsche told Autocar that the next S-Class will be shown in May in Hamburg, Germany.

    "The S-class is the most important car of all to us. Its success makes us stronger going forward," said Zetsche.

    Source: Autocar

    William Maley is a staff writer for Cheers & Gears. He can be reached at william.maley@cheersandgears.com or you can follow him on twitter at @realmudmonster.

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    The Autocar story tends to tell me they are not happy with their S car and as such have held back to start over. I think Mercedes finally sees Audi and BMW as moving in on their turf, but what is not said is that I suspect they are actually seeing Cadillac sales crunch in on their sales.

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    It will be interesting to see where they go stylistically w/ the new S class.. I've grown to like the current car, the previous one was ok, but I miss the huge grilles and heft of the W126 and W140 generations of the '80s-90s. Interesting that while Mercedes has moved towards smaller grilles, Audi and Lexus have moved towards massive grilles in recent years.

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    ^ you can bet the next s-class will be akin to the current as the '14 Silverado is to the '13.
    S-class traditionally makes geological-paced stylistic moves, when they could/should've made the CLS the S-class years ago.

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    The spy photos make it seem like the new car is very similar to the current S-class. But I like the current car's look and it keeps resale values high when they don't do radical changes. The S-class in its 7th model year is still outselling the A8, 7-series, Panamera, XJ, and LS460, those cars are in some trouble when the new one arrives.

    The options list on the new S-class is incredible, heated arm rests, HVAC system with filtration, ionization and 6 fragrances, hot stone massage package, magic ride control, magic vision control, all LED lights and the high beams that bend around oncoming cars are pretty slick too. I read the features list, the technology is unmatched. What other car can steer itself up to 120 mph? None of them.

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    6 fragrances and hot stone massage? Reminds me of what they do in Japan to produce Kobe beef.

    Well a fridge is an option, maybe in model year two there will be a hamburger press and grill option.

    I am actually disappointed on one thing though, it looks like the 7-speed transmission will carry over, I thought the 9-speed would be ready at launch. I guess time will tell. I also wish the convertible was a 4-door, that would be epic, but a 2-door is better than none at all.

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    6 fragrances and hot stone massage? Reminds me of what they do in Japan to produce Kobe beef.

    Well a fridge is an option, maybe in model year two there will be a hamburger press and grill option.

    I'd be happy w/ an in-dash coffee maker and bagel toaster.

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    6 fragrances and hot stone massage? Reminds me of what they do in Japan to produce Kobe beef.

    Well a fridge is an option, maybe in model year two there will be a hamburger press and grill option.

    I'd be happy w/ an in-dash coffee maker and bagel toaster.

    Maybe on the Pullman model.

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    6 fragrances and hot stone massage? Reminds me of what they do in Japan to produce Kobe beef.

    Well a fridge is an option, maybe in model year two there will be a hamburger press and grill option.

    I am actually disappointed on one thing though, it looks like the 7-speed transmission will carry over, I thought the 9-speed would be ready at launch. I guess time will tell. I also wish the convertible was a 4-door, that would be epic, but a 2-door is better than none at all.

    I think I'll wait until the MCE. Holding out for either a hibachi or a smoker.

    RE: the transmissions, I read that they finally paired the 7-speed to the V12, so they may want to get some mileage out of that. Question though... ever wonder why Mercedes and Infiniti have skipped the even number of gears though? They've both used 5, and then when everyone went to 6, those two companies went to 7.

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    6 fragrances and hot stone massage? Reminds me of what they do in Japan to produce Kobe beef.

    Well a fridge is an option, maybe in model year two there will be a hamburger press and grill option.

    I am actually disappointed on one thing though, it looks like the 7-speed transmission will carry over, I thought the 9-speed would be ready at launch. I guess time will tell. I also wish the convertible was a 4-door, that would be epic, but a 2-door is better than none at all.

    I think I'll wait until the MCE. Holding out for either a hibachi or a smoker.

    RE: the transmissions, I read that they finally paired the 7-speed to the V12, so they may want to get some mileage out of that. Question though... ever wonder why Mercedes and Infiniti have skipped the even number of gears though? They've both used 5, and then when everyone went to 6, those two companies went to 7.

    7 > 6. Like 9 > 8.

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    Granted, Moltie, but because of the odd numbers they've been behind Lexus since the last LS. Meanwhile, Lexus, Audi, and BMW are on par with one another.

    For what it's worth, anyway. I have a feeling that anything past 8 will be overkill, both in the Dart and in the S-Class.

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    Granted, Moltie, but because of the odd numbers they've been behind Lexus since the last LS. Meanwhile, Lexus, Audi, and BMW are on par with one another.

    For what it's worth, anyway. I have a feeling that anything past 8 will be overkill, both in the Dart and in the S-Class.

