The ALLTrack I really like, but like Chevrolet, VW marketing is pathetic and I think they lost sales by not marketing it as a activity wagon. Course did it ever get here to the US as I have never seen one here.

17 minutes ago, dfelt said:

The ALLTrack I really like, but like Chevrolet, VW marketing is pathetic and I think they lost sales by not marketing it as a activity wagon. Course did it ever get here to the US as I have never seen one here.

I saw a couple at my neighborhood VW dealer in Phoenix back in 2017...sat in one.   Seemed like a neat wagon.

27 minutes ago, dfelt said:

The ALLTrack I really like, but like Chevrolet, VW marketing is pathetic and I think they lost sales by not marketing it as a activity wagon. Course did it ever get here to the US as I have never seen one here.

They looked cool, but they should have really pushed it harder against the Outback. 

Too bad FCA hasn't made an Outback-ish wagon....would love to see the Eagle name return for an AWD LX-based wagon, with Hellcat option of course. 

43 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Too bad FCA hasn't made an Outback-ish wagon....would love to see the Eagle name return for an AWD LX-based wagon, with Hellcat option of course. 

What brand would you put it under? Jeep?

4 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

What brand would you put it under? Jeep?

Yes.   Though maybe a differently styled Magnum version for Dodge also.   I think a second gen Magnum wagon w/ Charger styling would have been nice. 

..if they were smart they'd have a Dodge version as more of a street and cheaper version, Jeep as a 1 inch lift and market it as an off-road version, and Chrysler as a luxury version(luxury level of Lincoln/Acura/Lexus/Infinity). 

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

..if they were smart they'd have a Dodge version as more of a street and cheaper version, Jeep as a 1 inch lift and market it as an off-road version, and Chrysler as a luxury version(luxury level of Lincoln/Acura/Lexus/Infinity). 

Of course, with Jeep they could do luxury also with a Jeep Eagle Summit.   Have a Trailhawk and Trackhawk versions  (differentiated from  Dodge Magnum SRT, which would be more street and performance).    For the Jeep version I'm thinking something conceptually ala the Volvo V90 CC or Audi Allroad.       (I love the idea of a Jeep Eagle sport wagon). 

Trackhawk is definitely a street performance vehicle(have you seen the wheels and tires on the JGC Trackhawk???). It would be identical to a Dodge SRT. I would leave that performance trim for Dodge and Chrysler, imo. 

12 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Trackhawk is definitely a street performance vehicle(have you seen the wheels and tires on the JGC Trackhawk???). It would be identical to a Dodge SRT. I would leave that performance trim for Dodge and Chrysler, imo. 

More performance versions are always a good thing.  Performance might be identical to a Dodge SRT, but different styling--I'd have the Dodge look like a Charger sport wagon.  That's what I like about Jeep GC variations....they've got luxury, off-road and performance trims in the mix.  Chrysler is a dead brand I'm afraid.     

1 minute ago, Robert Hall said:

More performance versions are always a good thing.  Performance might be identical to a Dodge SRT, but different styling--I'd have the Dodge look like a Charger sport wagon.  That's what I like about Jeep GC variations....they've got luxury, off-road and performance trims in the mix.  Chrysler is a dead brand I'm afraid.     

Chrysler being dead is so frustrating because they had the perfect brand to fight the "2nd tier" luxury brands head-on. All they really needed to do was make a luxurious interior and add some fancy adjustable dampers and it would ride like it's on clouds. 

Just now, ccap41 said:

Chrysler being dead is so frustrating because they had the perfect brand to fight the "2nd tier" luxury brands head-on. All they really needed to do was make a luxurious interior and add some fancy adjustable dampers and it would ride like it's on clouds. 

Yeah, it seems stuck as the minivan brand right now...and they have the Italian filler brands above it in the way (Alfa and Maserati). 

The Euro brands should be split off from the American brands. Only the American brands make any sort of money these days.

40 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Yeah, it seems stuck as the minivan brand right now...and they have the Italian filler brands above it in the way (Alfa and Maserati). 

Kill the pathetic Alfa and Maserati and pour the profits back into Chrysler as a mid tier luxury brand to go against Buick and Acura.

Chances are that VW is simply not going to sell these variants here because the USA is all about that SUV/CUV.  They could probably still sell their successors in Europe since SUV/CUV fever has not gotten to them yet.

5 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

Chances are that VW is simply not going to sell these variants here because the USA is all about that SUV/CUV.  They could probably still sell their successors in Europe since SUV/CUV fever has not gotten to them yet.

From the sales numbers of the last few years, seems Europe and the Asian rim is moving to CUV/SUV style of auto's also.

1 minute ago, dfelt said:

From the sales numbers of the last few years, seems Europe and the Asian rim is moving to CUV/SUV style of auto's also.

That would explain Buick's sales numbers in the last five years.

It’s too bad...seen them both in person...will do well if folks knew they were around at least....

What a shame. The Alltrack is all things considered one of my favorite new cars on the market. It is such an incredibly well-rounded car that punches above it's price tag and class. This might have to make me reevaluate my future purchase for a new family friendly DD.

VW is stupid. 

14 minutes ago, Frisky Dingo said:

What a shame. The Alltrack is all things considered one of my favorite new cars on the market. It is such an incredibly well-rounded car that punches above it's price tag and class. This might have to make me reevaluate my future purchase for a new family friendly DD.

VW is stupid. 

VW's message: buy our CUV and pay us more money for it.