Justin Bimmer

If I were to build a Computer

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I am always contemplating building a machine that will be good for games but I have no idea where to buy stuff or even how to do it. Anybody have any advice for a novice on how do build a bad ass computer? :sign0200:

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Buy the stuff at newegg. You can build a excellent gaming computer for $800 including OS. You can go even further than that though. The sky is the limit as they say.

To build one, you need teh following:

ATX Computer Case

CPU of your choice (AMD or Intel)

Motherboard that fits the CPU. There are mobos for Intel and AMD in separate categories. Make sure you have the right socket to match teh CPU you want.

Power Supply (600W and up for gaming)

Hard Drive

RAM

Video Card

CD/DVD drive

OS

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Newegg, huh...

I need to replace my PC and wanted to find a site other than TigerDirect. Must remember that.

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I think I'm going to wait till the new windows becomes standard. I am running an NVIDIA 8600 in my laptop right now and have pretty much always been an NVIDIA guy but are they the best GPU company still?

Also what is the advantage of certain types of towers?

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ATX is just a standard type of tower designed for what most components will fit to. Choosing a tower usually boils down to just preference of design (and quality). I like to go on the larger side so there's plenty of room.

I still prefer nVIDIA, they still seem, last I check, to hold the edge for performance.

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+1 for newegg. Very good prices, variety, and it's easy to get something replaced if you have an issue. Was building a new computer for my dad this december, and the mobo ended up having a problem. The replacement was approved instantly, no waiting to see if someone believed me or not. I've rarely had to get something replaced, but the two or thee times (across five or six computer builds) I have, it wasn't a problem (though it is frustrating to wait on shipping, but they are very quick to ship).

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Selecting a case can a pain in the ass, because if you go too cheap, you compromise on a lot, but if you spend like, over $200 for a case, then you're complete dorkstick. Some 'full tower' cases can end up being really huge too, but that's because graphics cards these days are the size of my friggin Dreamcast.

However, before you can even consider asking for help on building a computer, you must know the ways of the l_337n3$$. This is crucial if you go to a computer forum to ask for questions on your possible build, and beware of fanboys. :P

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Im at work so i will post more on this later.

but yeah GPU are big my 8800 ultra is 11 1/2 long

also the Green camp released the GTX 295 that beats the red camps 4870 x2 for a mere 500 but rumor has it all of the top cards are going to drop in price as much as 100 once all the older 65nm cards like the 260 and 280 are depleted. but this fall is the release of DX 11? supposedly so that means newer better stuff. but as a warning you can sped 4k on a kick ass system now and in 3 months from now it will cost about 1100 to build it. it will always be out of date. however a loop hole in my warranty through microcenter might mean an i7 for me by next week... im excited. www.microcenter.com beats newegg in CPU prices almost always and sometime by alot they might even have a store nearby normally good sales people. but the guys in white are commission guys in blue are hourly.

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Selecting a case can a pain in the ass, because if you go too cheap, you compromise on a lot, but if you spend like, over $200 for a case, then you're complete dorkstick. Some 'full tower' cases can end up being really huge too, but that's because graphics cards these days are the size of my friggin Dreamcast.

However, before you can even consider asking for help on building a computer, you must know the ways of the l_337n3$$. This is crucial if you go to a computer forum to ask for questions on your possible build, and beware of fanboys. :P

:lol:

Also a budget would be helpful too.

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Im at work so i will post more on this later.

but yeah GPU are big my 8800 ultra is 11 1/2 long

also the Green camp released the GTX 295 that beats the red camps 4870 x2 for a mere 500 but rumor has it all of the top cards are going to drop in price as much as 100 once all the older 65nm cards like the 260 and 280 are depleted. but this fall is the release of DX 11? supposedly so that means newer better stuff. but as a warning you can sped 4k on a kick ass system now and in 3 months from now it will cost about 1100 to build it. it will always be out of date. however a loop hole in my warranty through microcenter might mean an i7 for me by next week... im excited. www.microcenter.com beats newegg in CPU prices almost always and sometime by alot they might even have a store nearby normally good sales people. but the guys in white are commission guys in blue are hourly.

Yeah, your computer is pretty much outdated the moment you buy it. It's a vicous cycle. However the more you spend and the beter the parts, the longer it stays near the top. Also you can be stregic about what you buy, so it can be easy to upgrade later.

Some other things to consider. I'm an AMD person, and for Dual Core I would go AMD. However if you go Quad Core I would go with Intel, because last I checked their current lineup of quads were better than AMD's, but even more important is that Intel Quad Core CPUs seem to have better motherboard support. AMD's seem mixed. This could have changed since the last time I went "window" shopping though.

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I want to build my next desktop, but mine will be more on a "budget"

It should play most games (only the wife is a computer gamer), be fast, and be able to multitask pretty well....

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Right now, my laptop that I am using has a 5750 intel 2.0 ghz with 4 gigs of ram and a Nvidia 8600GS GPU with 512mb of gpu memory with 64 bit vista.

I am looking to build something better than this obviously. At least a quad core and the GPU needs to have at least 512 mb of gpu memory.

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I want to build my next desktop, but mine will be more on a "budget"

It should play most games (only the wife is a computer gamer), be fast, and be able to multitask pretty well....

Right now, my laptop that I am using has a 5750 intel 2.0 ghz with 4 gigs of ram and a Nvidia 8600GS GPU with 512mb of gpu memory with 64 bit vista.

I am looking to build something better than this obviously. At least a quad core and the GPU needs to have at least 512 mb of gpu memory.

Budgets?

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I think $800 like you stated earlier is a good starting point. I would also need to purchase a new monitor to go with the new computer.

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I think $800 like you stated earlier is a good starting point. I would also need to purchase a new monitor to go with the new computer.