    I suspect MB could care less what Lexus does, since Lexus is just a Toyota and primarily a US phenomenon.

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    Granted, Moltie, but because of the odd numbers they've been behind Lexus since the last LS. Meanwhile, Lexus, Audi, and BMW are on par with one another.

    For what it's worth, anyway. I have a feeling that anything past 8 will be overkill, both in the Dart and in the S-Class.

    I suspect MB could care less what Lexus does, since Lexus is just a Toyota and primarily a US phenomenon.

    True that. The Lexus LS mostly only sells here, and at a $30,000 discount to the S-class. If a base V8 LS460 was $95,000 sales of that car would drop off a cliff. Lexus is no threat in Europe or most parts of Asia to Mercedes and Mercedes beats them in the USA.

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    >>"True that. The Lexus LS mostly only sells here, and at a $30,000 discount to the S-class."<<

    Average transaction prices are much closer than that.

    S400 is averaging 85K ($8K under MSRP), base LS460 is averaging $71K (4K under MSRP). That's a 14K difference, not 30.

    S550 AWD is averaging 90K, LS460L AWD is averaging $81K, a difference of 9K.

    S-class is heavily discounted.

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    The new S-class should push the price gap. But if you look at China, the LS460 sells at 68% of what the S500 sells for. Lexus sold 43,000 cars in Europe in 2011, but 17,000 of those were the CT200h. First half of 2012, Lexus sold 23,000 cars in Europe. Mercedes sells about 550,00 cars a year in Europe, I don't think Lexus is too much of a threat.

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    Let's not forget that MB fleets rather heavily in the home continent. But even still, I agree that Lexus won't be taking any sales crowns there anytime soon.

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    I don't see mercedes pushing the s-class sticker up when they have to knock so much off already. Market has spoken- it's way overpriced.
    They need to hold the line on prices until inflation/time & the market catch up to the sticker- probably at least 3 years.

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    I don't see mercedes pushing the s-class sticker up when they have to knock so much off already. Market has spoken- it's way overpriced.

    They need to hold the line on prices until inflation/time & the market catch up to the sticker- probably at least 3 years.

    S-class has been the #1 selling big luxury car in the world for a long time. Since 1951, 3.5 million S-classes have been sold, more than any other high end luxury car. So yes, the market has spoken for 60 years and 3.5 million vehicles. The base car probably won't change in price, but the convertible could be $150k, the Pullman over $200k, that is how they go up market, without losing the current demographic.

    The S-class has dominated this segment probably more than any other car has dominated a segment, with the 3-series being the next closest. Audi and BMW are at least in the game, Lexus has spent billions on a car that can't compete globally, and Acura, Lincoln, Cadillac and Infiniti haven't even tried. How many cars dominate the segment so much that Ford, GM, Honda and Nissan won't even make a run at it.

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    s-class wasn't a "high-end" lux car until the 1990s. 'Mid' is closer to the truth. But the problem is, the heavy reliance on fleet sales & heavy discounts. MB needs to address this.
    Charge closer to sticker prices and eliminate fleet sales and the s-class drops to a fraction of its volume. They can't do that.

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    s-class wasn't a "high-end" lux car until the 1990s. 'Mid' is closer to the truth. But the problem is, the heavy reliance on fleet sales & heavy discounts. MB needs to address this.

    Charge closer to sticker prices and eliminate fleet sales and the s-class drops to a fraction of its volume. They can't do that.

    +1

    A friend of mine has an '83 S-class... it's no more luxurious than my Toronado and in some areas the build quality of my car is much better (no visible screw heads in the dashboard or on most exterior lighting. The 3.8 liter V8 is no match for even the wheezy 307 and the diesel engine in the Benz made the Olds 350 diesel look like a V-series Cadillac.

    Is the 1983 380SEL a nice car? Sure.... but GM was still doing better interiors at one of their lowest points in history than Benz was doing at the same time, so the value of spending all that extra money for a Benz over even a Buick or Oldsmobile isn't all that clear to me.

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    How many $100,000 sedans did Cadillac sell last year? Or Lincoln or Acura or Infiniti? The S-class is king, let's see any of those 4 brands put a V12 sedan on sale or enter this class and sell 60-80,000 cars a year. Hyundai has actually gotten closer than those 4 have. S-class sets the standard, brings the technological breakthroughs and I look forward to seeing the new one.

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    I'd definitely take an '80s Mercedes over a similar vintage Buick or Oldsmobile any day. I find it funny that those cars are even mentioned in the same sentence.

    Back then, S-classes were built like tanks and are still desirable even today. The W220 (2000-2006), by comparison, is a POS.

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    mercedes sold 11,794 S-class in the U.S. in calendar year 2012. That's down from 2011 and a bit off the 2006 peak of 30,866. Clearly, the market is still speaking.

