Jump to content
Create New...
  • 💬 Join the Conversation

    CnG Logo SQ 2023 RedBlue FavIcon300w.png
    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has been the go-to hub for automotive enthusiasts. Join today to access our vibrant forums, upload your vehicle to the Garage, and connect with fellow gearheads around the world.

     

  • William Maley
    William Maley

    Interactive First Drive: 2013 Dodge Dart

    William Maley

    Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

    May 2, 2012

    If you have been wondering why there has been a lack of news here on Cheers & Gears for the past couple of days, I can explain why.

    Right now I'm in Austin and just finished up driving the new Dodge Dart. I will have a first drive report sometime next week, but I wanted to give some quick impressions about it.

    Compared to the Caliber, the Dart is a drastic 180 turn. The Dart's overall look has a lot of Italian influence with smooth surfaces and sexy curves. But the Dart is still a Dodge and lets you know about it. The front carries Dodge's crosshair grill. Step around the back and the back light bar from the Challenger and Charger makes an appearance.

    As for the Dart's interior, its a massive step forward with flowing lines, soft touch materials, and technologies like an optional 8-inch touchscreen. One downside is lack of legroom for back seat passengers.

    Three powertrains are available for the Dart: a 2.0L Tigershark four-cylinder, a 1.4T four-cylinder, and a 2.4L Tigershark four. At the Dart event, only the 2.0L and 1.4T were available to drive. The 2.4L four will be out later this year with the R/T.

    The 2.0L Tigershark produces 160 HP and 148 lb-ft of torque and can go through either a six-speed manual or automatic. During the drive, I found 2.0L and automatic to be a fine companion as power came smoothly, even though you had to climb above 3,000 RPMs to find it. Dodge says the Dart gets fuel economy of 25 MPG city and 36 MPG highway. During the time I had behind the wheel, I averaged about 29 MPG.

    As the 1.4T, I didn't get the chance to drive it due to the models equipped came as six-speed manuals and I can't drive a manual. A dual-clutch transmission is due out later this year and hopefully I will get the chance to check it out.

    As for the drive, the Dart is a sweetheart. The Dart's suspension tip toes the lines of sport and comfort. One moment, the Dart provides excellent handling around the twisty roads of Texas. The next, the Dart is providing a smooth and quiet ride. Steering is heavy and direct, something that is very appricated.

    I will have more thoughts on the Dart later next week. If you guys have any questions, I will do my best to answer them.


    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments

    step one: press in both brake and clutch.

    step two: turn ignition key until engine fires.

    step three: make sure you are in the correct gear.

    step four: whilst keeping your right heel on the brake, feed in the throttle with your right toes and slowly feed out the clutch pedal with your left foot.as you're doing that, release grip on the brake with left heel and slowly transfer entire left foot to gas pedal....

    step five: you've done it too fast, and that violent lurching was the clutch slipping and the engine coughing until it's passed out, and the car is once again off. start over from step one.

    seriously, though, it sounds like a sweet heart. I'm hearing some good things about it. Edmonds IL did a review of the Rallye and they were rather impressed by it.

    Edited by Turbojett
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    step one: press in both brake and clutch.

    step two: turn ignition key until engine fires.

    step three: make sure you are in the correct gear.

    step four: whilst keeping your right heel on the brake, feed in the throttle with your right toes and slowly feed out the clutch pedal with your left foot.as you're doing that, release grip on the brake with left heel and slowly transfer entire left foot to gas pedal....

    step five: you've done it too fast, and that violent lurching was the clutch slipping and the engine coughing until it's passed out, and the car is once again off. start over from step one.

    seriously, though, it sounds like a sweet heart. I'm hearing some good things about it. Edmonds IL did a review of the Rallye and they were rather impressed by it.

    Wow you must have learned old school with the heel on the brake while appling gas.

    In a level parking lot, release the brake and apply gas and slowly release the clutch so it slips and you get forward motion. Practice going in and out of gears as you $h! from 1st to 2nd to 3rd and back down. Get a feel for how the clutch grabs. The transition needed to get moving without killing the engine.

    Trust me, it is not that hard nor will you burn out the clutch learning to drive a manual.

    This is where I feel we need to increase the level of Drivers ed an ALL students MUST learn to drive a manual tranny.

    Mud, I like the review, looking forward to pics and hearing more about the car.

    Trust me, driving a manual is not hard, it is just time behind the wheel getting a feel for the transition of shifting. My 98 Dodge Dakota has 250K miles, survived 2 kids and a wife learning to drive and my original clutch finally went out at 157k miles. So I know you can learn with out burn! ;)

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I burnt out the clutch in my Mustang GT at about 60k miles...must have been too much hooning around that i did as a teenager when it was new. Never had problems w/ the one in my M3 or the non-performance manual cars & SUV I've had.

    About the Dart...listened to the latest Autoblog podcast yesterday, they had a very positive review of it... so what is the on-sale date?