As long as $800 doesn't include the monitor. Also you may spend more than that for Quad Core. The $800 rig I built was an AMD Dual Core. I'll looka round and get back to you. :)

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If you play around on newegg, or tigerdirect, always be sure to check out their 'combo deals' where they often pair up a Motherboard and a CPU because there can be some susbstantial savings.

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I think I'm going to wait till the new windows becomes standard.

..this will mean AM3 from AMD will be quite availible...i7 may have a mainstream replacement for Core 2's..

Both these will be good, supposedly AM3 will overclock the new phenom II's even better and beable to use ddr2 or 3, the intels will only use ddr3 but prolly accept faster ram sticks, towards 2ghz...compared to maybe 1.6 for amd...?

Graphics should be moving to DX11, and be moved to 40 nm by ...Q3 at latest, maybe?

I like newegg...they do Msrp on the newest stuff typically... usually a good deal, but might not be the best, but nice for one stop shopping stuff....

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I poked around because I'm also looking at a budget build, and came up with this for under 800 bucks.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500

Motherboard: MSI P45 Platinum

RAM: Corsair Dominator 4GB (2x2GB)

Power Supply: Corsair 750 Watt

Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 4850 (Sapphire Dual Slot)

Case: Raidmax

As for a hard drive, that depends on your storage needs, in terms of music, pron, games, etcetera. A 7200RPM from a brand like Western Digital or Seagate will be sufficient, and you can find good deals.

I'd roll with dual core because those extra cores aren't often utilized effectively by most programs today. Plus, when it comes to gaming, a faster-clocked CPU, and a powerful graphics card are what you need. By the time multiple cores are worth it, you'll need a new computer anyway.

The motherboard has also gotten rave reviews, and it'll let you Crossfire ATI cards if you wish. Two 4850's running in CF will let you up the ante, and get good framerates in resolutions at 1920x1200, which is a pretty big montor. It'll let you use an Nvidia card too, but only one.

The power supply is also a great, reliable performer, which is a big deal today, and it'll let you have some future expansion. Also, the case is a good one; I own it, and it's great to work with, although the lighting can be a little 'ricey' but at this price, you're crazy to go with something else.

If you aim to overclock now or in the future, the CPU, the Motherboard, and the RAM will let you go nuts; with a decent third party fan, you should be able to easily get that E8500 runnning at 4GHz.

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AM3 boards/chips should be out this month.... RV740 - the next midrange ATI based on 40nm should be out in march.... promising near 4830 output (good for 16x10 res's), but prolly won't need a big power supply...?

you ever state what kinda budget/ performance you have/want?

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I totally agree with Satty,

Buy a DELL. I am a hard core gamer and a software developer. I used to build my own systems, but now you can get fast quality systems cheap from the big boys. I just got an email from DELL, $399 for a Dual Core desktop with 256mb vid card, 250GB HD, 3GB Ram and a 19" Flat Panel Monitor. that is really hard to beat.

Check out their refurb systems also as at www.dell.com/outlet

Most people do not realize even miss shipped new hardware cannot be resold as new but has to be sold as refurb and as such I have dual 24" Flatpanels that each one cost me $250 dollars. So you could pay over 600 for one new one or as I did 500 for 2 with full warrenty. Awesome way to shop is at the outlet.

Enjoy.

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Check out their refurb systems also as at www.dell.com/outlet

Enjoy.

GMTA (Great Minds Think Alike)

That is a gold mine. I get all my Dells from there.

People do not realize that these precious things come with 3 year warranty at a price of almost 60% compared to the regular system. Who cares if the system has dings or scratches so as long it works fine and Dell service takes care of hardware malfunction.

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The problem with Dell is that when it comes to gaming, they can be a bitch. In quite a few cases, their hardware is proprietary, so you often have to get new shiznit through them.

Building a PC means you're not limited by any of their, or any other brand's upgrades, or components. Plus, the gaming oriented systems on their overstock can still be built for cheaper.

Oh, and Dell blows and is for t3h n00bz0rs tbh.

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The problem with Dell is that when it comes to gaming, they can be a bitch. In quite a few cases, their hardware is proprietary, so you often have to get new shiznit through them.

Building a PC means you're not limited by any of their, or any other brand's upgrades, or components. Plus, the gaming oriented systems on their overstock can still be built for cheaper.

Oh, and Dell blows and is for t3h n00bz0rs tbh.

I think you need to review dells again.

My system I got is a dual quad core with Nvidia Video card and Soundblaster 7.1 audio card on top of my Blue Ray / DVD burner so I am able to burn all 3 formats.

Yes if all you ever buy is a entry level, everything is built on the motherboard, you have limited upgrades unless you buy the full size case where you end up with 4 PCIx and 3 PCIe x8 slots and a nice PCIe x16 Video card slot and then you have full ability to upgrade and make changes over time. Best part is DELL gives you full control in the BIOS to disable the onboard components.

DELL unlike Gateway which I highly recommend people stay away from due to their grey market components use industry standard everything in their desktops and laptops.

You have choice of ATI or Nvidia video cards. standard speed or high speed SATA drives, unless you want to go server class and move into 15K Speed SCSI or Fiber drives.

Since I run a 15,000 square foot R&D test lab, I end up buying HP, IBM, DELL, Hitachi, NEC and a few others monthly to test and I have found DELL to be the easist from a server, desktop or laptop standpoint to use and support. On top of that even my basic low profile Dell desktop I use in the lap can play just fine all of my first person interaction shooter games. No problem kicking ass and taking souls from DOOM to Half Life and the rest of the crazy fun worlds we can play.

It is always a personal choice, but if you do your research, you will find that DELL is one of the best sources and especially the outlet store can give you values that cannot be beat by NewEgg or Tiger.

Good Luck.

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