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      The Coupe comes standard with a central 12.3-inch high-resolution COMAND® display. Another optionally available 12.3-inch widescreen instrument cluster– unique in this segment – is merged under a single lens to produce a widescreen cockpit that appears to float in space. The key design element emphasizes the width, as does the fascia-spanning trim. Positioned in the driver's direct field of vision, the digital instrument cluster shows virtual instruments, which can be selected by the driver in three different styles, "Classic," "Sport" and "Progressive," depending on which information and views the driver desires.
      A decidedly sporty note is set by the air vents, the form of which is heavily influenced by the look of a turbine engine. They are styled down to the smallest detail and finished in silver shadow.
      Touch Control Buttons on the steering wheel enable the driver to control the instrument cluster and multimedia system using finger swipes without having to take their hands off of the steering wheel. Additional controls come in the form of a touchpad and controller in the center console, which can also recognize handwriting, plus the voice control system. There are also direct-access buttons for controlling the air conditioning, for example, and for convenient activation and deactivation of certain driver assistance systems.
      The highly luxurious seats in the Coupe take their cue from the sedan. A wealth of extremely high-grade design details bear witness to the high standards required of a sporty luxury coupe.
      High-grade materials and contemporary colors come together to create a sporty, contemporary luxury look. Especially for the E-Class Coupe, there is a choice of two new innovative, light wood trim packages in natural grain and high-gloss finishes. Precisely executed seams emphasize the seat design of each equipment line. The impressive range of exterior paint finishes is harmoniously matched to the contemporary interior color scheme.
      The interior lighting makes exclusive use of durable, energy-saving LED technology in the standard enhanced ambient lighting with 64 color options to choose from.
      Diversity to suit every taste
      The standard equipment on the base E400 Coupe is abundantly configured. Additionally, the optionally available Sport Package adds edgier detail to such features as front and rear bumpers as well as side skirts and larger AMG-style wheels. The blocks in the diamond-block grille are chrome-tipped, and the interior boasts such features as an AMG leather sports steering wheel.
      Larger and more luxurious
      With a length of 190 inches, a width of 73.2 inches (without mirrors) and a height of 56.3 inches, the new E-Class Coupe clearly outstrips its predecessor in terms of length, width and height.
      Exterior dimensions
       
      E-Class Sedan
      E-Class Coupe
      Predecessor Coupe
      Difference
      Vehicle length (in)
      193.8
      190.0
      185.2
      +4.8
      Vehicle width (in)
      72.9
      73.2
      70.3
      +2.9
      Vehicle height (in)
      57.8
      56.3
      55.0
      +1.3
      Wheelbase (in)
      115.7
      113.1
      108.7
      +4.4
      The significantly larger footprint compared with the previous model is also to the benefit of passengers with extra spaciousness and comfort. They profit especially in terms of rear legroom, front and rear shoulder room as well as rear headroom. In each of the four fully fledged seats with coupe-specific individual seat character, the driver and passengers enjoy genuine comfort on long journeys as well as the classic virtues of a grand tourer.
      Performance with high-tech
      A powerful and efficient 3.0L V6 biturbo engine, equipped with ECO Start/Stop, provides lively performance and great fun behind the wheel.
      The U.S. E-Class Coupe model line-up at a glance:
       