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    step one: press in both brake and clutch.

    step two: turn ignition key until engine fires.

    step three: make sure you are in the correct gear.

    step four: whilst keeping your right heel on the brake, feed in the throttle with your right toes and slowly feed out the clutch pedal with your left foot.as you're doing that, release grip on the brake with left heel and slowly transfer entire left foot to gas pedal....

    step five: you've done it too fast, and that violent lurching was the clutch slipping and the engine coughing until it's passed out, and the car is once again off. start over from step one.

    seriously, though, it sounds like a sweet heart. I'm hearing some good things about it. Edmonds IL did a review of the Rallye and they were rather impressed by it.

    Wow you must have learned old school with the heel on the brake while appling gas.

    In a level parking lot, release the brake and apply gas and slowly release the clutch so it slips and you get forward motion...

    I live in California though. Level ground is a luxury, especially the farther you get inland (though it's still not as bad as, say the Bay Area; SF's roads kinda scare me lol). So heel-toeing (or having feet quicker than gravity) is an invaluable skill for me. If you do live in a more level place, you won't have to worry so much about that, and you can get away with ignoring the brake without worry of rolling back or forward.

    Edited by Turbojett
    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    dart looks nice in silver.....didn't expect that......

    why do cars with such large wheelbase lack rear leg room (also see cruze)

    Not sure I would say lacks rear leg room as much as in this class they are trying to fit everyone including us tall guys (6'6") and so I have noticed the driver seats seem to go back farther than you get in bigger auto's. I think this gives the impression of smaller rear leg room.Course as a compact sedan, this does have limitation on rear leg room and over all interior room.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    About the Dart...listened to the latest Autoblog podcast yesterday, they had a very positive review of it... so what is the on-sale date?

    Next month.. R/T and the 2.4L will follow along sometime in the third quarter

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    why do cars with such large wheelbase lack rear leg room (also see cruze)

    While I haven't checked out the Cruze's rear leg room issue, it seems to me that the room under the seats has disappeared, where one would normally park their toes. In some cars, the room under the seat is so narrow, you can only fit one foot... in others, there is a big cross brace across the car. Also, it seems to me that the seat back is pushed forward, I suppose to help the ever-shrinking trunk room numbers.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    While I haven't checked out the Cruze's rear leg room issue, it seems to me that the room under the seats has disappeared, where one would normally park their toes. In some cars, the room under the seat is so narrow, you can only fit one foot... in others, there is a big cross brace across the car. Also, it seems to me that the seat back is pushed forward, I suppose to help the ever-shrinking trunk room numbers.

    My Impala's back seat legroom is largely hampered by this since you can't get your feet under the seats if you are wearing shoes. I have found even compacts (Verano) that don't suffer from this issue. I finally got around to driving one recently and also tested out the back seat. Got both feet all the way under no problem, although I have small feet for a man (American Size 9 shoe size). Nonetheless, small feet or not they don't fit under the seat in a W-Body Impala.

    Link to comment
    Share on other sites



    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Add a comment...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Support Real Automotive Journalism

    Cheers and Gears Logo

    Since 2001, Cheers & Gears has delivered real content and honest opinions — not emotionless AI output or manufacturer-filtered fluff.

    If you value independent voices and authentic reviews, consider subscribing. Plans start at just $2.25/month, and paid members enjoy an ad-light experience.*

    You can view subscription options here.

    *a very limited number of ads contain special coupon deals for our members and will show

