Jump to content
Create New...
  • 💬 Join the Conversation

    CnG Logo SQ 2023 RedBlue FavIcon300w.png
    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has been the go-to hub for automotive enthusiasts. Join today to access our vibrant forums, upload your vehicle to the Garage, and connect with fellow gearheads around the world.

     

  • William Maley
    William Maley

    There Will Not Be A Successor to the Volkswagen Beetle

      "two or three generations is enough now"

    Rumors about the demise of the Volkswagen Beetle have been flying around for the past few years, but we finally have confirmation that it is ending.

    Volkswagen's R&D boss, Frank Welsch tells Autocar that there will not be a replacement for the Beetle. Welsch said "two or three generations is enough now" for the model and that the upcoming I.D. Buzz will take the place of the Beetle. No timeframe was given as to when Beetle production would end.

    The news isn't so shocking when you take a look at the Beetle's sales numbers which have been in freefall since 2013,

    • 2013: 43,134
    • 2014: 29,182
    • 2015: 22,667
    • 2016: 15,667
    • 2017: 15,166

    It should be mentioned that Volkswagen brand boss Herbert Diess hinted back in October that the Beetle could go full electric, but we're not holding our breath on that.

    Source: Autocar

    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments

    A terrible decision.  And it is laughable at best that the stupid I.D. Buzz will take the place of anything beloved at Volkswagen.  I guarantee you it will sell even less than the Beetle currently musters.  The drop in Beetle sales is mostly VW's fault, as they've stripped the car of interesting powertrains... automatic only... no TDi... high-powered turbos are by order only, last time I checked.  Dune... no manual in the Dune?  Preposterous and self-defeating.  VW people love manual transmissions.

     

    VW better save their money because this wholesale push toward electrification is going to fall flat as a pancake.  Even flatter than the classic Beetle's pancake 4.  No one has proved to me that people will buy electric vehicles in any kind of sustainable numbers without taxpayer prop-ups.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    15 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    A terrible decision.  And it is laughable at best that the stupid I.D. Buzz will take the place of anything beloved at Volkswagen.  I guarantee you it will sell even less than the Beetle currently musters.  The drop in Beetle sales is mostly VW's fault, as they've stripped the car of interesting powertrains... automatic only... no TDi... high-powered turbos are by order only, last time I checked.  Dune... no manual in the Dune?  Preposterous and self-defeating.  VW people love manual transmissions.

     

    VW better save their money because this wholesale push toward electrification is going to fall flat as a pancake.  Even flatter than the classic Beetle's pancake 4.  No one has proved to me that people will buy electric vehicles in any kind of sustainable numbers without taxpayer prop-ups.

    And you continue to FEAR that CHANGE is inevitable. Buyers are NOT Buying Manuals, Buyers are not buying Bugs, Personal Choice of lifestyle has made CUV the king now, fact supported by Sales Numbers.

    Yes everything is probably paid for so that they could continue to produce their small number of bugs, but then the assembly line is needed to produce other items that have bigger desire by the public.

    As Drew stated, Choice is what will finally have EVs take off and that is coming. Lucky for you your job will still be around due to idiots crashing their EV's no different than ICE auto's. Repairs must be made.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Beetle, even last year, outsold the vast majority of PHEV/EV models. There are hybrid/electrics selling in the SINGLE DIGITS monthly right now. Not every vehicle business case has to work if the parent company is solidly profitable. I'm in no way a potential customer, but JEERS to VW if they Pull the Plug on the Bug.

    • Like 1
    • Thanks 1
    • Haha 1
    • Agree 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    14 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Beetle, even last year, outsold the vast majority of PHEV/EV models. There are hybrid/electrics selling in the SINGLE DIGITS monthly right now. Not every vehicle business case has to work if the parent company is solidly profitable. I'm in no way a potential customer, but JEERS to VW if they Pull the Plug on the Bug.

    Great tag on the end!!!

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Sales have dropped because it's not as fresh, and they have culled the models of interest to male buyers and enthusiasts.

    The writing was on the wall for the car for some time, but it's still sad to see. In the grand scheme of things, its sales really weren't all that bad. Killing off the car and name entirely is a mistake.

    • Thanks 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    12 minutes ago, Frisky Dingo said:

    Sales have dropped because it's not as fresh, and they have culled the models of interest to male buyers and enthusiasts.

    The writing was on the wall for the car for some time, but it's still sad to see. In the grand scheme of things, its sales really weren't all that bad. Killing off the car and name entirely is a mistake.

    But as we have already seen, this is not a death for ever of the bug and they clearly can bring it back when there is more demand, but at this point the bulk of society that wants a bug has a bug and the larger more profitable market has moved onto CUV's and clearly a demand for the VW Bus again or aka ID Buzz.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    It's kind of sad because it's probably one of the(if not THE) most iconic branded vehicles out there. Everybody and their brother knows what a VW Beetle is. I don't see if going away forever though. Maybe a little vacation to brew up some more demand then plop it down on the next Golf platform again, whenever that is. 