      E400 Coupe
      E400 4MATIC Coupe
      Number of cylinders/ arrangement
      V6
      V6
      Displacement (cc)
      2,996
      2,996
      Rated output (hp @ rpm)
      329 @ 5,250 – 6,000
      329 @ 5,250 – 6,000
      Rated torque (lb-ft @ rpm)
      354 @ 3,500 – 5,250
      354 @ 3,500 – 5,250
      Acceleration 0-60 mph (sec)
      5.2
      5.5
      Top speed (mph)
      130*
      130*
      *Electronically limited
      Both the E400 and E400 4MATIC Coupes are equipped as standard with the 9G- TRONIC nine-speed automatic transmission, which allows fast gearshifts along with lower engine speeds. This has a particularly beneficial effect on efficiency and noise.
      Suspension – sporty comfort
      The suspension on the new E-Class Coupe offers agile driving pleasure on winding roads together with exceptional ride comfort. The Coupe features a standard lowered suspension with selective damping.
      AIR BODY CONTROL suspension
      Alternatively, the new E-Class Coupe can be equipped with multi-chamber air suspension, including all-round roll/pitch/heave stabilization. Advantages of this system: three chambers of different sizes in the spring struts of the rear axle and two in the spring struts of the front axle make it possible to control the hardness of the suspension in three stages. In this way, the occupants enjoy a soft basic suspension, along with the secure feeling of good handling stability at higher speeds.
      The multi-chamber air suspension is augmented by a continuous, electronically controlled adaptive damping system. The damping at each individual wheel is adjusted fully automatically to suit the current driving situation and condition of the road – such as in the case of evasive maneuvers or on rough tracks. The system therefore delivers good ride comfort along with excellent driving dynamics.
      DYNAMIC SELECT – choose your own driving characteristics
      The standard DYNAMIC SELECT system not only makes it possible to select the suspension characteristics in combination with AIR BODY CONTROL, but it also enables the driver to influence other vehicle settings – such as throttle response, ECO Start/Stop function, transmission shift points and more. DYNAMIC SELECT provides the following transmission modes: “Comfort,” “ECO,” “Sport,” “Sport +” and “Individual.” The "Individual" mode allows the driver to configure their own preferred transmission modes.
      Full smartphone integration
      A new era of connectivity and digitalization is marked by the multimedia system in the E-Class Coupe with standard COMAND Navigation. This includes effortless integration of the smartphone into the vehicle's infotainment system by means of wireless pairing and wireless charging, eliminating the need to find a plug and connect a cable.
      Apple CarPlayTM and Android Auto
      If the vehicle is equipped with COMAND Navigation, it is possible to use Apple's CarPlay as well as Google's Android Auto. If a compatible smartphone is connected by USB, the customer can, if desired, switch to the CarPlay or Android Auto interface.
      mbrace Concierge: personalized attention
      A further comfort highlight is the Concierge Service, which is available on all carlines for customers with mbrace Connect and mbrace Secure. For participating customers, the range of services includes a host of personalized assistance options: from making a restaurant reservation to obtaining tips about tourist routes, information on cultural and sporting events and bookings through to sending navigation destinations directly to the vehicle.
      Access is straightforward - registered mbrace subscribers can call up the Concierge Service either via the iCall button in the vehicle or on the Mercedes me app. The personal assistant takes care of everything else.
      E-Class innovations on board
      As a member of the current E-Class family, the new Coupe is significantly more intelligent than its predecessor. It comes with many of the optional driver assistance features of the E-Class Sedan, the most intelligent sedan ever. Active Brake Assist comes as standard and is able to warn the driver of an imminent collision, provide optimum support with emergency braking and, if necessary, can also autonomously apply the brakes. In addition to slower-moving, stopping or stationary vehicles, it can also detect pedestrians crossing in the danger zone ahead of the vehicle.
      Other highlights include DRIVE PILOT: this system represents Mercedes-Benz's next step along the road to semi-autonomous driving. With Distance Pilot DISTRONIC®, it is not only able to keep the car at the correct distance behind vehicles in front on all types of road, but, for the first time, it can also automatically follow them at a speed of up to 130 mph.
      The E-Class Coupe is also optionally available with other intelligent technical systems, including:
      High-resolution LED Intelligent Light System. These headlamps, each with 72 individually activated high-performance LEDs, automatically activate and deactivate the high beams and illuminate curves. MAGIC VISION CONTROL® (standard on the E400 4MATIC Coupe) - an intelligent and highly efficient wash/wipe system for the windscreen. The wiper blade always delivers washer fluid directly in front of the wiping edge, via the water feed line integrated into the blade – and it does this in both wiping directions. The result is that there is no surge of water when fluid is sprayed, which can impair the driver's vision, and at the same time the maximum cleaning effect is achieved. The complete MAGIC VISION CONTROL system, including the wiper blades, is heated at low temperatures to prevent snow or ice from sticking in winter.
      E-Class Coupe with tradition
      As an exclusive and sporty coupe, the latest member of the E-Class family can look back on an almost fifty-year history. Its first ancestor was unveiled by Mercedes- Benz in 1968 (at that time known as the "Stroke Eight" coupe). Further model series followed – for a while also under the name CLK. Each generation combined superb design with agile sportiness and contemporary luxury at a high level.
      The all-new model year 2018 E-Class Coupe will have its World Premiere at the 2017 North American International Auto Show in Detroit in January, and will go on sale in the U.S. in summer 2017.
    • By William Maley
      Toyota and Subaru have been quiet on whether or not there would be a second-generation to the 86/BRZ coupe. But Toyota has broken the silence, telling Autocar there would be a second-generation model.
      “The GT86 will carry on. The car serves a big purpose. We are not getting out of that business. Sporty cars go through their phases. It’s our intention to continue with that car,” said Toyota Europe boss Karl Schlicht.
      Like the current model, it is expected that Toyota and Subaru will once again team up on developing the next-generation model. Schlicht did admit that there is no firm confirmation of Subaru coming back to this partnership. 
      “Will it be with Subaru? I don’t know. But for the concept to carry on, with the low engine, we’d have to do that. There are a lot of reasons to continue with Subaru.”
      Autocar says the next-generation 86 could arrive in late 2018 or 2019.
      Source: Autocar

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