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Is the Camaro dead?

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Didn't they say they needed to sell 160,000 a year to make a business case for it? Well I can see the Camaro selling well at first, but with gas at $4.30+ I don't exactly seeing it achieving those numbers. Maybe if gas was still at the $3.15 range... What do you guys think? Will gas prices make it go the way of the Gen 4? If Gen 5 fails, then I don't see it ever coming back. :(

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Ita the Challenger that may have only a shortlived resurection, the Camaro will do well.

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yeah plus the Camaro has a lot of fans that would buy the car even if the gas goes as high as $6. Besides they'll be offering a v6 version that am sure it would get good mpg for a RWD car.

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Besides they'll be offering a v6 version that am sure it would get good mpg for a RWD car.

Don't forget the 2.0L turbo four beneath that model. :AH-HA_wink:

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If GM does offer the four cylinder turbo on the camaro idont see the point on offering V6 Camaros I mean the 4 turbo would be making almost as much horsepower as the v6 but it'll get better mpg than the v6.

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There will be an F6 Camaro on Alpha after the Zeta model is phased out.

You might want to watch some of these proclamations you're making lately. Alpha is still years away.

You aren't a product planner for GM...

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If GM does offer the four cylinder turbo on the camaro idont see the point on offering V6 Camaros I mean the 4 turbo would be making almost as much horsepower as the v6 but it'll get better mpg than the v6.

V6 will probably be cheaper for fleets, though...(assuming Avis will get some).

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You might want to watch some of these proclamations you're making lately. Alpha is still years away.

You aren't a product planner for GM...

Certainly nothing set in stone, Chris. But there is talk. Serious talk. GM knows that a 2 ton Camaro will not be a very viable product for very long in our current environment. Alpha is the only near term architecture suitable for a sensible Camaro.

I expect a pretty short run for the 5th gen. I hope a 6th gen sees the light of day.

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Oh Im sure there is talk.

It's still several years away and way too early to try and say anything definitive.

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From the folks I hear from that are involved the Carmaro is alive and well at the present.

There are no plans for a 6th gen at this point because they have not even finished the 5ht gen so we need to give them a chance!

Secondly the Camaro was going to be pushed with a quality V6 program from the start and they have a V6 car that will get Highway MPG near 30 MPG andf over 20 MPG City while performing like a 4th Gen SS.

The present Camaro also will be sold world wide as I stated long ago and just anounced this week IT will be in left and right hand drive so this car will be a world product and also support sales.

THe simple fact is once a 6th gen program is looked at The Alpha or other new platform will take it's place. The V6 may grow a turbo as the performance line just as the Mustang GT will get a Turbo V6 in the future. Any new performance cars are going to be just as the truck in adapt or die mode. IF the Camaro is as well recieved as we hope it should live on.

But as withg anything right now this all could change quickly. The MFG are expecting change too as the slow economy is not just a Bush problem but a world problem as prices are spiking elsewhere too. With companies struggling world wide the landscape can really be aultered in 5 years.

So until you hear different from GM the Camaro is alive and well and if anything happens expect it to adapt to the market.

The bottom line right now is to stop calling it a muscle car or a pony car as it is a performance car and will be competing on a world market in the future.

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I am sure the Camaro will do extremely well for the first year. After that will depend upon the economy and gasoline prices.

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In my defense, I would not make a statement here if I did not hear it from reputable sources first. However, I deleted my post so that there would not be any off-topic deviation between myself and any other members.

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There are no plans for a 6th gen at this point because they have not even finished the 5ht gen so we need to give them a chance!

I depends on what you mean by plans.

For the first time in maybe three decades, a Camaro appropriate architecture is being developed and defined. Simultaneously, GM knows that the 5th gen needs to be replaced ASAP. Hardly ever do the planets line up like that for Camaro.

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Oh Im sure there is talk.

It's still several years away and way too early to try and say anything definitive.

Yeah, it's a ways out. 3 or 4 years at the earliest. The only definitive part is that they are talking.

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I am sure the Camaro will do extremely well for the first year. After that will depend upon the economy and gasoline prices.

I'm sure it will too. After that though......

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I fully expect a 6th gen on Alpha, the rub comes in with a V8 not likely to be offered. I guess that is one of the 5th gen's jobs, to pave the way toward acceptance of a V6 as the top powerplant with Alpha.

I don't much like that idea, but I can see the whys of it.

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I fully expect a 6th gen on Alpha, the rub comes in with a V8 not likely to be offered.

I think that part is still being debated.

Give me a tidy, 3500 lbs Z/28 ,with a 400-ish hp, 5.0L Gen V or Gen VI smallblock - and I'll be happy. You don't need supercharged, gas swilling, big motors, when you don't have 4100 pounds to move around.

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I think that part is still being debated.

Give me a tidy, 3500 lbs Z/28 ,with a 400-ish hp, 5.0L Gen V or Gen VI smallblock - and I'll be happy. You don't need supercharged, gas swilling, big motors, when you don't have 4100 pounds to move around.

I hope that's how it turns out, Charlie - but I have my doubts.

I could see a "special" run of upfit 6th gens running V8s, but as a production line product I see huge resistance to making Alpha V8 capable.

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I don't know about you guys but a Camaro that doesn't offers a V8 doesn't really sounds like a Camaro to me

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If Alpha is meant to compete with the BMW 3 series and considering the M3 has a V8, I would think Cadillac would strongly consider a very limited edition high performance V8 Alpha to compete with the M3, making a limited edition V8 Alpha Camaro possible also but probably very expensive. By 2015, most cars within the means of middle class buyers will surely be 4 cylinders, probably 2.0L or less, and by 2020 most cars will be hybrid.

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I feel the same way Crash, but things look to be heading that way.

ehasse: Bleak outlook. I don't think things will be quite that bad.

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I don't know about you guys but a Camaro that doesn't offers a V8 doesn't really sounds like a Camaro to me

Oh, I hear ya. But a 4100 pound car, doesn't much sound like a Camaro to me either.

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