    • Thanks 1
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    It's kind of sad because it's probably one of the(if not THE) most iconic branded vehicles out there. Everybody and their brother knows what a VW Beetle is. I don't see if going away forever though. Maybe a little vacation to brew up some more demand then plop it down on the next Golf platform again, whenever that is. 

    But it must be powered by an ICE or else it will be a toy, just like all the rest of the EVs.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    18 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    But it must be powered by an ICE or else it will be a toy, just like all the rest of the EVs.

    Ehhhh I don't think it HAS to be ICE powered and depending on how long of a break VW is taking from it will be more telling if it will come back as an ICE or not. 

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    8 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Ehhhh I don't think it HAS to be ICE powered and depending on how long of a break VW is taking from it will be more telling if it will come back as an ICE or not. 

    Maybe both? 8)

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites



    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Support Real Automotive Journalism

    Cheers and Gears Logo

    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has delivered real content and honest opinions — not emotionless AI output or manufacturer-filtered fluff.

    If you value independent voices and authentic reviews, consider subscribing. Plans start at just $2.25/month, and paid members enjoy an ad-light experience.*

    You can view subscription options here.

    *a very limited number of ads contain special coupon deals for our members and will show

  • Similar Content

  • Posts

    • Very cool, seems Chinese EVs are here being compared by American companies so that hopefully we do not fall too far behind. A Xiaomi EV was spotted in America, and a US maker might be behind it
    • Kia just showed off in Brussels their Global release of the EV3, EV4, and EV5 GT editions. Full details are here. Kia electrifies Brussels Motor Show with three new GT models: EV3, EV4 and EV5 | Releases | Official Media Site NEWSROOM
    • Phoque him and las vegas!!! Phoque the whole damned country that is the usa!!!  Fix your own shyte! Canadians need not be a money mine for any american tourist site or area!!! trump and many maga a&&hol3s want to make Canada an enemy and actually want to occupy Canada. Many other americans are phoquing clueless to  trump's bullshyte!!!   Phoque that!!! There are only a hair above 40 million Canadians. There are a hair below 350 million americans.  trump said and continues to say that he and the usa does not need anything Canadian.  So phoque trump and phoque the usa!!!  Let americans visit and tourist las vegas and any other american area.  desantis who says continually "who needs Canadians?" and he FALSELY claimed last December  that florida had record breaking visitors mocking Canada's boycott to florida!!! Like I said...fix your OWN shyte!!!  Let the mayor of las vegas strike up a deal and pour marketing money INTO florida begging floridians to visit las vegas.  There are a hair below 25 million a&&hol3s in florida. floridians could visit las vegas!!!  And las vegans and nevadans could return the favour and visit Disney...  In fact, all of america could visit there OWN phoquing country and do their own phoquing tourist vacations within their OWN phoquing dumb a$$ country!!! Canada and Canadians NEED to stay the PHOQUE away from shytty usa!!!  Get killed by an ice agent?  Phoque off!!! Get accosted by a border agent???  Phoque off!!! Get robbed by a desperate down and out american loser because he voted for trump and trump phoqued him?  Phoque off!!!  But you know what the REAL sad news is about this whole shyte???!!!   https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/southern-alberta-mustangs-collision-9.7071643   Rest in Peace 3 Southern Alberta Mustang junior hockey players died in a car crash yesterday afternoon. 2 were from British Columbia and the other boy from Birmingham Alabama.  ALABAMA... The kid was from Alabama playing hockey. In CANADA!!!  And the reverse happens quite often. Kids from Flin Flon Manitoba, play in the States in hockey with US scholarships...   Kids from Boston come to Montreal  and play for McGill or Concordia and Montreal kids play for Boston College...  Its quite sad that trump has made us enemies...   Its even sadder that some americans have accepted it!!!   
    • I find it funny that the Mayor and other politicians are begging Canadians to return to Vegas, but Mexico has won out, so I do not see them returning and the amount of visitors to Vegas has dropped to levels from 2000 to 2003. Billions lost and deserved based on the stupidity of the U.S. Canadian airlines are abandoning Las Vegas at levels not seen since 2006
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • My Clubs

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.

Hey there, we noticed you're using an ad-blocker. We're a small site that is supported by ads or subscriptions. We rely on these to pay for server costs and vehicle reviews.  Please consider whitelisting us in your ad-blocker, or if you really like what you see, you can pick up one of our subscriptions for just $1.75 a month or $15 a year. It may not seem like a lot, but it goes a long way to help support real, honest content, that isn't generated by an AI bot.

See you out there.

Drew
Editor-in-Chief

Write what you are looking for and press enter or click the search icon to begin your search