  • Posts

    • There are things I really like about this EV Minivan like the AWD and the customizable seating features. Not sure about the big screen TV for the second and third row. Clearly the back end of the Minivan is polarizing, but they optimized it for the ability to put things in and easy take out when hauling stuff. Gotta love the 434 miles of range. Depending on Price, I think this will do very well here in the U.S. for Families and those wanting space with easy access.
    • An interesting take on the Minivan segment by Mercedes-Benz as the VLE is much like any other name of Mercedes autos with the VLE not actually standing for anything but implied by the auto company as V - Van, L - Luxury, E - Electric drive train. MPV being Multi-Purpose Vehicle and with that we introduce you to the 2027 Mercedes-Benz VLE MPV electric van. Mercedes says this blends limousine-like ride comfort with refined MPV versatility. The VLE MPV has Mercedes ALL-NEW 800V technology and high-performance charging along with their latest MB.OS or Mercedes-Benz Operating System — the same AI-powered platform debuting in the 2027 Mercedes-Benz S-Class. 10 Reasons the VLE Redefines Luxury Travel Mercedes has stated that the VLE redefines grand limousine travel with the following 10 Reasons: Innovative aesthetics that captivate: The new VLE embodies a completely new design with a low, streamlined silhouette and iconic aesthetics resulting in outstanding aerodynamics, with a drag coefficient of just 0.25. Highly flexible seating for up to eight people – manual Roll & Go or remote "seat ballet": The manually operated seats feature four integrated wheels and can be effortlessly moved back and forth, locked in any position, or easily removed and rolled into the garage. The electrically adjustable seats expand flexibility even further allowing repositioning via app and head unit, almost like choreographing a ballet (Remote Variable Rear Space). Newly developed seats – choose your style and comfort level: The new mechanical and electrical individual seats and benches can be configured in multiple different ways. The highlight of the three seat types is an electric Grand Comfort Seat with an additional pillow, wireless charging, lumbar support, massage function and calf support. Unparalleled MBUX rear space experience – turn every journey into an immersive adventure: Hidden in the headliner above the front seats is a retractable, 31.3-inch panoramic screen with 8K resolution, split-screen function and an eight-megapixel camera – perfect for enjoying a movie, music videos, and games or for joining business video conferences. Superior ride – agile and comfortable like a true premium limousine: AIRMATIC air suspension with 1.5 inches of level control makes every journey a remarkably serene experience. And with seven-degree rear-axle steering, the VLE is exceptionally agile and achieves an impressive turning circle of just 35.75 feet More than 434 miles (700 kilometers WLTP2 range) – long-distance comfort without range anxiety: On long journeys the VLE can be recharged for a range of up to 220 miles (355 kilometers WLTP) within just 15 minutes, thanks to 800-volt technology and a new battery with a usable energy content of 115 kWh. Extraordinary interior experience – Sky View panoramic roof: The impressive glass roof conveys a remarkable sense of space, freedom and tranquility. Surround ambient lighting invites the passengers to sit back and unwind. An electric sunblind protects against excessive sunlight. Top-notch digital intelligence – the VLE makes your driving experience smarter and personalized: Thanks to the AI-powered Mercedes-Benz Operating System (MB.OS), the VLE features the latest MBUX with intuitive and personal control. It also features the MBUX Virtual Assistant, which uses multi-agent generative AI and understands complex conversations with memory, responding like a friend. Over-the-air updates keep the VLE up to date for years, adding new features without the customer ever having to visit a dealer. Digital cockpit – MBUX Superscreen: Three screens behind a large glass surface: a 10.25-inch driver display, a 14-inch central display, and a 14-inch screen for the front passenger. While the driver benefits from clear, focused information, the front passenger can enjoy a personalized entertainment experience – such as video streaming, gaming or apps. Lane changing and steering made effortless – MB.DRIVE: Distance Assist DISTRONIC and MB.DRIVE ASSIST adds semi-autonomous steering on motorways and a revolutionary Lane Change Assist. Just engage the turn signal and let the grand limousine handle it from there. Key Performance and Convenience Specs With the following 10 reasons above, Mercedes also has what they believe are the numbers in other critical places to drive interest in people buying their Minivan: 4MATIC all-wheel drive with 409 HP or 305 kW HANDS-FREE sliding rear doors on both sides with fully retractable windows Three climate control systems keeping each zone comfortable be it 15 degrees below zero in north countries to 100 plus degrees in places like Dubai Customizable seating interior Google Maps AI Navigation The navigation system on the VLE is based on Google maps with the first integration of Google Cloud's New Automotive AI Agent for complete in-vehicle conversation services with Google Maps. Mercedes-Benz does not state if Android Auto or Apple Carplay will be supported or not, but with the new codeveloped Google Maps Cloud based Automotive AI Agent system, I have a feeling no. Check out the 2027 Mercedes-Benz VLE MPV photo gallery for a wide range of pictures that cover the various options on the interior to the exterior. More customizable than current Minivans on sale today. More details will be released closer to launch in the U.S. marketplace. Mercedes-Benz's electric vehicle push has come a long way since the 2020 EQC kicked off their electric dream. View full article
    • Yes.  And to think that that was done with very simple engines with four speed transaxles makes it even more impressive.  Those 3400, 3500, and 3800 V6s what have been considered somewhat complex when compared to a 231 c.i. V6 with a two barrel carburetor, and even more complex compared to a 250 c.i. L6 with a one barrel carburetor that they put into some hefty GM cars coinciding with the arrival of the catalytic converter. 
    • Tall overdrive gear and good torque at low RPM.  Even the 3800 powered Bonnevilles and LeSabres could manage 30+ mpg highway fairly effortlessly. 
    • I've gone down the rabbit hole one a couple private equities and what all they own and some of them are meeesssssyyyyyy. 
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • My Clubs

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.

Hey there, we noticed you're using an ad-blocker. We're a small site that is supported by ads or subscriptions. We rely on these to pay for server costs and vehicle reviews.  Please consider whitelisting us in your ad-blocker, or if you really like what you see, you can pick up one of our subscriptions for just $1.75 a month or $15 a year. It may not seem like a lot, but it goes a long way to help support real, honest content, that isn't generated by an AI bot.

See you out there.

Drew
Editor-in-Chief

Write what you are looking for and press enter or click the search icon to begin your search